Ute fans you are dillusional if you think you have any kind of national
following and depending on the success Ohio State is having they don't have much
of one either. I'm sorry but there is not a chance in the current landscape that
the Utes v Buckeyes game would be anything but something else on the television
in the shadow of the true leaders of college football in the S E C ! ! ! ! More
BCS championship than any other conference by a landslide.
While I appreciate Holmoe's drive in getting big name teams, we are essentially
LOWER than where we were 2 years ago in the MWC. Back then we could also
schedule great non-conference games in September but at least we had decent
competition the rest of the way. BYU needs to play well enough to go to and WIN
a BCS bowl like Utah, BSU, TCU and then get in a BCS conference. So
far, all we do is TALK about how deserving we are of something better...
@Cougs4Life"Sorry Vet...these aren't home and home
arrangements...here's a quote from the announcement..."***********The announcement references a format similar to the the Big Ten-ACC
challenge in basketball... which is a home and home format.But, if
you're "sure" about what Larry Scott was thinking, then that certainly
trumps the statements of the announcement.Before Utah joined the
major leagues they were relegated to accepting one and done scheduling
arrangements... you know... like BYU and Nebraska.
Sorry Vet...these aren't home and home arrangements...here's a quote from the
announcement:"Many of the details need to be worked out. But in
football, which has driven this decision just as it has with expansion in
general, Delany and Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott envisioned matchups in which
top Big Ten teams would face top Pac-12 schools in a format similar to the Big
Ten-ACC challenge in basketball."The announcement goes on to
say that the gaol is for each school in the pac10 to play A school in the
big10(12) during the preseason. I'm sure that Larry Scott probably wasn't
thinking of Utah as one of those "top PAC-12" schools he
envisioned...remember, even Colorado was invited to join before U were, and has
already been pointed out, the Utes were completely ignored when tier 1
television games were handed out last year.Utah vs. Minnesota?
Sounds about right...
Cougs4Life:If a Utah-Ohio State matchup would be played at the
Horseshoe, then that just means a Utah-Ohio State matchup at RES will be the
following season. These ARE Home-&-Home games you know.And for
what it's worth, I'm not certain that ESPN/FOX care where the game is played. A
game at the Horseshoe would draw about the same number of television viewers as
a game at RES.
@naval vet,I'll agree that a Whittingham vs. Meyer game might
possibly happen...but it will be played at the horseshoe, not in RES.
Guaranteed! My point was that the Utes may get to play some of the big programs
in the Big10(12), it just won't be at home. Kinda like BYU playing Nebraska,
just not at home in 2015.
@NightOwlAmerica"Nice to see BYU fans caring more about the
Utes schedule than the mighty WAC legacy cougars."Says the Ute
fan who jumps onto a BYU board to comment about the BYU schedule. Oh the
irony!@NavalVet"OR...the Pac-12 and the B1G decide
to put on a Whittingham vs. Meyer matchup that WOULD draw top television
ratings."If the PAC 12 put Utah's inaugural PAC 12 match-up
with USC on Versus (a.k.a. the Hunting & Fishing Channel a.k.a. MWC Lite)
and put COLORADO vs USC on ESPN2 (a.k.a the World Wide Leader in Sports), I'm
gonna take a wild guess that the PAC 12 has zero confidence that there's any
scenario where Utah would "draw top television ratings".And delicious tears? That's just weird, man...How's that high
chair treating U?Go Cougars!
Cougs4Life said:".....I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for
Ohio State, Michigan, Nebraska, Michigan State, Penn State, Wisconsen, Illinois
or Iowa to visit RES anytime soon...your brain needs oxygen way too
much."LOL!!! Why do you care? Nice to see BYU fans caring more
about the Utes schedule than the mighty WAC legacy cougars.
Cougs4Life:OR...the Pac-12 and the B1G decide to put on a
Whittingham vs. Meyer matchup that WOULD draw top television ratings. That's at least a lot more plausible than the Pac-12 and B1G going out of
their way to ensure that Utah plays the worst possible B1G teams. Just admit it...you're jealous. You're jealous that Utah will soon get annual
Home-&-Home matchups with B1G schools, whereas the Y will not. You're also
likely upset that if given a choice, Utah, Hill, and Whittingham would prefer
playing a B1G opponent over annual matchups vs. our little brother. And it's
difficult enough for you guys to schedule quality opponents without having to
accept one-offs and 2-for-1 arrangements.You're jealous, and your
tears are delicious. Ducky's too.
@Cougs4LifeExcellent points and probably spot on about which big10
teams will most likely be visiting res. Of course the road games for utah will
be at the big names so that the big names can pick up a fairly likely home win.
The day we see Michigan agree to play at 40,000 seat res instead of 110,000 seat
"Big House" is not going to come.LOL!
Remember, the Big 10(12) vs. Pac10 scheduling arrangement was designed to drive
TV ratings and $$$...nobody should pretend that Utah's involvement suddenly
"inspired" the Big 10(12) to call the Pac10 so that their best teams
could have the once in a lifetime opportunity of playing in 40,000 seat stadium
at Utah...with no one watching on television.Here is how this
scheduling arrangement is going to work out for the Utes: The top tiered teams
will be scheduled to play each other in made for tv, $$$ generating events.
Since no one will want to come to RES, the first year the Utes will be sent to
play away from home. The second year, either Indiana, Northwestern, Purdue or
Minnesota will be exiled to play at RES since there is ZERO national tv interest
in a Utah football game. In the eight years for the life of the agreement,
these are the four teams that you will see in RES.I wouldn't hold my
breath waiting for Ohio State, Michigan, Nebraska, Michigan State, Penn State,
Wisconsen, Illinois or Iowa to visit RES anytime soon...your brain needs oxygen
way too much.
All assumptions aside tath BYU is somehow less relevant and has now scheduled a
$$$ gaem with Nebraska much the way Uth tate has doen over the years, but the
logistics for BYU right now are't favorable and Holmoe isn't in a position to
talk about a number of things because of all the talk of BYU along with
Louisville likely being invited to the Big 12 as the rumor mill heats up again.
Holmoe is very limited on what he can contractually do at this point since
buying out the optimal indpenednet schedule would be more costly than exiting a
Nebraska's tune up game. It doesn't matter if you schedule these big schools if
you can't actually win the game. But kudos for the matchup.
@who am i sir"Maybe I will get to sit in RES for a bunch of Ute
losses; However, the past season only enhanced my joy as a fan. There is no
question I would rather see hopefully a competitive game against legenary
competition than to take pride in a one-sided victory over a completely
mis-matched opponent."Ahhh...the euphoria of something new. I
predict that might last another season or two, at most. The losing will set in
and it will wear you down. It will wear all of you down. Kinda like what we are
seeing at the hc. Now maybe utah football doesn't plummet to that depth of
futility, I'd be surprised if it does, but it will not be all winning seasons
and bowl games. Far from it actually. Losing will be common place and frequent,
a rose bowl trip will most likely never happen. 6-6, 5-7, 7-5 are going to be
the norm with maybe an occasional 8-4 or 9-3 which will also be offset by 4-8
and 3-9 that are sure to come.We'll see how many of you show up at
res in those seasons, I predict very few of you, just like the hc. It is a
tenuous "fan"base at best anyway with maybe 30,000 actual fans plus a
bunch of bandwagon fair weather types sprinkled in with some Mormon haters that
are just there to project their hate. Few of you will stay for the mediocrity to
come, so if you are one of those real fans, the one that is willing to watch
drubbing after drubbing, year after year, to usc, ou, and whatever big10 team
you are unlucky enough to draw any given season then I give you kudos. Enjoy it.
Can we please stop using the word "Storied" - I am sick of hearing
I don't attend home games because I live outside of Utah, but not getting a game
in LES has got to stop. If we call 99% of fooball teams and say, "In a
number of years down the road, we want to play you at your place, and we're ok
if you don't come to Provo to play." THEY WILL SAY YES!!!!
Wow...of the 40 (now 41) posts here on a BYU article, about a BYU football game,
where a team has scheduled to play BYU in 2015, 15 of them were from
"Ute" fans.That's 38%.That's obsession.
That's also really sad, yet humorous at the same time.I thought Utah
was supposed to have left BYU in the dust now that U're in the PAC 12. With the
'big boys'. And a new rival in Colorado. At least, that's what Ute fans were
telling us all summer.Oh the hypocrisy from the hill! U got invited
to the 'big boys' table and got stuck in the high chair, lost to your 'new'
rival to end your chance at a conference title, and find yourselves where U've
been all this time...Yipping at the heels of your big brother :)Keep those comments (and the validation) coming, Ute fans!Go
@DuckHunter"Well it sounds like you'll maybe get to sit in res for a
bunch of ute losses." You are absolutely right! Maybe I will get to sit
in RES for a bunch of Ute losses; However, the past season only enhanced my joy
as a fan. There is no question I would rather see hopefully a competitive game
against legenary competition than to take pride in a one-sided victory over a
completely mis-matched opponent.@InSstichesThis is
spooky. Are you stalking me? How did you know my age? I'm sorry if I tried to
turn the conversation to my team. However the article only mentioned Nebraska
scheduling the Y. It failed to mention the same announcement also identified
Flordia Atlantic, Souther Alabama, and Idaho State were scheduled to play
Nebraska. Now that's fast company.
Truth Machine:"Playing teams like Nebraska in storied Memorial
Stadium in Lincoln, Nebraska is what college football is all about. Only fans of
a johnny-come-lately program with no history couldn't appreciate the
experience."Johnny-come-lately? All because you've got a date
at Memorial Stadium? Guess where the Utes played on Sept. 5, 1992? Or Sept.
16, 1989? Or Sept. 13, 1980? Or Sept. 21, 1968? No, we didn't win any of
those games, and yes, they were all one-offs. In fact, we didn't have a single
winning season in any of those years. Nebraska knew what they were doing. They
scheduled their preseason vs. a weak WAC team, and got their win. And now here
we are, having come full circle with the Huskers back to scheduling another weak
WAC team in September.Betcha Nebraska visits RES before they visit
Riverton Cougar:"First they tell us it will never
happen."Nobody was saying the cougars could schedule one-off
games vs. national powerhouses. Utah St. has been doing it for years. In fact,
not too long ago, Coastal Carolina played at Penn State. What we're saying will
never happen is the cougars won't get invited to a major conference. You're
mid-majors forever.Oh, and we're also saying that your November
schedules will be perennially WAC-ish, and your Home schedules will never
measure up to your big brother's up on the Hill.
"Y's little Brother Syndrome"Elmer Fudd, that was
hilarious!Fudd 4 President!Lets pat lil brother on the
head, give them their milk and graham crackers and send them to independence
land, where the Fairy God Mother will sprinkle fairy dust all over their weak
sauce schedule. So that they can end up with Romper room wins and butterfly
dreams of another lame top 25! YES! Now thats Football!all 54 team
members and 10 coaches!Oh yes, so this will get posted; Great
Truth Machine said:".....Playing teams like Nebraska in storied
Memorial Stadium in Lincoln, Nebraska is what college football is all about.
Only fans of a johnny-come-lately program with no history couldn't appreciate
the experience."You are obviously mistaken. BYU is looking for
any experience it can get. Has to work harder just to schedule teams. Its no
guarantee an agreements can be changed. And just what is going to happen if
Nebraska decides to pull the plug? You got it, Fill the slot with a WAC team.Go WAC legacy building Cougs!
@Rock(NOT)well" U should have saved a little something for your
"new rival", instead of spending the entire season reminiscing about a
gift win against an irrelevant, independent."Open mouth, insert
foot.You called that right "irrelevant independent"Hang in there Band of Lil Brothers!Cant wait for another
curb stomping in September!YES! Utah by 45 next time
Y's little brother said:"As usual, another BYU schedule
announcement, followed by another avalanche of jealous rants from our little
brothers on the hill. When has a big name Big Ten team EVER visited RES -
Michigan, Ohio State, Wisconsin, Penn State, Michigan State, Iowa, Illinois or
Nebraska?"Considering what sport you are talking about I would
consider all BIG10 schools to be big names. Starting with the new football
agreement BIG10 teams will be visiting RES on a regular basis.
Fudd"Utah just beat the living daylights out of BYU..."Yet, BYU finished in the Top 25, while Utah didn't receive a single
vote. One game does not a season make. U should have
saved a little something for your "new rival", instead of spending the
entire season reminiscing about a gift win against an irrelevant, independent.
@ Y's little brother syndrome"As usual, another BYU schedule
announcement, followed by another avalanche of jealous rants from our little
brothers on the hill. When has a big name Big Ten team EVER visited RES -
Michigan, Ohio State, Wisconsin, Penn State, Michigan State, Iowa, Illinois or
Nebraska?"Utah just beat the living daylights out of BYU 54-10
on national TV last fall. Utah has taken control of the rivalry by winning 7 of
the last 10 games over the last 10 years. Utah will put BYU in it's place as
little brother this fall for the final game, and will send the cougies home with
their tail between their legs. Utah owns BYU 55-34-4 (Not even close!). Plus,
Utah (1850) has been around longer than BYU (1875). The sooner we
drop our little brothers off our schedule the sooner we'll have Big Ten teams to
play. Go Utes! and Go Pac-12!
Utah would never take a one and none from a school like Nebraska. They aren't
even in the PAC 12.
Thank you jealous ute fans. I know this game is eating you up. I noticed utah
isn't on the schedule for 2015. Hmmm Nebraska can make room but the utes can't.
It's easy to see who is running scared.
Go Cougars! This is a great announcement. I've been to a game in Lincoln before
and it is a crazy fun place. Good job Holmoe!
The kids on the hill see their program falling farther and farther behind BYU
and it's killing them. If they really considered BYU irrelevant, they wouldn't
have to spend their every waking breath trying to convince themselves.
Riverton Cougar"There will never be a way to please
them."What do you expect? They're Utah trolls. There is no
pleasing them because they're insanely jealous of everything BYU does.
No Conference Will Take Us"And where is my beloved
BYU?"Your beloved BYU? Get real!Since when does a
BYU-hating, Utah troll consider BYU "beloved"?Playing
teams like Nebraska in storied Memorial Stadium in Lincoln, Nebraska is what
college football is all about. Only fans of a johnny-come-lately program with no
history couldn't appreciate the experience.
As usual, another BYU schedule announcement, followed by another avalanche of
jealous rants from our little brothers on the hill. When has a big name Big Ten
team EVER visited RES - Michigan, Ohio State, Wisconsin, Penn State, Michigan
State, Iowa, Illinois or Nebraska?
CFTx says "Give it one more year, when our agreement with the WAC ends, and
you will see a big improvement in November schedule."Curious
what teams you have in mind when you say "big improvement" over the
WAC slate. Many of the big conferences are going to 9 conference game
schedules, leaving little room for non-conference scheduling -- certainly not in
November. The SEC is the only big conference I've seen schedule non-conference
in November, and even then the SEC is not looking to schedule someone as good as
BYU (see? a compliment). They look for a barely-division 1 school to use as a
virtual bye week on their brutal November schedules.
This is a nice game for BYU to schedule and will likely get very big TV
coverage. Will see if it is 1 and done or a longer term deal before
commenting.To @jakra-rus - Really? You put up a post insulting a PAC 12
schedule when BYU played NMSt, Idaho, Idaho State and a bunch of other cupcakes
this year. Guess you forgot that the Y is also playing WSU in the future and
also forgot about what the end of the season holds for the next few years.I applaud BYU for scheduling ND, Ga Tech and some other strong names. After
reading posts like those from jakra, I like the Nebraska game even more - it
will be great to watch another team in red beat the Cougs that year.
First they tell us it will never happen. Now that it's happening they laugh
because it's a one and done. What next? There will never be a way to please
Equating BYU's schedule to Utah State's schedule demonstrates either ignorance,
hatred or both.I'm the first one to admint that BYU's 2012 schedule
is not quite as rigourous as most AQ schedules. But it's a lot more rigourous
than the MWC schedule that BYU and Utah used to play. And I'm betting that by
2013 or 2014, BYU's schedule will be on par with most AQ teams (excluding the
SEC of course).MLH - Give it one more year, when our agreement with
the WAC ends, and you will see a big improvement in November schedule.
Who am I sir?Cottonwood Heights, UTYou remind me of the 12
year old girl who has to try and make every conversation about HER. Cute.
Sigh.No home game against the Huskers? Another power team from a BCS
conference. And where is my beloved BYU? On the outside looking in trying to
assemble schedules each year. It would be easier if we were part of a BCS
conference to begin with. Even Nebraska gets a hefty payout from the Big10
network. And we are stuck with a glorified WAC/ESPN contract.Unfortunately
no conference will take us.
@who am i sirWell it sounds like you'll maybe get to sit in res for
a bunch of ute losses.Congratulations?
Congratulations! Nebraska in 2015.As an independent it look like
the Y will be able to schedule early games away at a couple very good schools
each year. Not certain that is a solution for a competitive schedule of 12
games including top opponents at home. Wait a minute I am wrong. There are a
few schools who have agreed to come to Provo on a two away/ one at home
basis.There is possible good news for Y fans. With the PAC-12
scheduling a cross over game on an annual basis with the Big 10, there is the
possibility Nebraska could be playing at RES prior to 2015. If not â
maybe Michigan, Ohio State, Penn State, Wisconsin, etc.
If you look at future Cougar schedules there are a lot of holes in October and
November. I wish that Holmoe would at least let fans know that there is a plan
to make the second half of upcoming seasons interesting. Whether the plan works
or not is yet to be seen but at least let us know there is a plan. Supporters
are getting tired of hearing the following: "scheduling is a long process
but things are moving along", "we are working on some intriguing
matchups", "we will announce some exciting matchups in the future with
our partners". Considering what has happended to the Mountain West and
WAC, going independent was absolutely the right thing to do. But make it worth
our while to continue renewing our season tickets.
This will be another great road trip. Can't wait. And there will be more coming
out on this with time by the way, this isn't all of this.
This should be a fun match-up!
Cougar fanI am very serious when I ask you, Why would any teams that
you mentioned want to move out of conference play in November and play BYU?
They have their leagues to worry about, BYU is just not that big a deal for
teams to play late in the year. The Y is going to have to pay teams out of the
WAC, or Big Sky to play in November. Just not going to happen for you buddy,
you guys have made your bed and you will have to live with the schedule.jarka-rusWould have been a great time to comment on how much
fun it will be to play Nebraska, but you decide to rip on the PAC-12. It just
blows me away each time you comment about 10.2 do you seriously think that the
schedule your team plays is something that is really working out. Just might
happen that the U might be playing Nebraska that year also now that the PAC and
Big-10 are playing each other starting in 2014. Owe and don't bad mouth Montana
High, you guys have Weber State High this year, along with Idaho State High last
year.MesoUte stated correctly-You are now at the same level as Utah
Nice to see Nebraska on the schedule and who knows more to come if Tom Holmoe
can bring them here at LES. Yes, you know it will be on national TV maybe like
NBC, CBS or ABC but more likely ESPN which is fine with me. Like one comment
said above a lot of games during 1st week will be cupcake and this one will for
sure be on national TV. Yes it would of been better we schedule at neutal sight
but I don't think it will happen (hope I am wrong).Don't worry about
Novemeber schedule because WAC is already dead after 2012. Sorry USU which I DO
HOPE you will join this Murge MWCCUSA.
mesouteAnd that USU team is on that vaunted ute schedule next year
among the powerhouses like Northern Colorado. Phew.
Bless the trolls....and thanks for ever proving...you're damned if you do, and
damned if you don't.
I absolutely love this match-up!I'm betting they'll turn around and
announce a home and home with Nebraska for future years, similar to what we did
with Texas when we announced the game in Austin first and then turned around and
announced a home and home with the Longhorns. Holmoe talks about a "long
term relationship" with Nebraska, which isn't a one and done.Do
you think this will be a nationally televised game? Oh Ya! Many AQ teams are
playing Div 2 cupcakes in week 1. This game will draw a lot of eyeballs in week
1.If we can fix the November scheduling (and I think we will), I
really like how Independence is working out. I don't even need us to play Top
10 caliber teams in November. If we could permanently move the Hawaii and Boise
State games to Nov or 1st week of December and mix in an Air Force, San Diego
State, Tulsa, Colorado State, or Houston for November match-ups; I'd be one
Jaka-Rus:Interesting points sir. Congratulations to BYU for scheduling a
$$$game with a storied program. It wouldn't be such a big laugher if BYU fans
didn't constantly tout their national brand as a factor in assuring at least one
return game. Congratulations Cougars, you are now on the same level as USU.
i'm sorrry, but this is a joke. i understand the necessity of BYU scheduling 2
for 1's with ND and Texas, and a 1 and done with OleMiss, a schedule had to be
thrown together in basically 5 minutes, and BYU had to make a splash with big
names right away to draw attention to their new independance...but this game
isn't until 2015. thats fine that Nebraska didn't want a return game but why
couldn't we get a neutral site game?? cowboys stadium, or maybe even mile high
stadium?? Oklahoma allowed that, and Nebraska recently has not had nearly the
same success as the sooners. i can't help but be disappointed in this
announcement. even Boise State gets neutral site games with the big boys,
remember Georgia and VT the last two years?? who is more to blame about this,
Tom Holmoe, or ESPN??
Howard S.Taylorsville, UTIs a one and done better than a two for
one?----You tell us Howard: are you glad that the series with Notre
Dame is over or would you rather go back there for them to come to SLC?
Growing up in Omaha and going to school at BYU, this one has been a lifelong
dream match-up for me! We'll definitely be at this game wearing blue and red.
But why can't we play juggernauts like Montana high, CU, Zona, UCLA or
Wazzooooo? If only Nebraska had some kind of storied program like those in the
mighty Pac 10.2 1/4. Guess this independent thing is really not working out.
I've wanted to see this matchup for a long time. Glad to see it happen and hope
more games are forthcoming.
Is a one and done better than a two for one?