My hat is off to both Ms. Martindale for her articulate and well-reasoned words,
and the Deseret News for printing her excellent piece.
I'm surprised by this editorial and once again feel I'm living in the Twilight
Zone. Good job DN.Utah's legislators don't care what their
constituents want, the only person they seem to care about is the one who seems
to know where all the bodies are; Gayle Ruzicka. Her wishes are their commands.
No one else matters.
The majority of voters in Utah do not bother to educate themselves about the
issues and the candidates. Thus, they are easily fooled by propaganda from
extremists. The resulting situation is one in which only the most extreme of the
extremists are elected.The extremists in the legislature do not care
about the will of the public. Why would they? The public has clearly
demonstrated that it is too apathetic to do anything about the legislature
ignoring its will.And so, the extremist legislature is left to
pursue its twin goals of creating greater access to alcohol and arming every
man, woman, and child in this State. Hopefully, the great mass of voters will
awaken before it is too late.
I donât like advertising. I donât like outdoor
advertising because:It is very difficult, if not possible, to avoid.
Especially when there is movement. It is distracting to my
attention to other things. Driving, walking, talking etc. It
covers up the things I want to see. The world of natural beauty. It
mostly tells only partial truths and sometimes outright lies.The
same objections apply to most other types of advertising, TV, radio, etc. Advertising is an anti-free market tool used by businesses to prevent
price and quality competition. It allows the higher price to be charged.It is a violation of my Constitutional right to the privacy and security
of my own life. I like advertising when it does itâs proper
job.Advertising is needed to provide the public with information
about the availability and location of a product.
'Every legislative session begs the same question: Do legislators actually care
what their constituents want? - Article ** John Boehner: If GOP
(Bush tax) Cuts Cause Federal Job Losses...'So Be It' - Huffington Post -
02/15/11 Locally: ** Herbert signs records bill HB477
after rally for veto' - By Paul Koepp, Deseret News - 03/08/11
Recently: ** Sex ed bill amended, impact unclear among Utah
lawmakers - By Molly Farmer, Deseret News - 02/09/12 So, do I think
legislators actually care? No. No, I don't think they
While I think legislatures should listen to public input thoughtfully:1. No one should be effectively forced to fund public schools if they do not
use them. I wish the State had a bill of rights that obviated the problem of
the majority dictating to the minority in an area so crucial as education,
allowing no realistic choice to many poor or middle class parents other than
unfunded home schooling.2. Parents with children at private schools
often sacrifice much, in other words, perforce also subsidizing the public
schools, as well of course as do those who have no children at school at all.
3. If the legislature really was responsive to the Utah public they
would do something about the illegal aliens that overload the school system,
additionally often requiring teaching functional English, or having to teach in
Spanish. I suspect Ms Martindale may prove selective in the areas
she wishes a responsive legislature, and to whom they should be responsive.
Would she feel the same about majority opinion in the case of dealing with
illegal immigration etc. Does she care about the basic constitutional rights of
choice and disposal of private property? Apparently not.
Interesting how the Legislature "begs the question" every year, since
"begging the question" is another term for "circular
"Parents with children at private schools often sacrifice much, in other
words, perforce also subsidizing the public schools, as well of course as do
those who have no children at school at all."So why should the
parent that sends their child to private school get a tax break while the
citizens with no children get no such tax break? People with no
children still are bound by the social contract to support public schools
because an educated society is necessary for freedom. Parents who send their
children to private school have that right, but they should not get a tax break
to do so.
Yes, the legislature is listening.The question is, To Whom?
Great Article, Just goes to show the flaws and corruption with a
"Representative" form of Government, vs.a
"Democracy" where the people vote.But - I guess we have no
one else to blame but the "People" who keep blindly re-electing these
"Represtentatives" just because they have the letter "R"
next to their names, with more ties to "special interests" [i.e.,
Secret Combinations] than the "People" they are suppose to Represent.
The legislature consists of of 104 people working on several hundred bills each
year. This bit of writing tries to define the entire group by a few less popular
actions. That seems less than honest. Senator Stephenson's bill didn't even
make it out of committee. Polling shows most Utahns approve of the
work their representatives do on their behalf. Most legislators tend to avoid
the group Maryann Martindale represents but they do try to listen to their
Utah Senate: " but they do try to listen to their constituents"------------If you did, where is our non-discrimination
bill? I think you are all chicken and do not dare go against Gail R. Show us
you listen. Do something!
Congratulations to Maryann Martindale for a well-written and even-handed look at
the Legislature. In spite of anything legislators say about how they listen to
public opinion their public actions betray their public statements. I don't
think it's that they are not listening. It's more of a contempt for the public
and public opinion and an allegiance to an inner circle of power politics in
this state. How else can you explain the constant push for vouchers despite the
overwhelming rejection of that law by direct referendum of the people. Instead
of respecting the will of the people (their bosses) some such as Stephenson view
the public as just another player in the power game of Utah politics. An
"interest group" that they need to manuever around to get what they
want.People continue to sound the cry for "parental
Choice" when in reality "Parental Choice" is already a fact.
Parents in Utah can and do make choices about their children's education and no
law prevents that. Many east-side schools in SL county wouldn't exist
otherwise.The issue isn't about choice per se but rather an attempt
by some people to justify the use of public money for private purposes--they
dream of privatization with its promise of profits and control. If only they
can just get that taxpayer money to fund the whole scheme!Now
Stephenson. I still can't put a finger on that. It isn't just privatization
with him. It's not just the money. It's like he carries a deep personal
resentment towards public education and educators that drives his efforts to
undermine and dismantle public education. His actions over the past two decades
reveal his agenda despite his public comments. How he can sit on the committee
to oversee education in the legislature while carrying within himself such
contempt for it is beyond rational understanding. I just wish that the
Legislative Education Committee could concern itself with efforts to strengthen,
manage, and improve public education instead of providing a fortress from which
to launch attacks on the system.