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Published: Tuesday, Feb. 21 2012 12:00 a.m. MST

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1conservative
WEST VALLEY CITY, UT

Whats wrong with having healthy debates among the Republican Presidential candidates?

I wonder how many Demos. WISH they had a choice among their Presidential candidates?

Mainstream media is desperate to continue the Presidency of Barack Obama. In the next few months you'll see many more articles attempting to show that NO ONE should bother challenging Pres. Obama.

Without the total cooperation of the mainstream media, Pres. Obama's re-election wouldn't stand much of a chance.

David King
Layton, UT

I've mentioned this before, but I'll mention it again, because the media just seems to ignore it completely. If you watch the news, you'll be told this is a two-man race between Romney and Santorum. Their delegate counts show Mitt Romney ahead with Santorum trailing, then Gingrich and Paul far behind. The fact is, their delegate counts thus far are just estimates, and not very good ones, as they completely ignore how delegates are allocated in the caucus states. In these states, a certain number of delegates is awarded by those voting at the state convention, not by percentage of popular vote. Who votes at the state convention? Those who won in their local precincts. This has been an ignored strength of the Ron Paul campaign, getting people to run as delegates. By the Paul campaign's estimates, they are positioned to win 50% to 75% of the delegates in Maine, Iowa, Colorado, and Minnesota. That would leave the current delegate count looking like this:
Romney-93
Paul-82
Gingrich-29
Santorum-25
Still unpledged-14 (delegates won by Huntsman and unbound party leaders)

It's the story no one is talking about, and if it holds, things get interesting.

Esquire
Springville, UT

Don't drag the Democrats into this sad state of affairs. In my lifetime, I've never seen anything so pathetic in the chase for the nomination.

pragmatistferlife
salt lake city, utah

I really wouldn't bet against an unfinished process by the time Tampa roles around. There are at least three different and plausible scenarios that would make this possible. I also think that if you pay attention it's easy to see that this is an internal battle that has been coming for some time and with faction leaders like Rommney, Paul, and Santorum the battle is stark and fierce.

I would bet that this battle is the very reason Bush, Daniels, and Christy, are staying out. They don't want to be the sacrarficial lamb for either faction.

Pagan
Salt Lake City, UT

** Poll: Less than half of GOP primary voters satisfied with 2012 field' - By Mark Murray - NBC News - 06/15/11

** GOP race narrows, but there's still no front runner' - By Steven Thomma, McClatchy Newspapers - Published by DSNews - 08/14/11

** Iowa vote dosent resolve GOP search for identity by Charles Babington AP Published by the DSNews 01/04/12

** GOP insiders reaching for panic button in the face of Santorum surge and rise of social issues - By Eric Schulzke Deseret News 02/20/12

Will the Republican party be able to reverse it's fortunes?

Who knows?

Maybe the Republican party will be able to focus on a side-issue like birth control and reverse it's fortunes in the next x5 months....

...and ignore, the last six months.

Mark l
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

The only reason Santorum is still "surging" in the polls is money. And where does that money end up? the media of course. This whole GOP "reality" show is manufactured to pump more money into the media. So the candidates have to follow the script that is put in front of them. Perry, Cain, Bachmann, etc were the first candidates "voted off the island" and then they realized the "show" was ending too soon, so they stunt casted Gingrich to boost the ratings in December. Any television producer could script this GOP X Factor. The next thing we will see after Santorum fades in the polls is another "surprise" candidate. I predict Jeb "Babyface" Bush. We'll see what the writers come up with.

LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

Face it -- It's an "Anybody BUT Mitt" run for the GOP nomination.

Mitt Romney is campaigning against Mitt Romney,
despite the Love-feast he enjoys in Republican Utah
[which is claerly a manifestation of; I'm voting for Mitt, because he's a Mormon - but will adamitaely deny any sort of Utah religous bias, while crying victimization of religious bias by everyone else using it against him....hypocrasy.]

Brother Chuck Schroeder
A Tropical Paradise USA, FL

Living here, oh I'm sure these RNC Republicans will have a real whiz-bang convention when they get to Tampa in August, then they'll wake up to smell the coffee, after us tac payers here had to pay them $500 million alone for security, to protect them from OWS. The RNC don't like "Snow White and the seven dwarfs", none of them, they are not crazy enough for them, so now they'll have to "pull a new rabbit" out of their bag of tricks, and find someone else to cheer on. Mark my word's here, that'll happen. Oh and don't forget, it's us here in Florida that picks the winner. Not Mitt, because he's a Mormon and DNews loves him, and not Utah. A elephant never forgets, we'll remember 2008 and be crying victimization from the GOP to and ObamaNation also.

The Skeptical Chymist
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

In reply to 1conservative, who asked "I wonder how many Demos. WISH they had a choice among their Presidential candidates?"

There are many things I dislike about Barack Obama's presidency. I think he has failed in his moral leadership - particularly in regards to his vigorous prosecution of whistleblowers, his dropping of the pursuit of justice for those who authorized torture, and his continuing use of the absurd state secrets privilege. These actions are very bad for our long-term future as a democracy.

However, there is certainly no one on the Republican side who is even worthy of consideration. With their proposed draconian austerity measures they would drive the economy into a major depression, instead of the tepid recovery we are currently enjoying(?). Their fundamentalist desires to control women and women's sexuality, their vehement opposition to civil rights for gays, their embrace of religion generally, to the exclusion of those who are unbelievers, all would drive the U.S. backwards, making it far less of a democracy than it is becoming.

I shiver when I consider the possibility of any of the Republican candidates taking office.

Anonymous Infinity
American Fork, UT

We're not receiving much truthful news on unemployment. The fact is there are millions fewer people working. The universe of jobs is being manipulated downward causing a lower level of unemployment percentage. What a crock. This president is going to go down bigtime. The election in November will boil down to turnout, and the level of bogus dead, etc. votes being counted on the democrat side of the count.

This republican nomination process is just great, giving the presidents minions less time to attack the truth.

one old man
Ogden, UT

And in the meantime, think of all the entertainment we are being provided.

Just like watching endless re-runs of the Three Stooges.

atl134
Salt Lake City, UT

@David King
Ron Paul cannot win the nomination without winning a single state no matter how cute he gets with snagging unpledged delegates. The most you can hope for is that Santorum, Gingrich, and Paul combine for more than 50% of delegates.

Irony Guy
Bountiful, Utah

At this point Obama's a shoe-in. The economy is improving, the automotive industry is back, Obama handles international tensions masterfully--just the right amount of firmness and restraint. No more Bin Laden, no more Khadafy at a very low cost. The Republican anti-reality show will continue to be highly entertaining, however. Looking forward to a fun summer!

VST
Bountiful, UT

@Irony Guy,

Do not count your "chickens before they hatch."

Just wait until gas prices get to be significantly higher than $4.00/gallon and the cost of food (transported by those diesel-guzzling trucks) go through the roof. Each $0.10 increase in the cost of gasoline results in about an $11 billion decrease in consumer expenditures, which significantly impacts economic growth.

This election will be determined by the cost of gasoline and food; not by what the politicians and pundits say it will be.

David King
Layton, UT

@atl134

I didn't say Ron Paul would get the nomination. I said he was picking up a lot of delegates and is second to Romney, not Gingrich or Santorum. I still think he could pick up a couple of states. His numbers are good in Washington, for example. Do I think he will be the Republican nominee? As much as I don't like to admit it, no. I do feel his influence will continue to grow and that he will have an important voice in shaping the future of the party. I think those are very good things.

JoeBlow
Miami Area, Fl

"This election will be determined by the cost of gasoline and food"

And the right will try to spin the rise in gasoline cost as the fault of the Dems.

In reality, the primary cause is tensions in Iran and the threatened block of Hormuz.

But, reality and honesty are not often used in politics.

VST
Bountiful, UT

@JoeBlow,

Never said it was fair, but as James Carville (Clinton's campaign guru) said back in 1992, "It is the economy, stupid!"

Regardless of the real reason for a bad economy, the administration in power will always get blamed by the voters, whether they are Democrats, Independents, or Republicans.

pragmatistferlife
salt lake city, utah

Really Anonoymous " This president is going to go down bigtime. The election in November will boil down to turnout, and the level of bogus dead, etc. votes being counted on the democrat side of the count." Wow this is the most far fetched thing I seen on these threads in some time..and there are some doosys.

Have you per chance noticed the turn out numbers in the Republican primaries? Way, way down from '08. And, the whole voter fraud canard. Every time a state gets worked up about it they discover that there are less than a dozen suspected cases and fewer than a dozen that can be prosecuted. Try and win an election a national election with those numbers. Pure myth.

Pagan
Salt Lake City, UT

Do not count your "chickens before they hatch. - VST

He's right.

Please vote.

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