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Published: Wednesday, Feb. 15 2012 12:00 a.m. MST

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Emajor
Ogden, UT

"Attack on religion"? Give me a break, the only people really upset about this are Catholic leadership and unsavory political types looking for any political edge against Obama. From what I've heard, the majority of polled Catholics are not opposed to contraceptives or this mandate. Many of the religion's leaders, however, are. And as one news analyst put it: "There are more women in the country than Catholics"

Attack on religion? A mountain out of less than a mole hill. I thought liberals were the only ones so sensitive and easily offended.

Esquire
Springville, UT

There is no attack on religion. Let's make that clear. Statements that there is an attack are nothing more than partisan politics, particularly from politicized religious institutions than want government protection for them but not for competing religious views and institutions. They effectively want a state sponsored church. The Constitution, for them, is good when convenient, and to be ignored when inconvenient.

liberal larry
salt lake City, utah

Gerson has overestimated the scope of Obama's contraception blunder. He also fails to mention that insurance companies WANT to supply contraception, since it is much less expensive for them than pregnancies, and additional children.

The genius in Obama's "blunder" is that after his skillful retreat the conservatives are now trying to continue the attack against birth-control, a losing issue for the right, since most Americans support access to contraception. In addition, Obama's miss step appears to have rallied the religious right behind Santorum, draining support for Romney and further dividing the GOP.

atl134
Salt Lake City, UT

Catholics in a Pew poll cited in this newspaper yesterday are 52-39 in favor of Obama's decision. Some miscalculation... even the "attacked" group supports the "attack".

John Charity Spring
Back Home in Davis County, UT

The left wing has an open and stated agenda of removing all religious influence from American society. The left wants the public looking only to government for support, and not to any religious institution. If people look only to government, that increases the power of government and of the left wing extremists in office.

Only the most extreme claim that there is no attack on religion. Clearly, forcing a religious institution to violate its core beliefs is one of the most insidious attacks there is.

It is time for the public to stop apologizing to the left for the irrefutable fact that the Founding Fathers established this Country on Judeo-Christian principles. Let us reject leftist propaganda and return to being the nation that the Fathers intended us to be.

Mike Richards
South Jordan, Utah

The Constitution clearly and unmistakably states that Congress cannot interfere with religion. Period. That case is closed. Anyone who believes differently either can't read or chooses not to read the plain and simple words of the Constitution.

The President and the Courts know that neither of them can legislate. That is clearly written in the Constitution. There is no doubt about that. Only Congress is given authority by the people to legislate.

The President is required, by law, to take an oath of office where he swears that he will uphold the Constitution.

All of that has become a joke to Mr. Obama. He is doing everything that he can possibly do to trash the Constitution and the limits that YOU and I put on him.

The people retain all authority, all rights and all power that were not specifically delegated to government. Mr. Obama would have us believe that HE parcels out authority, rights and power to US.

He attacked religion full on. He tried to enforce an unconstitutional law that dictates to an establishment of religion what they must do, notwithstanding the fact that their doctrine forbids them from complying.

Mr. Obama failed in his duty.

LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

Michael Gleason is pandering to a select group of the Fox News audience.

The radical right constatnly needs a common boogieman - a strawman - to keep their scare motivated listeners United - otherwise, they turn upon themselves.
don't believe me?, What the GOP nominations.

They have created these fictional wars
war on Religion war,
War on Terror,
War on drugs,
War on Conservatives,
Class war,
ect.

This particular isses is not about religion at all,
but clearly the completely sepereate businesses owned by Churches.

This quote by Sullivan was spot on:
"And if this was a trap, the religious right walked right into it." Religious conservatives are now identified, he says, with "opposition to contraception."

50% of Americans are women, and Pres. Obama just re-assured the Women's vote.

The GOP keeps catering to the Archie Bunker's of America, and alienating everyone else not just like them.

Archie Bunker - Rush Limbaugh, co-incidence?

worf
Mcallen, TX

Obama partial list of miscalculations:

* increase taxes on the rich will fix the economy.
* shutting down oil drilling
* Solyndra
* we're not a Christian nation
* Marine corpse men
* Keystone veto
* I've been in fifty seven states with one more to go.
* George Bush took vacations, so sacrifice and help pay for mine.

atl134
Salt Lake City, UT

In a CBSNews/NYTimes poll issued today 61% of people support this Obama policy. Getting 60% support for anything these days is pretty rare.

Old Jake
Salt Lake City, UT

Obama is mocking our entire country. It is truly amazing that we tolerate him. We have a President that won't salute the Flag? Why are we even considering anything he says?

Esquire
Springville, UT

@ Mike Richards, may I suggest you read Reynolds v. US (1878) and accompanying cases. Then tell me how that applies to today, and to your arguments. I would love to see an explanation on this.

Pagan
Salt Lake City, UT

'Consider the implications of this praise. It means that Obama assaulted the core beliefs of some of his fellow citizens in order to lure them into politically self-destructive behavior.' - article

I would say, it worked.

As 1) Over 80% of Catholic women USE contraception. How can the radical Right claim they have the 'majoirty' on their side...

when majority of the target group, women, USE this product?

2) This is not creating jobs. And who is at the front line?

The Republican party and religion. Painting both to be out of touch with the issues that face America, and willing to argue over side issues instead of put the well-being of this country, first.

And last, Republicans like to use the phrase 'abortion pill' in these debates....

and yet Roe vs. Wade settled the question of aboriton, in 1973.

And today, 38 years later, we have examples of Republicans trying to, yet again, deny abortions.

This shows futility as almost FOUR decades ago, we still have to drag this issue back up for people who (mostly male) will not get pregnant from rape.

Pagan
Salt Lake City, UT

This was not a 'miscalculation'.

It was drawing out the extreme fringe of the Republican party to present right before an election.

And guess what? It worked.

** 'Sharron Angle's Advice For Rape Victims Considering Abortion: Turn Lemons Into Lemonade' - Sam Stein - Huffington Post - 07/08/10

"One thing she has not backed away from has been her insistence that abortion should be outlawed universally, even in cases of rape and incest." article

Sharon Angle won the nomination for the Senate from the Republican party in Arizona.

She lost.

Many would consider her '2nd amendment remedies' to be extreme.

And yet:

**'Perry shifts views on abortion, opposes exceptions' - By Phillip Elliot - AP Published by DSNews - 12/27/2011

'OSCEOLA, Iowa Republican Rick Perry is shifting his opposition to abortion, saying he opposes it even after rape or incest.' - article

Rick Perry ran for the canidacy for the Republican President of the United States.

He dropped out.

This shows the extremist veristions of Republicans, that want to deny abortion...

even in cases of rape, and incest.

Pagan
Salt Lake City, UT

Ok.

I have presented evidence why Republicans choosing to go against a product, birth control, that over 80% of catholic women use, is a mistake.

Now, let's look at examples of what HAPPENS to people denied birth control:

** 'Judge releases beaten teen, citing state's abortion law' - By Emiley Morgan - Published by DSNews - 10/14/09

'A 17-year-old girl who paid a man to beat her in the hopes of terminating her pregnancy has been...' - article

A x17 year old girl, factually DENIED birth control, pays a man to BEAT her until she looses the pregnancy.

This happened, in Utah.

Also:
** 'GOP trying to use tax law to limit abortions' - By Stephen Ohlemacher - AP - Published by DSNews - 03/31/11

Zero job creation.

And last:

Mitt Romney passed REQUIRED contraception in religion in MA...

in 2002.

No claims of Romney's 'war on religion' from Republicans.

Brother Chuck Schroeder
A Tropical Paradise USA, FL

FIRST "the smoke-screen and cover-up" to keep youe eyes gluded here, "Obama's attack on religion a big miscalculation." While Congress does this behind YOUR BACKS. US House Budget ax falls on U.S. air defenses. After the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, exposed gaping holes in the nation's air security, the U.S. military took steps to dramatically increase its ability to intercept hostile aircraft. Chief among those, Station fighter jets at strategic points across the continental United States, with the goal of being able to intercept a hijacked plane or unfriendly aircraft within 20 minutes of identifying the threat. In the months after the attacks, the United States nearly quadrupled the number of fighter alert sites from seven to 26. Since then, however, the number has shrunk to 16 in the continental United States, including one at Homestead Air Reserve Base in South Florida, plus one each in Hawaii and Alaska. Now, the U.S. Air Force's budget for the next fiscal year reduces that further, eliminating the requirement at two sites that jets and pilots be on alert 24 hours a day. It's not sufficient for the nation's air defense. Sorry Utah.

My views.

Midvaliean
MIDVALE, UT

First of all these churches are running businesses. Businesses that have employees. They are not attending church. So this is a valid concern. Birth control is used for various reasons in women's health care. This is a grey area as much as the Right wing would like this to be black and white.
The "attack" is not an attack. Its what normal businesses have to deal with, so no surprise that their business also has to deal with this.
At what point to we keep giving churches tax exempt status? They seem to be more and more involved in public policy making? Doens't sound like a church to me. Sounds like a business.

LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

@Mike Richards | 8:15 a.m. Feb. 15, 2012
South Jordan, Utah
The Constitution clearly and unmistakably states that Congress cannot interfere with religion. Period. That case is closed. Anyone who believes differently either can't read or chooses not to read the plain and simple words of the Constitution.

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Using your infamous All-or-Nothing, Black & White logic.....

Can Government interfere with the FLDS?
How about the use of sacramental Hashish? Peyote? Ganja?
What about Churches who "allow" Gay Marrige? [I keep hearing you railing against it]
Radicalized Muslims would be free to kill in the name of Jihad.
Jews could stone.
and
did I forget to mention infant genital mutilations?

This over the top, all-or-nothingism interpretation to the U.S. Constitution could even legalize animal and Human Sacrifes.

Is that the America you dream about?

I thank God each and every morning we have Supreme Court Judges who use Common Sense to interpet and protect our Constitution and our country, and not leave it self-taught ideological zealots who insistantly FORCE their will [as God's will] and intreprations of it on the rest of us.

patriot
Cedar Hills, UT

Obama attacks and sues the State of Arizona over immigration. Obama attacks Wallstreet. Obama attacks the wealthy. Obama attacks small business that make over 250k. Obama attacks all those people in America who "cling to their guns and religion' and now Obama attacks Christianity. SO THE GREAT UNITER HAS BECOME THE GREAT DIVIDER!! Class warfare is an art for the zen master of socialism. We have seen enough of the HOPE - NOW we want CHANGE. CHANGE IN THE WHITE HOUSE OCCUPANTS THAT IS!!!

worf
Mcallen, TX

Patriot,

Thanks for your comment.

Pagan
Salt Lake City, UT

'Class warfare is an art for the zen master of socialism.' - patriot | 10:04 a.m. Feb. 15, 2012

** 'Bush signs $700 billion bailout bill' - AP - Published by Denver Post - By Tom Raum - 10/03/08

Yes Patriot, thank you for your comment.

Claiming that Obama is a 'socialist'...

while George W. Bush and a Republican majority in the House and Senate, signed the first Wall Street Bail out.

Invaded Iraq and Afghanistan.

Signed the TSA and Patriot Act, into law.

And Mitt Rommney signed MANDATORY birth control for religions, in MA, in 2002.

Thank you, for criticizing the actions, of the Republican party, in your partisan attack...

against Obama.

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