Published: Tuesday, Feb. 14 2012 12:00 a.m. MST
Lay aside all the partisan rhetoric and return to God! Without God, Liberty
does not exist. The great society, without charity, is a complete failure.
Compulsion, by government, without protection of our God-given rights is a sham!
We will return to prosperity and honest politicians when enough honest people
come back to the fold!
What kind of message is Obama sending when he wants a tax increase on the
"wealthy" and, at the same time, he wants to continue a tax holiday on
the payroll tax for the rest of us?He claims that continuing the
payroll tax holiday will generate at least $100 billion more in private
circulation and that that $100 billion will translate to thousands of new jobs,
jobs that take people off the unemployment roles.Does he really
think that reducing taxes on the general public by $100 billion and them raising
taxes by $100 billion on the "wealthy" will put more money in private
circulation? Can he do the math? Let me help. $100 billion minus $100 billion
equals ZERO.We need jobs. We need MORE workers who pay taxes. We
need FEWER people on unemployment. If $100 BILLION in tax cuts will stimulate
job growth, then what would $200 BILLION do, or $500 BILLION? What is the magic
number? What will it take to get unemployment down to 5%?
Spending is at all time highs and taxes are at 60 year lows.PLEASE
PLEASE tell my why it is not reasonable to make adjustments to both of those
I don't think you would be happy with anything the President put forward. Look
at your arguments in this editorial. And the Republicans were putting out their
talking points before they could possibly have reviewed the budget. The
response is not in good faith, but no one should have expected a different
response from the GOP.What a comparison of the budget with Romney's
plan shows is that Romney proposes higher taxes for the poor and lower taxes for
the very rich. Sorry, but this is the wrong direction. The budget does
establish a line in the sand and will give voters the opportunity to see that
the President is oriented more towards helping the middle class and the poor,
and the Republicans are about protecting the interests of the rich. Sorry,
folks, but almost none of you are in the very rich, yet many of you act against
your own interests. See the NYT article (with video interviews) this week where
the reporter went to a Minnesota town and talked to conservatives who much
relied on government help, but then voted for people who would take it away from
I agree with this editorial except the last sentence. Americans do have the
government they deserve. I didn't but my fellow citizens elected a completely
unqualified person who promised "change" but has only delivered
business as usual in DC. A President who completely ignored the deficit
commission he appointed and then had the audacity to attack Paul Ryan who put
forth a reasonable plan that may not have been perfect but was an earnest effort
worth considering seriously. What did he offer in response? A plan? No, another
speech. We do indeed have the government we deserve. It's our children who
won't have the Country/Government they deserve.
Amen..the article is .absolutely correct!
Republicans need to tax the rich. It is against their principles, but they have
to compromise.Democrats, on the other hand, need to means test for
social security and medicare. No subsidized health insurance for retired
millionaires. It should be less of a pain for them than for the Republicans.
After all it is according to their professed principles.But I am not
holding my breath.
How many budgets has the President proposed? How many compromises?
Birth control, etc? How many times has the Republican dominated
House voted to support him? We have 139 filibusters in the
Senate. **'The Rise Of Cloture: How GOP Filibuster Threats Have
Changed The Senate' - Ben Frumin and Jason Reif - Talking Points Memo -
01/27/10 'When Democrats reclaimed the Senate majority in the 2006
midterm elections, cloture filings shot up from 68 in 2005-2006 (From Dems) to a
record 139 in 2007-2008.' (From Republicans) - article Almost DOUBLE
from a Democratic majority. What does this tell us?
Obama is not the one presenting 'more of the same'. He is being Obstructed,
every step of the way, by the Republican party. We have this
exampled by the nation's damaged credit score! Try to tell me this 'didn't
happen' because of the GOP votin g 'No' on EVERY piece of legislation, including
the Budget. The GOP is putting the well-being of it's PARTY... OVER, the well being of this country. And the Ameican
citizens, are taking notice. Why vote for someone...
...who doesn't work to help this country??
There is no "means test" when the government takes our social security
"contributions" so there can be no "means test" when it
comes time for the government to keep its promises.I do not think
that any nation can tax itself into prosperity and I do not think that any
family can spend its way into wealth.Taxes take money away from
those who work for it and taxes take money out of the hands of those who might
want to spent it for someone that they want, not for something that the
government thinks we need.I am 100% for all authorized spending by
the government. If we citizens have given the government the obligation to do
something for us, we should be willing to pay for that service. I know that
those obligations have been written down so that no one can make a mistake. I
think that most of the things that the government is doing are things that the
government has decided to do are not on that list.
What is obvious about Obama is that fact he is in way over his head. With only
two years in the senate for experience, why we elected him is a valid question.
He has no idea how to work with both sides of the aisle. Say what you want, but
Republicans have been frustrated by his refusal to discuss issues. He may be a
nice guy and charismatic, but there is a good reason why democrats and
republicans have reached the worst impasse we have had in years. His "my
way or the highway" approach has obstructed much possible legislation. He
has increased the size of government exponentially, ruined private enterprise,
increased the percentage of people depending on government support by 25%, and
created a foreign policy that has brought disrespect in the eyes of our allies
and enemies. His universalist views of a world-wide government and religion are
downright scary. Retirement after one term is critical for our country. The
only question history will have is, who was worse, Carter or Obama?
@CounterIntelligence"Obama's budget is a joke: Taking all the money
of the uberwealthy would not make a dent in his overspending."His budget has a 2013 deficit of 900 billion which is 300 billion less than
this years' projected deficit.
@Mike Richards"Does he really think that reducing taxes on the
general public by $100 billion and them raising taxes by $100 billion on the
"wealthy" will put more money in private circulation? Can he do the
math? Let me help. $100 billion minus $100 billion equals ZERO."The rich don't spend their money. Look at Romney. He's got 100 million trust
fund for his kids. Not that there's anything wrong with it... but that's 100
million that's not in the economy. 100 million in the hands of the middle class
gets spent into the economy.
alt134,Just where is that $100 million that Romney has set aside for
his kids? Is it stuffed in a mattress? Is is sitting on a shelf in a
piggy-bank or is it working hard as capital that funds businesses and employes
people?Surely you are educated to the point that you understand how
wealth is used.Surely you are not one of the ignorant who think that
rich people are just another "Scrooge McDuck" as characterized by
Disney.If the government seized that $100 million, how many
businesses would be foreced to close? How many people would lose their jobs?
What would the government do with that money? Would they use it to pay
unemployment benefits to the people that they put out of work?
atl134,$100 million in a trust fund or bank account will do much
more for the economy than $100 million spent in grocery stores. Economics 101.
Maybe the arithmetic this administration uses is the "new math".They probably need remedial help, the numbers don't add up.
'Maybe the arithmetic this administration uses is the "new math". -
1conservative | 12:21 p.m. Feb. 14, 2012 If this is true, then I
want to know what math justifies the Bush Tax cuts for the wealthy will 'create
jobs'... when unemployment shot UP, from the 7% under Bush, to the
9% when Obama took office. If these are the SAME policies, and the
Republican party claims the wealthy 'job creators' have been creating jobs while
getting a federally funded tax CUT for the last x10 years.... why
did unemployment SKYROCKET, under Republican polices? Obama's plan
to tax the wealthy, makes sense. Because continuing the SAME Bush
polices, have factually gotten the American economy, worse.
Obama would make a better car salesman than president.
When the republican independents helped nominate Obama as the democrat
candidate, I was sure that it was done with the expectation of him losing the
election. When Obama was elected I was sure that their plan backfired. Now I
feel sure that their plan succeeded.Obama is the most hated
president of my lifetime. Totally blocked in Congress by the solidarity of the
party of no and the filibuster threat in the Senate, Obama was completely
emasculated and prevented from doing the job he was elected to do. The misnomer âObamacareâ was applied to a legislative monstrosity
that was created for the business part of the health care industry. People who
would have worked toward what the people wanted and what Obama promised, health
care reform, were forbidden to participate. It is likely that Obama himself
had little or no input to the flagrant disregard for the wishes of the people.
It is little wonder that the business controlled media had no
trouble in demeaning and antagonizing the public against Obamacare. The
business world and their minions picked and poked at everything they could to
criticize Obama, there was nothing âover the topâ. The public
became convinced of the false notion that there was a conservative and a liberal
media. The truth is there is only one philosophy in the media. Itâs
called business. The really bad thing done in the campaign against
Obama, was the seemingly deliberate economic recession promoted by republicans
and fellow travelers by the businessmen who controls employment of American
workers. Ask why they act in such a way, they answered âwe are unsure
about the futureâ. Even now, the anti-Obama, anti-people
forces are marshaled against America testing whether or not people have the
right, acting through their government, to regulate and control commercial
business.Or whether freedom of religion can be used to exempt their
actions from the rule of law outside and beyond the right to believe and
worship. Such as in business operations and advertising their belief in the
public square. It is a true fact that business has always ruled the
lives of people. It is also true that if the American experiment is to have any
chance of success, the people must somehow gain control.
I was also disappointed with the president's budget but not for the same
reasons. As it appears unemployment will remain chronically high, President
Obama should have tried some trickle up economics instead of his own trickle
down and Bush's He should be proposing the federal government become an
employer of last resort, rebuilding infrastructure like the New Deal. We have
already had trickle down on a truly massive scale, granting big banks unlimted
cheap credit. Why not a little tricke up (and immediate relief for America's
massses) for a change?
Marxist,Who provides the money to hire people for public projects?
Is that money just sitting there waiting for a "good cause" or is that
money taken from hard working people who are forced to pay for the sloth of a
government that would take money out of the private sector and give to the lazy,
the incompetent, the slothful; those who would not take a job if they could get
government assistance to stay on the dole?Government projects extend
the problem. The money that is taken from you and from me to finance government
projects could have been paid to the butcher, the baker and the candle-stick
maker; but, instead, the government would have them go out of business so that
it can take its 80% off the top and then give 20% as wages.Look at
history. Read it. Understand it. Run the numbers and see for yourself how
little good has ever been done with "public works projects". Those
projects extended the misery. They devalued human lives.My
relatives suffered greatly because of FDR. Their lives were made miserable by
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