Comments about ‘Catholics' battle with Obama intensifies over contraception exemption’

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Published: Tuesday, Feb. 7 2012 11:38 a.m. MST

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Mountanman
Hayden, ID

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof". READ the constitution Obama!

procuradorfiscal
Tooele, UT

Re: "Catholics' battle with Obama intensifies . . . ."

And, lest we think we're not a part of this -- remember, paraphrasing [an excerpt from a reported variant of] Reverend Martin Niemoeller's sermon to pre-war Germans against unprecedented fascist predation:

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Then they came for the Catholics,
and I didn't speak up because I was a [Mormon].

Then they came for me -
and by that time no one was left to speak up.

It is a scary and unprecedented move for the chaplaincy to prohibit the reading of a pastoral letter to military congregations.

It's even scarier that they thought they had the right to do so in order to protect the Commander-in-Chief from embarrassment over his unprecedented attack on a particular religion.

What's next from this regime? We can't afford a secular liberal perception of anything other than seething outrage on the part of ALL religious and freedom-loving Americans over this issue.

Baccus0902
Leesburg, VA

The Catholic Church as an employer should respect the law of the land and provide full health insurance to all its employees.

The employee should have the freedom to use or not all the benefits provided by his/her insurance. If this is a matter of religion, then, it should be left to the conscience of the individual user.

The Church is formed by its members. Almost 90% of Catholic women use contraception devices, yet a minority formed by a bunch of single old men are trying to control the lives of married couples.

Counter Intelligence
Salt Lake City, UT

I have no particular devotion conservative politics, and being homosexual, contraceptives are not a big deal to me: However, I am appalled at that passive/aggression nature of the American left who sells concepts under the guise of "choice" and then immediately begins to systematically limit anyone from making any another choice, which includes demands that others pay for the left-wing "choice", against their âchoiceâ; and then they have the gall to complain that the left, not the ones they are oppressing, are the victims. The oblivious nature of the hard left leaves me appalled.

If government can force people to pay for other peoples contraceptives, then the next step is paying for their abortions, etc (and please donât complain about how some people are forced to pay for other peopleâs childrenâs education - it is apples and oranges)

We all like free stuff: but it never is free. Somebody pays.

TRUTH
Salt Lake City, UT

Good Job DNEWS....you actually beat the SLTRIB/Galivan Catholic Newspaper to this story and they were actually founded by Catholics......

I will spill my blood to defend the catholics right to religious freedom!

atl134
Salt Lake City, UT

Oh please, an issue came up, they discussed it, make an adjustment to one sentence, and let that be read. This isn't a big deal at all. Sounds like some people just want something to whine about while the adults already resolved the matter.

Wayne Rout
El Paso, TX

This is not just a problem for Catholics, it applies to Mormons, Jews, and others who actually believe in something. It is something that all these folks need to embrace and actively contact Beloved Supreme Leader Obama and your elected representatives. Take a hard stand and be tough.

Bored to the point of THIS!
Ogden, UT

If any organization accepts Federal money, they must be willing to accept Federal Law. If the Catholic church does not want to comply, simply give up the money.

I think this is a stupid "fight" by the Federal Government, but I understand they have little else to do... Oh wait, they really do have important issues...

procuradorfiscal
Tooele, UT

Re: "This isn't a big deal at all."

So, if a government bureaucrat -- let's say a state government bureaucrat, just to keep it interesting -- undertakes to review, disapprove, rewrite, then approve for dissemination, the instructions to your next Occupy Salt Lake City function, you're OK with that?

Just a little explanatory note -- most real people take pronouncements from religious leaders a lot more seriously than they do those from government bureaucrats. So, though Obama's New Left lemmings are apparently unconcerned, it bothers the rest of greatly that ANYONE would venture to review, prohibit, or change an Archbishop's pastoral instruction to his flock.

What's even worse is that any government bureaucrat would feel he has the authority to do so.

Any politician with an ounce of respect for the Constitution would know that.

Obama and his leftist minions apparently don't.

patriot
Cedar Hills, UT

Hopefully Catholics nation wide will stand up to more Obama bullying. Obama sees himself as a king - or dictator - not to be opposed. I'm happy that Catholics - usually pretty liberal - are starting to wake up and smell the stench of the Obama regime.

A1994
Centerville, UT

Catholics are an expendable voting bloc. Not too many of them in this country, right?

worf
Mcallen, TX

Since when has Obama become the Pope?

atl134
Salt Lake City, UT

@patriot
"Hopefully Catholics nation wide will stand up to more Obama bullying. "

A poll found that 55% of Americans support this decision by Obama. Catholics? 58% of them support it. (PRRI Religion and Politics Tracking Survey)

They got more specific and asked about religious universities and hospitals. 52% of Catholics still supported requiring them to cover birth control.

cjb
Bountiful, UT

If this were about abortion I could see the point of those who oppose Obama. Abortion denies a person the right to live. But what harm does contraception do? In telling Catholic employees they can't deny this coverage, Obama is giving a valuable insurance coverage to people who otherwise wouldn't have it.

No one is forcing anyone to use Contraceptives. Nor should anyone.

If a Christian Scientist church employees people, should they be allowed to deny their employees health insurance, because they don't believe in going to doctors? Should Jehovah's witness deny their employees insurance coverage for blood transfusions?

I think not. Likewise the Catholic church should not be allowed to deny their employees a coverage for contraceptives, something everyone else in America will soon have.

procuradorfiscal
Tooele, UT

Re: "No one is forcing anyone to use [c]ontraceptives."

No, but desperately power-hungry leftist politicians ARE using your money to buy votes from clueless rubes, requiring you to supply them with contraceptives -- even if your beliefs are violated by this cynical Democrat scam.

That should scare us all.

Today, the Obama regime buys votes by forcing all of us, including Catholics, to buy contraceptives. If they get away with it, tomorrow they'll force us to buy them abortions, drugs, citizenship, flat-screen TVs, Cadillac Escalades -- whatever it takes to purchase their votes.

And they simply don't care that you object to buying someone else an Escalade. The sole matter of import to leftists is the power to tell you what to do. That vote-buying has an ethical dimension is a matter of surpassing indifference to them.

As is religious freedom.

Only clueless rubes are taken in by this scam, but that's whose votes they're after. And, from some of the posts, it seems to be working.

patriot
Cedar Hills, UT

re:alt134

"With over 70 percent of Catholic pastors reading statements at Mass, decrying the mandate as an infringement on religious freedom, the White House is right to take this political threat seriously." (The Washington Examiner)

I say - go ahead Obama and arrogantly ignore this. PLEASE ignore it!!

atl134
Salt Lake City, UT

@patriot
90% of catholics use contraception. They ignore their own pastors and the majority of their own denomination supports Obama on this based on the poll I noted.

mohokat
Ogden, UT

I wish Barry the Bolshevik's mother would have had this in her insurance.

Aggielove
Junction city, Oregon

This is good news, if you dislike the current president.
He has jumped the shark one to many times.

Bubble
SLC, UT

Businesses are businesses - they are not people.

Businesses do not have freedom of religion because businesses don't have a religion. (I have yet to see a hospital or a university, Catholic or otherwise, sitting in a church on Sunday.)

The people who make up the business have freedom of religion.

Those people should have their contraceptives covered by their insurance. If they do not want to buy them, they don't have to - the same way they get their ED medications covered and the same way they don't have to buy them if they don't want them.

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