BYU rebounds from loss to post 83-73 win against No. 24 Gonzaga


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  • NightOwlAmerica SALEM, OR
    Feb. 4, 2012 9:05 p.m.

    SportsFan said:

    ....."LMU beat UCLA at UCLA.

    The Top 3 teams in the WCC would be the Top 3 teams in the PAC 12.

    Latest RPI Rankings

    #19 Gonzaga
    #22 Saint Mary's
    #38 BYU

    #42 Cal
    #63 Wash
    #76 Ariz

    mediocre teams are forced to hide behind the skirts of their conference, because they're too embarrassed to actually compare their programs mano-a-mano....."

    Only BYU fans with an image inferiority would bring up LMU beating UCLA. Who cares! LMU beat BYU at home.
    Based upon your description, BYU is hiding behind the skirts of the WCC for losing to them at the MC.

    BTW I am a proud Washington State alumni! We belong to the Conference of Champions and look forward to collecting that hefty paycheck each year.

  • Seminolebob JACKSONVILLE, FL
    Feb. 4, 2012 8:50 p.m.

    Riddles in the Dark it was an outspoken BYU football fan down here that brought me to this website.
    One other thing, you and SportsFan do not own this place. I have the right to post wherever I want. It does not take long to notice patterns of behavior by some posters that indirectly claim ownership of threads and such. You are no different than Gator fans posting on Seminole stories. Happens a lot of places where opposing fans go at each other. We could care less about pulling out every stat or ranking imaginable just to prove where a team stands. If you can't produce on the field or court, who cares? And the way you attempt to compare yourselves one would think BYU is in the Pac 12. Thought y'all belong to that bush league wcc.

  • sportsfanforlife salt lake city, UT
    Feb. 4, 2012 12:21 p.m.

    duckhunter your exactly what i expsed you to be, a clueless, delusional, non-factual, never touched a field or court, couch potato. hows your moms couch feelin?

  • sportsfanforlife salt lake city, UT
    Feb. 4, 2012 12:18 p.m.

    #duckhunter thats funny that you just are so delusional its not even funny. in fact ive never been a utah basketball fan. let me repeat cause i know how imcompetant you are... NEVER been a utah basketball fan. in fact duckhunter IF you could read i stated in a different post the my cousin number "23" plays for washington actually known as arguably one of the best shooters in college basketball. next time know the facts before you make yourself look foolish. but i guess you used to doin that right ducky?? haha you are so delusional its hilarious. and i would actually love for you to post where i made the comment that im a utah "fan" hahahaha oh wait...


  • sportsfanforlife salt lake city, UT
    Feb. 4, 2012 12:13 p.m.

    hahahaha look at all these emotional cougar fans just swearing the wcc is just way better than the pac. STOP FOOLING YOURSELVES. "washington fans should never talk about gonzaga" really? thats weird i coulda sworn over the past years washington has made it farther than any team in the wcc or mwc. i love how all you delusional fans still use the mwc like your still a part of it. fact is they want NOTHING TO DO THE TERRIBLY PATHETIC WCC YOU LOST TO LMU... AT HOME hahaha yuou cougar fans are the most delusional fans on this planet. conference full of cupcakes? hahahaha YOU'RE IN THE WCC you wanna talkj about full of cupcakes?? haha get a clue y fans. your school and conference are pathetic. wake me when someone from the wcc accomplishes anything close to anyone in the pac. i'll be sleep a long time. laughing in my sleep as well hahahahaha

  • Riddles in the Dark Olympus Cove, Utah
    Feb. 4, 2012 9:35 a.m.


    Things must be really slow in Gator country for a Seminole to be chiming in about the WCC at 1:21 am -- more than likely, a local Utah troll too embarrassed by that mess on the hill to want to admit any association with the rundown Utes.

  • SportsFan Orem, UT
    Feb. 4, 2012 1:32 a.m.


    LMU beat UCLA at UCLA.

    The Top 3 teams in the WCC would be the Top 3 teams in the PAC 12.

    Latest RPI Rankings

    #19 Gonzaga
    #22 Saint Mary's
    #38 BYU

    #42 Cal
    #63 Wash
    #76 Ariz

    mediocre teams are forced to hide behind the skirts of their conference, because they're too embarrassed to actually compare their programs mano-a-mano

    it's laughable that a supposed "seminole" from Florida would even get involved in the discussion

  • Seminolebob JACKSONVILLE, FL
    Feb. 3, 2012 11:21 p.m.

    Speaking of cup cakes. You lost to LMU at home McNasty. Look at your own conference. 3/4 of it is cup cakes.

  • Striker Omaha, NE
    Feb. 3, 2012 8:16 p.m.

    Pretty sure BYU is 2-0 vs. the PAC. Both away from Provo and both destruction of the other team. BYU may have even won that conference this year!

    Fun game! Enjoyed watching from Nebraska on the internet.

  • Serenity Now Highland, UT
    Feb. 3, 2012 5:47 p.m.

    Dave Rose's record in February is extremely good, so I like BYU's chances of getting an at-large bid.
    Anson Winder is turning into a defensive specialist, ala Jackson. Keep up the defensive focus--the team has plenty of scorers.
    Carlino has star potential but he shouldn't have the constant green light to shoot like Jimmer had his last 2 years--keep driving to the hole.
    Even though it'll hurt to lose Hartsock and Abuou after this year, we've got Tyler Haws coming back and the JC transfer (Delgado). The guard play should improve, but the front court needs more guys to step up next year (Collinsworth, Roger and possibly Harrison at wing), to join Davies and Austin, who should only get better with time.
    It's great to be a Y fan!

  • LonestarRunner Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 3, 2012 5:47 p.m.

    Latest RPI Rankings

    #19 Gonzaga
    #22 Saint Mary's
    #38 BYU
    #42 Cal
    #63 Wash
    #76 Ariz

    #83 Weber St
    #138 Utah St
    #231 So Utah
    #249 Utah Valley
    #263 Utah

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Feb. 3, 2012 5:35 p.m.


    Ahhhhh.......now you are a wahsington "fan". Funny but you have been a huge utah "fan" for the last several months and in just the signing day threads you proclaim it over and over again. So in reality you are not a fan of anyone. You are exactly what I have exposed you to be over and over again. You are a "fan". You just go with whatever team is doing well at the time. Pathetic but pretty common actually for a utah "fan". My guess is you'll be a "fan" of some other team next.


  • NevadaCoug Overton, NV
    Feb. 3, 2012 4:28 p.m.

    Funny that people are knocking the WCC because the conference isn't top 10 in RPI. Okay, so they are 11th. And look who is number 10: the Pac-12. There is one reason the Pac-12 is ranked ahead of the WCC: bias towards "Big 6" conferences that causes their teams to be over valued.

    So BYU is supposed to get no credit for beating a team like, say, Santa Clara. Well let's put it this way. Have you heard of a team called New Mexico? A team most people say is going to the Tournament?

    Winless in conference Santa Clara beat them.

    It isn't as easy as you think, folks. Stop buying in to the "Big 6" bias. There really are people out there who are still crazy enough to think a win over Utah holds more value than a win over a team like Santa Clara just because of the conference each plays in; when, if those two played each other, my money would be on the WCC team all the way.

  • jarka-rus Layton, Utah
    Feb. 3, 2012 3:38 p.m.


    Of course let's bring out the sagarin bible, then why isn't Cal ranked? Yet Gonzaga is. Let's hear the Pac spin.

  • Rational Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 3, 2012 3:08 p.m.

    salt lake city, UT
    jarka-rus i love hearing you spout just emotional funny comments like "gonzaga is 10x better than any pac team" hahahaha


    You are right, and jarka-rus is wrong.

    Gonzaga isn't 10x better than [every] pac team. According to Sagarin, Gonzaga is the 30th best team in the country. Cal is 26th. The next ten teams are 46 - 205. Utah is 299th. So, Gonzaga isn't 10x better than "any" pac team, just one.

  • jarka-rus Layton, Utah
    Feb. 3, 2012 2:29 p.m.


    Boy, I was going to respond to your ramblings but I wouldn't have said it any better than macnasty, blauch and factcheck and I am loving their responses. I was exaggerating a bit on the Zags being a huge powerhouse, no I admit I haven't seen any other of their games, but as was said, they could easily beat and have any Pac team, especially the Huskers. So nice try, your smack comments are also quite funny.

  • factcheck Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 3, 2012 2:09 p.m.

    Hey sportsfanforlife

    I am sure you are proud of CJ, but WA is not very good. That huge 4 pt win over the Utes was awesome. How about that 6 point beatdown the Huskies put on ASU. LOL. (You do realize ASU lost to Northern Arizona...at home!)My favorite WA game was the 19 point loss at home to South Dakota State. Now that is a powerhouse.

    By the way jarka-rus may have exaggerated saying Gonzaga is 10X better than any PAC12 team, but if BYU, SMU and Gonzaga were in the PAC 12, they would be 1,2,3 on top of the standings.

  • blauch Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 3, 2012 1:58 p.m.


    Washington Fans should never talk smack about Gonzaga. You just sound sad. Washington and Gonzaga long standing series with each other and the Zags beat Washington 8 out of their last 10 games. Washington quit the series about 5 years ago. Washington now says they will play the Zags at a Neutral Site (at a stadium that is 5 miles away from their campus but they won't play a road game against Gonzaga. Really - Washington is just Chicken.

  • MacNasty Rexburg, ID
    Feb. 3, 2012 1:16 p.m.


    Thanks for following BYU articles. Thanks for telling us you are a Washington fan. What a bummer it must be for you to be part of a whole conference of cupcakes this year.

    The WCC has two teams in the top 25 and the PAC has none. In fact, no PAC teams even received votes in the AP rankings this week.

    Washington did manage to beat a pathetic Ute team by a whopping 4 points, so there is that feather in your cap; albeit a very tiny feather. Congrats on your current 8-2 record in the PAC conference. Believe it or not, Washington might win the PAC, so root for them; you might think about posting something positive on one of their articles. I know you can do it. You will feel so much better.

    Have a nice day!

  • sportsfanforlife salt lake city, UT
    Feb. 3, 2012 12:40 p.m.

    jarka-rus i love hearing you spout just emotional funny comments like "gonzaga is 10x better than any pac team" hahahaha. gonzaga showed last night they are not the team everyone thinks they are. have you ever even watched them play besides last night? yeah didnt think so.you obviously have no knowledge to the game so from now on any comment you make just gets laughed at. thank you for the entertainment for the day.

    @jazzledazzle thats funny.. i didnt know i was a ute basketball fan. i coulda sworn on more than about 5 or 6 posts that my cousin plays for washington and that i clearly root for WASHINGTON. hahaha leave it to y fans to just say anything they feel even if its FAR from the truth. just a typical y fan.

  • TJ Eagle Mountain, UT
    Feb. 3, 2012 11:02 a.m.

    This takes a little pressure off but unless BYU wins the rest of their conference games, they will have to win the WCC tourney to be a lock. They can lose a game in the tourney and still get in if they win out. They could be very dangerous in the tourney if they can shoot 35% from 3 land like they did the first half of the season. They definitely need Rogers back.

  • Nikon Guy Henderson, NV
    Feb. 3, 2012 10:07 a.m.

    Great win! This is a solid win that should help them out and possibily boost their RPI rating. I don't mean to sound like a pessimist but even with this win I still feel BYU needs finish 6-0 in their last six games. That means they have to beat Gonzaga again. A slip-up against a Portland or Santa Clara will spell doom for an at-large, which are both 8-14 teams and at the basement in the standings. Their is little room for error especially with this conference, which tradionally gets 1-2 bids. The second bid is mostly due to a WCC tourney win.

    Their resume just doesn't look stong enough to warrant an at-large. Sure they may have 19 wins but the wins came mostly against cupcakes. Losing to a USU, Baylor, Wisconsin, twice to St. Mary's and LMU isn't a solid resume. The win against Va Tech doesn't look as good once you look underneath the surface (second to last and 1-6 in conference play!) Although the win against Gonzaga and Oregon look pretty good, I still feel it doens't balance out the losses to the really good ranked teams (Baylor, St. Mary's and Wisconsin)

    This is a good reason why BYU's shouldn't have moved to the WCC. The WCC just isn't strong enough from top to bottom. Because BYU didn't do as well as hoped in non-conference play, they now have to suddenly make up for it in conference play. Playing the likes of San Fransico and LMU will only drag down the RPI. Also, there just aren't enough chances for BYU to improve their resume or RPI. The WCC isn't even a top 10 conference. At least in the MWC, BYU could've have a case especially since the MWC is 5th in the country. Gonzaga and St. Mary's are the only chances. Goodness! the WCC doesn't even have their own column in ESPN's bubble watch. The WCC is listed as "other". Anyway, go Cougs!

  • MiP Iowa City, IA
    Feb. 3, 2012 10:05 a.m.

    bYU remains on the bubble, but IF they can win in Spokane, the bubble would shift to Gonzaga, assuming BYU can win their other games. For an NCAA tourney bid, BYU does not want it to come down to winning the conference tournament.

    "I understand booing a bad call, but throwing stuff on the floor is just really low class -- something I would expect from another school, not BYU."

    Yeah, it happened, and it won't be the last time. But something tells me you'll still continue to believe (and you won't be alone I assure you) that BYU fans are "above" such things in the future. That those types of behaviors will only occur at other schools. Just keep telling yourself that.

  • BigRich Orem, UT
    Feb. 3, 2012 9:51 a.m.

    No one is blaming the refs from Gonzaga's side. 15 first half turnovers did them in. At one point in the second half, the Zags were up 8 to 1 on fouls over BYU. So the calls were favoring GU. What won the game was BYU's defense. GU was hardly able to run their sets. And the crowd was great. Fun to be there.

  • jarka-rus Layton, Utah
    Feb. 3, 2012 9:45 a.m.

    Huge win! Great job Cougs. Way to dig deep after a bad loss. Even with the bad refs, they still came out on top of a very good WCC team. Gonzaga is 10 x better than any Pac team that is for sure.

    Scott Bogus

    "their blamed for....."

    Hang in "their" little band of fails. ha ha

  • Jazzledazzle Provo, UT
    Feb. 3, 2012 9:34 a.m.


    Sounds like a bitter Utes fan who's basketball team couldn't beat the Provo High School JV team.

  • Two Cents Springville, Utah
    Feb. 3, 2012 9:19 a.m.

    That was an exciting game to watch. Way to go, Cougars! Carlino made some great baskets, as did Hartsock and Davies. And the team defense was phenomenal. Tons of steals and tight coverage on D helped make this intense from start to finish.

  • Where's Stockton ??? Bowling Green, OH
    Feb. 3, 2012 9:16 a.m.

    Despite all the hot wind coming off the hill... when are the utes at least going to learn how to tie thier own shoes...let alone actually learn the game...but then again if the shoe doestn't fit....

  • Rational Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 3, 2012 8:46 a.m.

    Glad the Cougars finally learned that a made two-pointer is worth more than a missed three, and stopped casting up so many threes.

  • metamoracoug metamora, IL
    Feb. 3, 2012 8:00 a.m.

    sportsfanforlife said: "byu should be thanking the refs for that one. that was pathetic officiating"

    You'll need to explain this one to me. Zags got the the line 28 times while the cougs were there only 17. While there was some inconsistency -- I thought -- in calling ticky tack fouls one minute and letting really physical play go unnoticed, I thought overall it was pretty well done by the refs.

  • metamoracoug metamora, IL
    Feb. 3, 2012 7:53 a.m.

    CougfaninTX said: "Lastly, the exchange between the two coaches after the game was nothing but class."

    I observed that too. It was great to see that kind of exchange between to great coaches. I was also glad that the student section showed a little more class last night. I understand booing a bad call, but throwing stuff on the floor is just really low class -- something I would expect from another school, not BYU.

  • agb Layton, UT
    Feb. 3, 2012 7:38 a.m.

    Scott Farcus:

    Just out of curiosity what happened to the team on the hill last night? They had they lead in the second half they won right?

    Oh they didn't? Man. Too bad.

    Hang in there lil band of transfers.


  • Scott Farcus Beaver, UT
    Feb. 3, 2012 7:22 a.m.

    Im surprised the Cougs aren't blaming the officials for the win!

    Their blamed for everything else!

    Band of Lil Brothers in the WCC

  • Hawkeye79 Iowa City, IA
    Feb. 3, 2012 7:09 a.m.

    Great win by the Cougars! It was great to see everyone come out playing so tough, but especially Winder, who seemed to change the game's tempo when it was needed.

  • BigCougFan Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Feb. 3, 2012 7:07 a.m.

    nice win Cougs! Let's build on this one and win out the season so we can go to the big dance.

  • Mmhintze West Jordan, UT
    Feb. 3, 2012 6:48 a.m.

    That's odd. I could have sworn the scoreboard said 83 - 73 at the final buzzer.

  • agb Layton, UT
    Feb. 3, 2012 6:46 a.m.

    A win is a win but the only reason our abysmal 3 point shooting didn't come back to bite us is because Gonzaga was even worse from 3.

    But the intensity and execution picked up immensely from the other night.

    Go Cougs.

  • Rick2009 MESA, AZ
    Feb. 3, 2012 5:25 a.m.

    So Rose says "They played with real urgency and great effort. Our effort was extreme all night. That was our focus." Does that mean it usually isn't, or just what? I am glad they won this game but what happened last Saturday. Hartsock says "The coaches got our minds ready for this game,...We were focused and dialed in tonight." So why can't you guys stay dialed in game after game?

  • sportsfanforlife salt lake city, UT
    Feb. 3, 2012 1:03 a.m.

    byu should be thanking the refs for that one. that was pathetic officiating

  • don17 Temecula, CA
    Feb. 3, 2012 12:10 a.m.

    Much better game than a few of the ones the Cougars had last week. Even though the three point shoot is still elusive the Guards did play much better today. The two point shots were going down and 20 assists. Way to go! Boy wouldn't winning out the season make a shot at the Tourney much more likely! Way to go Student Body! You all were fired up in the Marriott Center. That's the type of game that reminds you of the days of Ainge, Craig, Kite, Trumbo and Roberts playing at the Y.

  • CougFaninTX Frisco, TX
    Feb. 2, 2012 11:57 p.m.

    Cougs looked solid tonight. They are finding ways to compensate for their lack of long range shooting. Hartsock and Davies continue to be the anchor. I really liked how Carlino pushed the ball and drove to the basket. Winder may be the best perimeter defender of them all. Harrison did not play a lot, but I thought he was more productive than he's been in most games.

    Still hoping Rogers recovers by tournament time. He was such a spark off the bench.

    Other than Coug fans, nobody was cheering louder for a BYU victory than St Marys. BYU's win over the Zags essentially gives the regular season crown to St Marys. The battle is now for 2nd place between the Zags and Cougs. If the Cougs can steal one in Spokane, they should have a lock on 2nd place which should put them back in the conversation to go dancing.

    It's very likely that BYU and Gonzaga will also meet up in the WCC tourney. Three games against each other in about one month could be the beginnings of a great rivalry.

    Lastly, the exchange between the two coaches after the game was nothing but class.

  • AZ Blue & Red Gilbert, AZ
    Feb. 2, 2012 11:52 p.m.

    Thought it was 83 73 not 88 73?

  • BlueCoug Orem, UT
    Feb. 2, 2012 11:38 p.m.

    Congrats Cougars on a nice comeback win over a Top 25 team!