The "power pups" are waiting in the wings. Jefferson and Harris are
definitely dead wood. Maybe, Tinsley should be givew more opoortunity to see
what he has to offer.
what about Ray Allen/Rondo/Wilcox for AJ/Harris and a pick?
With Tinsley playing the way he did, and Earl playing the way he is, it ought to
make things interesting at the point guard position. I looked around at
possible point guards that the Jazz could realistically get if they made a
trade. Here is what I found:Jarrett JackGary NealKyle
LowryMo WilliamsMike ConleyGoran DragicShannon BrownI like Jarrett Jack's game a lot, and I Gary Neal is a great shooter. I
would really like a pass first point guard. I hate to go after Harris, I just
don't think he fits our system. I think the Jazz should bring him off the bench
as a scorer, rather than the starting point guard. We will see what happens.
After watching Tinsley play my though is start him. I like Earl, but he really
is better running the second team. The Jazz bench is more athletic and better
suited to a run and gun style game that Watson is very effective at running.
Tinsley is more of an old school half court PG, which fits much better into the
games of guys like Big Al, Millsap and Hayward. Let Harris sit on the end of the
bench. That's all his play deserves.....
It was good to see a true point guard running the offense with the starters. I
hope we see alot more of Tinsley. The second unit really struggled
without Earl Watson. We really need him back to lead the "youngins"
They were kind of lost without their leader last night.Milsap and
Jefferson seemed to tired to box out last night. Maybe more of Kanter could help
on these kind of nights when the starters are slacking? He is a beast boxing out
and pulling rebounds off the glass.
Talking about trading Jefferson is not a good idea. He may be the most dominant
post player in the league. I have also seen him improving on defense and
passing the ball. He would have a lot more assists each game if our guys would
make their jumpers. In one game, Tinsley played almost as many
minutes as he played all season. By the end of the third quarter, he was
exhausted and was no longer effective on defense. Everyone was tired, and it
really took its toll. This is probably the hardest duo of guards to defend in
the NBA, and they showed it. I am getting a little nervous that we have lost 4
of our last 5 games. If we are to trade Harris, it had better be a
really good deal. I say that because as poorly as he plays, we are still a
pretty good team with good chemistry. We risk disrupting that with a trade. I
say keep Harris and let our young team develop. Save the trade drama for the
@ Old TimerYour comment about CJ is right on. He is inconsistant.
This loss needs to be forgotten about. The Lakers roll in tomorrow and we don't
want to lose to them at home again. Go Jazz. Beat L.A.
Hold on everyone the Clippers were blown out too! I believe both teams played
there guts out the night before and where just spent from last night. I agree
Tinsley deserves PT. We also need some or a good outside shooter (there just
isn't any 3pt shooters or any pick and pop). Also I listen to the TNT Analysts
and Charles said that this team has a bright future (that's getting old), and
Shaq says that the Jazz will be "will be dangerous in the West". I
really didn't think that this team would be where it is right now, and now that
the road games start well we will see.
This was merely a loss by a young team that had played 2 intense effort filled
games the previous 3 days (Port & Clips). Nothing to get super negative
about however. C.J. merely showed what he is quite
frankly-"inconsistent" and Jefferson once again showed lack of
rebounding and defense for minutes played. Our perimeter defense will have to
improve this year or we will never be a serious contender in the future. Bounce
back men and forget all of this negative media crap about playing on the road,
afterall the basket is the same ht, the floor the same dimensions everywhere and
the kind of money you guys make you shouldn't have to have a crowd to inspire
you. In fact when I played I liked the challenge of beating someone at their
place. Good luck.
Tinsley reminded us of how a pure point guard passes the ball. Congrats Jamaal,
you played well. I am happy for him.
The Jazz towards the end of this game ran out of gas. The Jazz and Clippers
played the most intense game I've this this year the night before, both traveled
to California and played a back to back, and the Clippers got beat at home by
Denver while the Jazz were losing on the road to the Warriors. I think that
Clipper game really took a lot out of both teams and neither could play with the
same intensity last night. Hopefully the Jazz can get more rested for the Laker
game on Saturday.Tinsley looked good, but that goes to show how weak
we are at the point guard. We're not getting strong point guard play this year
so I could probably play the point for the Jazz and seem like an upgrade. We
need to go out and use our Memo exception and make some kind of trade for a big
time point guard that will make this team a legitimate playoff contender.
I know it's not much of an excuse, but the Jazz big's looked exhausted
throughout the game. I'm not sure why Corbin left that group on the floor for so
long. If any of our players got the green light that David Lee has, or even Al
Jefferson, they would score bunches. Jefferson, Millsap, and C J looked like
they would have rather sat the game out. All three of them were bent over
pulling on their shorts throughout the final half. I thought the winners tonight
were Hayward, and Tinsley, and maybe even Burks. Favors did nothing when he was
in, looking as flat footed as the rest. Kanter played well again! Remember this
kid broke Dirk Nowitzki's Nike Hoop Summit records in scoring. He has a very
fine 15 ft jumper, and soft hands. I would rather see them use him as a starter
with Millsap. Paul is far less effective when Jefferson demands the ball. Kanter
also covers AJ's defensive problems. Play Jefferson and Favors together. I think last nights play will guarantee the contract of Tinsley, (they
have until the 10th)and may even heighten the trade possibilities of Harris. How
about a AJ,Harris trade, for an established point guard, and a shooter.
Call me crazy but start this guy. He ran the offense well, and we have not seen
passes like that in a while. Use Earl and Jamaal, and then bring Devin off the
bench for 20 mins a game. Great job Jamaal. He was the only bright spot
though, we need to crash the boards.
this is where the playoff dreams start to shatter for us...i hope they could
pull it together...i still think we are a better team than that...maybe trade
harris for Dragic plus a pick?
Dare I say we should trade CJ and Harris for a decent shooter and keep Tinsley
and Watson for our point guards? You never see the kind of passing that Tinsley
did tonight when Harris is in the game. I was impressed.
Jody, I think your the best you know that. However, how long the Media for this
paper continues to ignore the 3 point Shooting Defense, we will always have this
conversation. Tonight badly outscored on "3s" again. Tinsley played
his heart out. He has shown great attitude and perserverance through these
tough times for him. A former decent starter going to D league and then 12th
man. If everybody tonight showed the same heart. He of course cannot stay on
Ellis or Curry chest because would blow by him. Still he and Gordon and Josh
were the only ones worth discussing. You are dismissing too easily the fact GS
had hardly been beating ANYONE. The Jazz were outhustled and outworked tonight.
We were beaten on the Offensive Boards. Ty combinations tonight very
questionable. CJ was on the Court, and effective GORDON RESTING, the game went
from 75-75 to 18-2 RUN AND 93-77 Lead.
Yes, Tinsley played very well -- 13 assists! How long since we've seen a Jazz
point guard do that??!!! Jazz should definitely keep him.And yes,
the Warrior super guards destroyed the Jazz, but . . . I want to comment on the
rebounding: Warriors got 22 OFFENSIVE rebounds . . . 22! Forty-seven
altogether, so almost half were off their own boards! Where were our bigs?? I
will just note that Al got 6 rebounds -- total -- in 32 minutes, while Kanter
pulled down 5 in half that time . . . . Come on, Al -- block out and jump, for
crying out loud!