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He isn't an adult so you can't try him as one. Just because you want to doesn't mean you can.
@SundanceKid27
Yes you can. Certain felonies (such as conspiracy to commit mass murder) allow juveniles as young as 14 to be tried as adults, if the prosecution can prove he has sufficient understanding.
If you don't like the law, get it changed. But yes, he can be lawfully tried as an adult.
How can newspapers print name / pictures of a minor who has allegedly committed a crime? I thought if he / she was under 18 they didn't use a name? Could someone explain?
commit an adult crime .... do adult time
This case will be thrown out of court. No bomb was used, no evidence that a bonb was being built. Just spending too much time on a flight simulator.
Sound to me like they must have enough to want to charge him as an adult, and I do agree with one of the post about the law to try them as adult for the charges against him. I hope that they will get a fair trial and the case not tried in the newspaper. They do need to be held accountable for their actions and if it means going to prison for a long time if they are found guilty so be it. If you can't do the time don't do the crime.
You can try certain juveniles for certain crimes as adults, but the reasoning in this case seems especially flimsy, suspect, and unknowable at this point(he was well-adjusted at home?).
Also, the article is flawed in asserting that the juvenile told the resource "officer" what is stated. This is what the resource officer alleges and is complete hearsay. Resource officers (those stationed at schools) have been known to lie, lets just say that without getting into specifics.
This is a media over-reaction. What they did probably should be a crime, but there is no weapon, there is no logistical fulfillment. At this point, it could be argued that it was an outlet fantasy that these boys had in response to pressures they faced. I knew a few guys who were fascinated with explosives in high school but they never ended up hurting anybody. If this guy had made some logistical fulfillments for his plan/fantasy, then I would be more inclined to say there is substantial reasoning to try him as an adult.
If the preponderance of evidence can be demonstrated that there was a conspiracy to commit this crime they will be tried for "Conspiracy to Commit Mass Murder" or something similar. If the younger boy can be certified as an adult and if he is found guilty it will be time in prison. The 18 year old boy is already considered an adult and could go to prison.
This was not "just spending too much time on a flight simulator". Other evidence suggest a consipracy to commit a crime of drastic and devestating proportions. Conspiring to do such a thing is in and of itself a crime one can go to prison over. It is amazing that some people suggest no crime has been committed.
Thanks to some brave student(s)coming forth and reporting what they have seen as a danger to others a dastardly crime was stopped.
He may not have produced a bomb, but there are several concrete actions that show this guy was not just talking the talk. I am so glad to hear of his arrest and look forward to his day in court.
Im sure he knew what his Intentions were,not a bright way of thought very evil!
Yes the kid was stupid, and if he HAD a bomb maybe he would have used it. But they didn't. So try them as juveniles for what? For NOT possessing a bomb?
I'm not sure what to do here. But the punishment should fit the crime. No bombs, no bomb making materials, nobody was hurt.
There is no crime here. No crime was committed. Since it isn't a crime to be stupid, I'm not sure what the prosecution expects to get here.
I know my opinion isn't going to be popular, because the mob mentality is to judge this kid guilty, but show me any evidence that this was going to happen beyond talking about it.
After the movie "independence day" was released many years ago how many people talked about blowing up the white house (a scene from the movie). Would those people not be guilty of the same crime?
Planning mass murder is not protected speech and is a prosecutable crime. If these kids hd been of another ethnic origin there would be no boys will be boys attitude. You would just call them terrorists. Since kids in the suburbs did this then it is no big deal to spme of you. Prosecute all those who carry out these crimes.
These boys did not carry out the crimes, these boys are being charged with crimes they have not/did not committ. No WMD were found, how can one be charged with use of WMD when they were not used. This is bogus.
Why are we becoming a precrime state?
Re: SundanceKid27 | 11:50 a.m. Jan. 31, 2012
"He isn't an adult so you can't try him as one"
Lionel Alexander Tate was 14-years old when he was convicted of murder in adult court in 1987. He is currently serving a 30-year sentence after his original sentence to life without parole was overturned.
People who conspire to kill school children need to be separated from decent society ..... in adult prisons.
Serious charges!
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