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Published: Monday, Jan. 30 2012 5:30 p.m. MST

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Oh My Heck!
Vernal, UT

I'm sorry to hear of this. I am not familiar with this particular situation, but I do know that it happens. My now-23-year-old son dropped out of school at the beginning of his freshman year, and instead of going to school he was accepted at Arizona Project Challenge, which is operated by the National Guard for students who are at risk, but not yet in legal trouble. He had no legal trouble, but hated school, had problems with the teachers more than the kids, and had a principal who told him he was worthless, and that he (principal) would not hire him to haul his garbage. We lived in Nevada, which had an arrangement with AZPC, thankfully, because it was a good experience for him. He got his GED, plus 5 college credits, and is now married with 3 children, he's in the Army and is deployed to Afghanistan right now.

It is inexcusable for teachers, principals, and other school personnel to have any part in bullying a student, or allowing it to happen. I'm sorry for your loss, and wish you well.

SME
Kearns, UT

"There are policies in place and those policies are followed by our administrators. Our administrators are trained to address complaints as they come to them."

I beleive there are policies in place, that they are followed and complaints are addressed I do not believe. From my experience school administrators just want problems to go away. They don't want to actually deal with them. The coach's (alleged) comment is inexcusable.

Trooper55
Williams, AZ

I am not from Utah, from another state I don't know if these charges are true, but if the school system during the trial is found guilty, the I believe heads must roll and some people should lose their jobs and their penision if the charges are true. I have seen cases such this one before I reired from the Law Enforcement. It's a shame a young man took his life, my heart goes out to the parents. Bullying and the partice of bullying such be handle in the proper manner, not like the prinical at the jr. high stated about leaveing them that dosen't correct the problem.

Pagan
Salt Lake City, UT

**'Boy, 15, reprimanded for backing traditional family in school paper' - By Joshua Bolding, Deseret News - 01/27/12

'He (Wegner) also quoted scriptures like Leviticus 20:13: "If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death...' article

Rifleman
Salt Lake City, Utah

Re: Pagan | 9:14 a.m. Feb. 1, 2012

Your cut and pastes regarding this story don't make sense. What point are you trying to make. Is there some problem for a 15-year old young man speaking out in favor of traditional families?

Pagan
Salt Lake City, UT

'Is there some problem for a 15-year old young man speaking out in favor of traditional families?' - Rifleman | 6:10 a.m. Feb. 3, 2012

Let me post this again:

**'Boy, 15, reprimanded for backing traditional family in school paper' - By Joshua Bolding, Deseret News - 01/27/12

'He (Wegner) also quoted scriptures like Leviticus 20:13: "If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death...' - article

Now, let me reply to a question, with a question. (I know, I hate this.)

Is there a problem, with telling a child, they are going to die for being gay?

How would you feel, if I said this to you? For being 'Rifelman?'

Your wife?

Your...daughter?

When you direct this same type of treatment to yourself...

you will understand.

To support this:

**'Teens gay or straight more likely to attempt suicide in conservative towns' - By LINDSEY TANNER - Medical Writer - AP - 04/18/11

'CHICAGO Suicide attempts by gay teens and even straight kids are more common in politically conservative areas where schools don't have programs supporting gay rights...' - article

Rifleman
Salt Lake City, Utah

Re: Pagan | 11:55 a.m. Feb. 3, 2012
"Boy, 15, reprimanded for backing traditional family in school paper"

There is a problem supporting traditional families in a school paper?
There is something wrong with having an opinion that isn't "Politically Correct"?
Sounds like the thought police are alive and well.

Pagan
Salt Lake City, UT

'There is a problem supporting traditional families in a school paper?
There is something wrong with having an opinion that isn't "Politically Correct"?
Sounds like the thought police are alive and well.' - Rifleman | 12:27 p.m. Feb. 3, 2012

2 questions...

and one, sentence.

Not very much of a reply.

However, let's look at the 'thought police', shall we?

**'Gay man says 'reversal' therapy did not change him' - By Lisa Leff - Associated Press - Published by DSNews - 01/20/10

'SAN FRANCISCO A gay man testified Wednesday in a federal same-sex marriage trial that the "reversal therapy" he underwent as a teenager to change his sexual orientation drove him to the brink of suicide.' - article

***Survey links gay suicides to religious message - BY KRISTEN MOULTON SL TRIBUNE 02/17/11

***'Teens - gay or straight - more likely to attempt suicide in conservative towns' - By LINDSEY TANNER - Medical Writer - AP - 04/18/11

You cannot say there is no connection.

So, you didn't say anything.

Rifleman
Salt Lake City, Utah

Re: Pagan | 1:31 p.m. Feb. 3, 2012

The comment from "atl134 | 5:13 p.m. Jan. 27, 2012" in the original story sums it up best so I'll quote him: "Okay this is really stupid. He was given the assignment of writing the anti-adoption op-ed alongside the pro-adoption op-ed, so it's his fault he wrote about what he was told to write about?"

The folks in San Francisco preach tolerance ..... but offer none themselves.

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