This project is going to put Salt Lake City on the map to compete with the rest
of the western cities in so many ways. I am looking forward to it's opening.
Fitting that this project, which has and will continue to have a huge impact on
SLC, opens in Spring.
I look forward to visiting the Center shortly after it's opening. It was a
smart move to schedule the opening in mid/late March. I'm sure it will be packed
during April conference.
Okay I still do not get how the LDS church got the money to build this mall.
Members who I have talked to say no tithing money was used so where did they get
the billions of dollars to build it?
Re: shaun_ | 8:34 p.m. Jan. 28, 2012 "so where did they get the
billions of dollars to build it?"Funding came from the taxable
commercial arm of the LDS Church. Just one example is Deseret Ranches which is
the largest cow-calf ranch in the United States. It is 450 square miles in
size, and is a for profit operation that is not a normal part of the
humanitarian efforts of the LDS Church.I thought everybody
understood that tithing funds cannot be used in commercial ventures.
In my opinion the church is doing a great thing to revitalize downtown and I'm
very excited to see the mall. I like many others would like to see a change in
the priorities of church spending. This is what order I would prefer.1.
Church/temple building and operations(including janitors for buildings, members
already donate enough time)2. International Humanitarian aid.(this mall
cost double the amount of money the church has donated over the last 30 years)
the led church could almost stop starvation in afrixa with its funds.3.
Missionary work4. education
I must admit, City Creek is well-done. I applaud the LDS church for their
coordination of this project. Integrating living with business and commercial
interests right downtown is ingenuous.This project has had a huge
impact on the Utah economy during a very difficult time, nationally.
My only concern is traffic flow. As one who comes into downtown from the north
frequently, I've noticed traveling from the Capital to 100 South keeps taking
longer and longer. TRAX and the closing of Main Street have had huge impacts on
congestion in this area, and we've done little to deal with existing traffic
issues, let alone, the additional traffic issues that will arise with more
business and more residents in City Creek.I support City Creek and
public transportation, and the Main Street Plaza is beautiful. But sooner or
later, we're going to have to discuss traffic flow!
I don't understand the massive amounts of money expended for retail shopping
locations -- which simply says to the average person to spend-spend-spend, and
often to spend beyond means and to spend on credit -- both of which situations
have helped lead to the massive government and personal debts situations in this
country (as well as the copycat other nations of the world, who are in similar
dire straights from excessive borrowing). We simply cannot seem to differentiate
between 'spending for necessities' and 'spending for luxuries which are not
needs'. Our society simply preaches to spend, not matter on what, and no matter
if you have that money as totally 'disposable' when it is to be spent on
luxuries. (And I include as a luxury such things as upgrading the size of your
TV, your computer, your vehicle, your house, your wardrobe, your jewelry, when
you have fully functionable items already.)...just sayin' we are fixin' for
another crash if we don't learn nothin'...
@shaun,Back in the 1920's, a wealthy LDS benefactor contributed
moneys to an endowment for the LDS church. This endowment is a separate entity
from the Tithing side of the church. That endowment has been invested ever
since. They continue to grow that investment with projects like City Creek
Mall. This entity is a separate corporation of the church which makes profits
and pays TAXES like any other business in the US. Profits from this investment
pay the stipends that SOME LDS top leadership receive. Hence it's entirely true
that tithing does not pay stipends.
it takes revenue generating projects to fund many of the other activities that
the Church operates. why is it that the ones that don't think the church is
appropriately using revenues and tithing are usually the ones that don't
volunteer or tithe?bebot, I think that those running the affairs of the
church have a much better handle on what needs to be done and what the
priorities of the church should be. it isn't up to members or others to make