Mr. Gurney. A question. You said the instate battle is "about even"
this year. By my calculations, between the 3 recruiting sites, there are 14
different players listed in the Utah top 10. Of those 14, Utah will get 8, BYU
2 and 4 out of state. How exactly does an 80%/20% split equal "about
even?" Nice spin.
@williary A recruiting battle would indicate that both teams have offered the
same recruit. While the U of U may have more of the top 10 Utah prospects, did
BYU offer them as well? And I wouldn't count Zach Lindsay since his scholarship
was pulled by BYU after he committed to BYU.But this is Utah's best
recruiting class ever, congrats.
That's where this gets tricky. BYU has a solid reputation lately of
"pulling" scholarship offers when recruits decide they're not really
considering BYU. Ricky Heimuli, Harvey Langi, Manti Teo, Zack Lindsay, Moana
Ofaganague, the list goes on and on.Here are the facts that we know.
BYU has a very limited recruiting base. The largest base is the
state of Utah. To actually believe that they were only interested in 2 of the
top 14 players in their largest recruiting base, just not believable. The fact is that in their largest recruiting base, BYU has picked up commits
from less than 20% of the top players. Not a good sign. Even if they've
"pulled" schollies from kids who told them no thank you.
That's quite the statement "BYU has a solid reputation lately of
"pulling" scholarship offers when recruits decide they're not really
considering BYU" Lindsay wasn't wavering in his commitment, he simply
didn't meet certain requirements (A public forum is not the place to discuss
what requirements he didn't meet).Did Gurney say that BYU only
offered 2 of the top 14 Utah prospects? I've never heard nor said that.Have you looked at prior years? How does this 20% of the top players compare
to other years? I'll bet you haven't even looked. Or maybe you have, it seems
that you'd rather cheer against BYU first and be a "fan" of Utah 2nd.
I sure hope I'm wrongAnyways, congrats on the stellar recruiting
class (especially the Rivals site).
Utah's recruiting class is shaping to be the best recruiting class that any
school from the state Utah has ever had. Utah all ready has commitments from
five four star recruits. Furthermore, it has been reported that four star
recruit Brandon Fanaika is heavily considering decommitting from Stanford to go
to the Utes. Also, other four star recruits like Will Latu, Pio Vatuvei, Hiva
Lutui have high interest in Utah. I was expecting a boost in recruiting from
being in the Pac 12;however, I wasn't expecting recruiting to jump this
dramatically. Also, there has been a lot of hype around Tenny Palepoi. Not sure
what he is ranked, but I read that Utah is listed number on his list.
Furthermore, watch for solid three star recruits like Polo Manukainiu, Brandon
Marsh, Moana Ofahengaue, Carlos Lozano, and Raymond Ford to sign with the Utes.
i gotta go with williary on this one. utah pulled the better in state class
this year. we'll see what the future holds for these kids and how they shape up
though. best of luck to all of them.still wish utah could have
pulled troy hinds though.
Anyone know what Utah's scholarship limit is for this year? They are up to 23
commits, with, from what I've heard, at least a couple planning to grayshirt.
Ofahengaue is reportedly down to deciding between Arizona and Utah. Lutui down
to USC and Utah. Will Latu down to Oklahoma and Utah. I hope they land at least
one if not two out of the three corners Brandon Beaver, Alphonso Marsh and and
Ray Ford. Butters, BYU did get the best defensive player in the state in Hinds,
but if the Utes can get Manukainiu, I think that would more than make up for it.
Best case scenario, I would say we land 2 more OL, 2 CBs, a LB and a DL, which
would put us at 29 total, with the possibility of 2 or 3 not affecting us this
year due to grayshirts and missions. Exciting times, for sure!
@4D 5 four-star recruits? Is that what Rivals has? Scout only has 2 with 1 being
a JC guy. And Fanaika is not going to Utah, that made me laugh.But
"Utah's recruiting class is shaping to be the best recruiting class that
any school from the state Utah has ever had" made me laugh even harder.
Quit trying to brag before anything has happened. The state of Utah athletics
has nothing to do with you.
@ StGtoSLC No team from the state of Utah has ever had five four star recruits
in one recruiting class. You can verify that from all the recruiting websites.
Rivals has Kelvin York, Justin Thomas, Cedrick Poutasi, Visesio Salt, and Chase
Hansen as the five four star recruits. Like I said before, Utah is on the verge
of signing at least two more four star recruits. Its still impressive having
this amount four star recruits regardless of its rivals or scout. You have to
admit if the Y had a class like this you would be pretty happy. Brandon Fanika
is actually taking a recruitment trip to Utah this weekend. Tom Cella actually
talked to Fanika over this past weekend. Cella was on 1280 the zone today, and
Fanika told him that he was considering changing his decision.
4D you're preaching to the choir, it's SPgoofyft I think you were meaning to
direct that to.SPgoofyft: January 24 "Rivals250 offensive
lineman Brandon Fanaika committed to Stanford late last month during the
Offense-Defense Bowl, surprising almost nobody in the process. It had been
rumored for months leading up to the decision that Stanford was the clear-cut
leader, with Utah a close second. Fanaika had previously scheduled a trip to
Utah in January, and decided to honor that commitment this past weekend. Utah
rolled out the red carpet for the talented guard however, and things with
Stanford appear a bit murky now with only one week to go until National Signing
Day."Hope that catches you up to speed.
@SPgoofyft Utah's class probably is the greatest recruiting class ever from the
State (on paper). We all know you really can't judge a class until years after.
But, if you look through all 3 services (ESPN, Scout & Rivals), Utah
actually has 7 4 star recruits & is in the mix for a few more.
The star ratings really don't mean squat. There have been too many 'big' stars
fall and then a lot of 'little' stars that have risen beyond expectations. It
just depends on who the prognosticators like and how far they want to elevate
them. How many times have we heard Bronco (bYu), Kyle (UofU) and even Gary
(USU) say time and again that the star rankings are totally meaningless when it
comes to D1 ball.Those that really know the game and what is
required to succeed in D1 will never waste their time placing stars and ratings
on HS kids. Either they have "it" or they don't. College ball is a
ablackett23, if you count 247Sports as well, the total becomes 8.
If this year's recruiting class is any indication of how BYU will fare as an
independent, BYU should immediately beg Craig Thompson for membership in the
It's funny to listen to BYU fans today. Years ago when BYU's recruiting was
better than Utah's, all we heard about was how many stars so-and-so had, the
average star rating for the class, etc. Even when Jake Heaps walked into Iggy's
and walked out with a BYU hat, the DN boards were positively giddy with Y fans
letting us all know that Heaps was a five-star QB.Now that Utah is
cleaning up in recruiting - especially compared to BYU - what are the BYU fans
saying? "The star ratings really don't mean squat."As the
Church Lady used to say, how conveeeeeenient.
@BSRSame thing Utah fans said back then hahaha
@Butters:"still wish utah could have pulled troy hinds
though."Oh we still will - just ask Jake Murphy how that
Isn't this fun????
Top 10 signs your program is going "down hill":Honorable
mentions:-54-10-Independence10- The best keepsake
you have is a closet full of t-shirts with unfulfilled catch phrases9-
Robert Anae is the only coach you have that anyone nationally cares about -
woops, he was let go by Bronco8- Your sole 2008 4 star recruit now plays
for Utah (ouch!)7- Your highest profile recruit in over a decade is now
redshirting for Charlie Weiss!6- Your HUGE scheduling news: home and home
with .... East Carolina??5- 10-3 record with a strength of schedule
hovering at 1004- Dwindling players in the NFL - no Pro Bowler since .....
when?? (3 Utes this year!)3- November schedule, or lack thereof (as many
âbyesâ as actual games)2- BADLY losing in state recruiting to
bitterest of rivals 1- ESPN thinks your coach's name is Roscoe!!Great to be a Ute!!
Nice job Tom!!
VegasUte @ 12:41 p.m.:Haha! Very funny! Very, very funny!
When did Moby become a college football expert?
sorry StGtoSLCI, that was not intended for you. TizTheSeason I agree that there
are diamond in the rough types of recruits. Eric Weddle and Sean Smith were
those type of recruits for Utah. Additionally, there were recruits like Ben
Olsen and Jake Heaps that didn't live up to the stars. These types of cases are
more of a rarity. But my main point is that recruiting does matter. The past
five national champions had pretty legit recruiting classes the year they won
the title. Alabama # 1 in 2011, Auburn # 4 in 2010, Alabama # 1 in 2009, Florida
# 3 2008, Lsu # 4 2007, and Florida # 2 in 2006. TizTheSeason try telling
Auburn, Alabama, Florida, and Lsu star ratings really don't mean squat.
See my comments on "CBS Sports sizes up Y recruiting" Because I'm to
lazy to repost.
8 years ago byu wasn't winning every recruiting battle. When Mac showed up he
evened it up.
The NFL isn't going to back off of byu linemen because they're 25, the NFL is
backing off because they aren't good enough for the NFL. Coach em' up and
they'll make it in the NFL. It's that simple.