@one old man:"wrz -- will you invite me to your funeral and
then tell me my response was a bad one?"Your response was not
necessarily a bad one. But it begs the question... What about other
distractions while driving such as adjusting a radio nob, fiddling with a window
or visor, applying lip gloss, or dealing with several unruly kids in the back
seat? And more importantly, why not stop the real source of carnage
on the freeways, since most deaths are not from texting or using a cell phone?
Most deaths on freeways are caused by speeding, which the Highway Patrol
blatantly ignores.Oh, and yes, you are invited to the funeral. Will
you give the opening prayer?
Rocket Science & DEWLet me clear some facts up. I've driven with
CB and Commercial radios with mikes, and cell phone traveling over 1.5 million
miles. I've seen every kind of distraction on highways and streets in my over 40
plus years of driving. I figure that people would respond to certain comments,
which were bought into. I've seen were people fail to govern themselves so they
have to have laws to cause themselves do the right things. I watched the basic
rule of driving in Montana turned into a speed limit because of failed judgement
of people driving out of control because there was no speed limit. When I used
chewing gum and can't drive. The point is people fail to use good solid
judgement in there driving abilities. First and always is the business of
driving safely. Distractions are everywhere while driving. Today! I was looking
for an address on a very busy street in Colorado Springs. That is a distraction
and I was driving slower than posted speed limit. Using a quote from Dirty
Harry,"You got to know your limitations."
David King, I couldn't agree more. Well said!
@Pagan:"Please don't miniize them by claim(ing) we should 'just
accept' that people die."That's what the highway patrol does...
i.e., just accept that people die. There is no, nada, zero, effort on the part
of the Highway Patrol to stop speeders (and thus, deaths) by pulling them over
and giving them fat tickets.And, again, for your edification,
speeding is the chief cause of deaths on the freeways.Furthermore,
every driver that speeds is accepting that 'people just die.'
wrz -- will you invite me to your funeral and then tell me my response was a bad
Lawmakers should watch the episode of Mythbusters where they tested cell phone
use while driving vs drunk driving. They used the drivers license test course
in California in the city where the show is filmed. First they drove while
chatting on a cell phone. Then they repeated the course while talking technical
business on the phone that required more concentration. They repeated these with
hands free phones. Then the drank until they reached 0.08% blood alcohol and
repeated the course. The worst scores were for doing business on the phone, even
with hands free. The next worst scores were for chatting on the phone, even
with hands free. The best scores were for being intoxicated. Bottom line - do
not talk on a cell phone while driving, period.
'Why not just accept that there are going to always be deaths on the highways?'
- wrz | 11:48 a.m. Jan. 26, 2012 Because a human life...
has value. You, have value. Please don't miniize them by
claim we should 'just accept' that people die.
@one old man:"It won't be enough until adults are stopped from
talking and texting while driving."Yes, and there should be
laws against adjusting the car's radio dial while driving. In fact, radios
should be removed from vehicles altogether.You want to stop deaths
on the highways? Try enforcing speed limits. There's where statistics show
that most deaths occur. Why not just accept that there are going to
always be deaths on the highways? Speeding, texting, weaving in and out,
driving while tired/drowsy, etc. People die on highways, just get over it.
I believe that everybody who drives shouldn't talk on a cellphone, text, apply
make up, or read the newspaper while driving, that goes for all age groups not
just one. I have been to the scenes of auto accidents, and drunkdrivers, people
on the cellphone and along list of others distractions, were the cause. When are
people going to wake up and smell the coffee. I don't talk on the cellphone
while I am driving,but before I retired my 2 way radio I did use to commuate
with the dispatchers, to do my job and respond in a timely fashion. As a retired
Law Enforcement Officer I took alot of driving courses, so that I was able to be
a better driver and to handle my cruiser in a safe manner.
As much sense as this law makes we just as well add everything to it that can be
a distraction to driving such as...children, relatives, friends in
the vehicle. Other drivers in other cars, flashy advertising and billboards,
workers and pedestrians, immodest clothing, good looking people, not so good
looking people, pets, feral cats, wildlife, fast-food drive throughs such as
McDonalds, Burger King, Wendy's. Sonic can stay but the drive thru has to go.And the list goes on.Given enough time Obama can fix this
What happened to equal protection under the law? How can you apply a law to
only one group of people, and consider it just? Let's pretend for a moment that
white males between the ages of 20-30 had a disproportionate amount of serious
accidents involving cell-phone use. Could we write a law that only targets
them? There would be an outcry. Unfortunately, many teenagers don't get
involved in the political process, so it's easy to target them. My guess would
be is that my age group has just as many incidents involving distracted driving
as teenagers. If you're going to make a law that restricts liberty, it should
at least be applied equally to all people.On another note, what a
sad state of society if the only thing that keeps us from doing dangerous things
is more laws.
Let's punish kids for stuff we do too! That makes perfect sense!Wait... oh yeah, no it doesn't. lolAlthough I can't stand bills
that want to limit all cell phone usage. If one has SYNC or something, it's no
different than talking to someone in the car. People often say "yeah, well
you still have to hang up by pushing a button" which isn't true. You can
set it up to work around that with no problem. Even then, it technically makes
using a cell phone safer than listening to a radio that you DO in fact have to
push the buttons on. There is a ridiculous amount of micromanaging making it's
way into our law-makers minds. I'm for protecting people, but not at the cost of
having choice taken away.Restrict non-hands free usage? Yes.
Restrict usage altogether? No. Otherwise it's as bad as these city codes that
force people to put their property on display according to how their neighbors
want things instead of their own free choices.It's kind of hard to
be told I can't use something altogether (as some law makers have pushed for)
when I drive better with a cell than half the people on the road do without one.
'A proposed Senate bill, SB128, sponsored by Sen. Ross Romero, D-Salt Lake City,
would ban the use of cellphones while driving for those under the age of 18...'
- article Because the guy in the photo... is
'obiviously', under 18? *Shakes head
Re: mtmanmc | 1:16 a.m. Jan. 26, 2012 Your reasoning would suggest
that we loosen drunk driving laws because after all it does take away our
freedoms. While we're at it perhaps we should eliminate traffic lights whose
only purpose is to give the police an excuse to give us traffic tickets.By-the-way, it has been proven that texting while driving quadruples
your risk of crashing.
We do all live (and drive) in a world of distractions. No one is completely
focused on their driving 100% of the time. Reasonably, any activity that
requires you to take you eyes off of the road for more than a few seconds should
be banned. Simply talking on a cell phone or to other passengers, listening to
music etc. should not be placed in the same category as activities that divert
your attention from the road.
Utah wake Up! It is just plain stupid to not ban ell phone use for ALL! Before
cell phone we all did quite well. It is silly to think of banning cell phone
use for the young and not for all adults.We in Utah have fun telling
the Federal government to stay out of our life - except when we want money! Its time for the state of Utah to realize that the Federal is no longer
the enemy. We have long since quit hiding our other wives from the feds! :-)
We need to get over our fixation about the feds invading our lives. We in Utah
are quick to ask for aid from the feds when an emergency happens - witness Davis
county with the recent high winds. Legislators - Ban cell phone use
in cars for ALL or NO ONE!
I agree with many of the comments here that we should have a total ban of cell
phone usage while driving. Almost every time I come across someone driving
erratically, slow or impeding traffic flow they are on a cell phone. I refuse to
use one while driving because I believe it is dangerous, I do not like laws that
infringe on others liberty, but some laws are for the safety of the whole and
not just the convenience of the individual. Sadly for those who do not recognize
this we need to have laws in force that promote safety and good judgement for
"It never ceases to amaze me how people outside Utah are so concerned with
the things day to day in Utah."Lived in Utah many years Uncle.
You live "where freedom and liberty reign" but I should not comment on
these boards? Too funny.I notice that you did not address my post.
Guess its cause I don't live there.
Ms Molli:Thanks you, I stand corrected if that is the case in CA.
Rocket Science | 9:00 a.m. Jan. 26, 2012 Brigham City, UT California
has a law banning all cell phone usage while driving.Not true, the
CA law requires HANDS FREE cell phone use while driving.
@mtmanmc, Really. Why don't we go back in time when we didn't have cell phones.
That will solve the problem or would it? I had my guide dog guiding
me to cross the street when some stupid person driving while talking on the cell
phone and swearved around us. A bystander saw what happened.Back
then, all those things you mentioned are everyday things will go on forever (I
think, if nobody want anymore children). You child haters. Of course you more
likely to tell me to get off the street if I am on the cross walk like some
people will tell those blind people or anyone! Oh, my guide dog di just fne
getting me around sometime while my dog was CHEWING GUMS (Really)! :-))Cell phones should be BANNED while a person is behind the wheel when the motor
is running along with any other communication (gps, ipad, pc, etc.) devices (not
California has a law banning all cell phone usage while driving. A couple of
times when my brother who lives in CA has called me, after we have talked, he
has said "well I better get going". I ask him what he is doing and
where he is and inevitably he is has puleed into a parking lot and turned off
his car before he called because he felt he needed to call me right then before
he got home. He does it because it is safe and it is the law.Would
it be asking too much to do the same here?
Why would you have a photo of an adult, not a teen, in a story about teen cell
phone use. Lazy
@Joe Blow: worry about your issues and the primary in Florida. I think people in
Utah can take care of our own legislative issues.It never ceases to
amaze me how people outside Utah are so concerned with the things day to day in
Utah.---someone should ask Mr Romero why just stop here
with cell phones. It's impossible to legislate stupidity. Anyone see the Youtube
hit from Bountiful with the crazy drivers during the last snow storm? We should
have a law about that too!It's impossible to legislate stupidity
folks, absolutely impossible!
mtmanmc:Your reasoning would suggest we need no driving laws at
all.A few years ago I attended a funeral of a friend who along with
another person in his carpool, just as they were leaving Logan on their way to
work one morning, were killed on their way to work by a driver who was texting.
Was texting a distraction?Texting while driving is now ilegal in
UT.Almost every evening while riding home in my carpool we comment
about people who going way to slow for the freeway or who we see driving all
over the place. Almost always they are on a cell phone or texting.Are they not presenting a hazard to others?Driving is a privilige
and we all have a responsibility to do the best we can to avoid distractions.
Obviously statistics and insurance data show cell phone usage has become a
significant hazard. We have failed to police ourselves therefore a law is
needed. Should your right to use a cell phone while driving supersede my
friends right to live? You can delay your cell phone usage just a few minutes
until you are not endangering anyone else.
If we were debating a law against driving under the influence of alcohol, the
comments would be 100% one sided.And rightfully so.So,
why is it there there are some claiming govt interference when talking about a
law banning texting while driving?Studies have show that it is AT
LEAST as dangerous as someone who has been drinking. Some studies suggest that
it is significantly more dangerous.Help me understand the disparity?
Is it about safety or something more?
wyoming and nevada have both passed laws prohibiting cell phone use while
driving. how come we're lagging behind?
Every time I have been able to avoid a collision from a "drunk"
texting//calling driver, the driver has been well over the targeted age in this
bill. Cell phones just might be more dangerous than alcohol and should be
illegal except when a vehicle is at a full stop or to call 911.
It must require all cell phones to be off in a vehicle, including all passengers
because they are a lot of the distraction to a driver as well.What
is "very" disturbing is have a law enforcement vehicle or ambulance
driver talking on a cell phone while performing their duties as martyrs and
demigods serving the blue army and public trust. They too are in the typical
phone pose while driving, left shoulder and arm and head propped against the
left door panel and window with a blank stare on his face while maneuvering
their vehicle proudly displaying the "Protect and Serve" slogan
plastered on the car. While watching people run red lights (maybe) and near miss
accidents (maybe), I can imagine his thoughts at that moment, "Too late to
follow or apprehend, I'll catch them breaking the law next time". We can't
fight the Blue Code and report these officer otherwise we become department
targets every time.This cell phone law has to apply to everyone
except for emergency use with vehicle stopped and Eng turned off. This law
should also block the use of GPS and TV Mapping display programs during vehicle
Don't limit it to teens. Adults can't safely carry on a phone conversation while
Seem that people can't drive while chewing gum. A mother gets distracted by her
baby or children, while driving. What you going to do ban the children from the
vehicle? How about law enforcement, while looking at computer screens or talking
on their radios. You think that isn't a distraction and dangerous? Then ban all
communications equipment from vehicles. That includes radios, cd players,
reading books and papers, putting on make up and combing hair. Why not just
plain ban vehicle traveling all together. Wake up to the facts distractions are
everywhere that we drive. The whole problem with this country can be found with
laws that take freedoms away. If you can't handle distraction while driving stay
off the road and quit driving. Otherwise learn how to drive without infringing
on rights of the people by laws that become more and more controlling.
No, it is not enough to target teenagers only. It won't be enough until adults
are stopped from talking and texting while driving.