Johnson72How portland doing?Yeah that's what I thought.
I still think everyone should lay off of Harris. It is no secret he is not
playing well, but the fans oughtt to try and rally him by supporting him than
trashing him. I would not be opposed to a trade under the right circumstances,
but right now folks, he wears our beloved Jazz jersey, and therefore I will
support Harris as long as he plays for the team that I love.
Let me preface this by saying the Jazz did not lose this game because of
officiating, however:1- Dirk should have picked up his 2nd technical
when slapping the ball out of Favor's hands. The only reason he was not given a
technical is because the refs knew he would be out of the game. That is a not
right.2- Kanter did not goal tend Terry's shot. It came off the
rim.3- Favors tossed for throwing the ball? A technical sure, but
getting tossed?4- Marion caught the ball at the top of the key and
basically did a dance with the ball. It was about 5 baby steps. The crowd
yelled for a travel. Of course, no call.5- Favors drop step on Dirk
was a travel in normal basketball, but for NBA standards, like the way Marion
took 5 steps at the top of the key, it was not a travel.I am sick of
all star treatment. Dirk should have been ejected.
Hoopshype has the Jazz shopping Harris on the market. He isn't on the same page
as Corbin! Keep your fingers crossed, point guard help might be a trade away! C
J did have a better night, that's not C J s problem. See if he can play two or
three in a row. And those bashing Hayward need to be patient, remember C J his
second year? As soon as Hayward gets his confidence he will be fine.
Yep Miles watched the game ,your boy had a really nice dunk early in the game
while Dallas was nappin,as far as the great d you saw,better get to the
optomitrist (eye doctor)
Houdini did you actually Watch the game? CJ made some great defensive plays
that lead to scores. He played awesome defense all night long. Hayward was
afraid to shoot all night long. Plus is tiny frame got abused on defense all
night long too. Harris, Bell and Hayward were awful last night.
Not sure why favors was ejected from the game, but dirk can be a jerk all game
and pout and throw the ball down and slap away and not get thrown too. worst
officiated game all year. Too much favortism for the champs by the refs. They
won this because of the refs, and coach corbin made a bad decision taking out
watson in favor of harris in the 4th. keep watson in and we win the game, even
with the refs against us.
CJ was playing pretty well yesterday, and I would have rather had him take that
3-pointer over Harris. Watson should have never come out. I am not
convinced that the refs beat us. In fact I was pleased by the perseverance of
the Jazz every time the refs made an outlandish call, they usually came back
with a good defensive stop and got the ball back. Our outside
shooting lost us the game. There was not much else to blame but that. All we
needed was a few more 15-20 footers to keep the defense honest, and we would
have opened things up for Milsap and AJ.
Milsap and Jefferson need more respect from the refs. Everyone vote them in as
All Stars and they will be more likely to get the calls they aren't getting
right now. I'm not saying it is okay, just saying I am not expecting it to ever
change. Everyone vote! There aren't a lot of days left, and we can vote once a
day until the deadline.
Well Johnson72, I guess the replays were doctored then, because it showed a
basketball clearly out of the cylinder when they called a goaltending, and
nothing close to traveling on a cancelled basket by Favors. Also, an automatic
technical foul should have been called when Dirk slapped the ball out of Favors'
hands. The sportscasters backed all that up. These are three of
the most obvious poor calls to anyone who was watching. Typical of the
favoritism given to all stars and NBA champions night after night, that drives
fans crazy across the country.Apparently this kind of crooked
reffing is "right on the money" to enough fans that any change will
indeed be slow in coming. That, plus the interminable time spent during free
throws and inbounding, has me losing interest more and more each year.
The officiating was right on the money. most posters here are just way to one
sided, it was a great game and awesome to see the jazz lose at home.. I could
not be any happier right now.
Impressed by Watson last night- it's nice to see someone stand up to others
finally after sitting through boozer for so long who wouldn't stick up for any
of his team-mates at all. I'm liking the toughness.Reggie Miller
made a comment that slapping the ball out of someone else's hands is an
automatic technical. If that's the case why was classless dirk not given one?
Maybe because he already had one and no way were the officials going to call a
second and toss the big superstar. I was happy to see him be pretty much
ineffective most of the night though- maybe his knee's a bit worse off than
people are letting on. Keep your heads up Jazz- the best could still
be yet to come.
Earl Watson is the captain of this team!!! The way he stood up for Favors and
stood up to Dirk was awesome. He is the defination what what TEAM is all
miles,you need to take those 2-bit texas swap-meet sun shades off and look at
reality.miles is the ultimate one trick pony...he scored 17 points, whoopee,it`s
not a scoring contest it`s a game,you need to rebound,assist,steal and most
importantly play defense,I say package Harris,who seems to have a terrible case
of milesitosis,miles,trade exemp and pick for, do I dare...A D-will type pg
Eric Bledsoe!!! He is stuck behind Mo,Cp3,Billups....Great young PG....Make it
Does it look to anyone else that Hayward is afraid to take a shot? He looks
confused and lost out there half the time.
Plyxply: Funny stuff. CJ should not have been playing? Lamar backed him down
once...That's two points. Hayward was abused all night long by Marion. Hayward
couldn't hit a wide open jump shot. CJ was all over the floor last night making
plays. Marion and Lamar are both elite players in the league. CJ was even
guarding Dirk some. CJ was awesome last night. The only thing that kept the
Jazz from winning was Jerry Jr. not playing him more!!Bell and
Harris amount to zero offense. Beaubois, who is a nobody, abused the Jazz
guards all game long. Watson was awesome too!!! Burkes and CJ
outscored Bell Harris and Hayward in half the minutes.
I nominate Earl Watson to be the team captain. He was terrific and showed he
could back his teammate with the Dirk fiasco. Plus his locker room demeanor and
comments afterwards. How come Dirk didn't get a T for his slapping the ball away
from Favors? Stupid!This game was fun to watch. These kids will only
get better and will learn from their youthful mistakes. I'm loving this! Just,
of course, wish we could have picked up the win, but more wins are coming.Go Jazzboys!!! Go Earl!!!
Dallas was smart- defend Jazz players within 10 feet of the basket, and let the
outside shooters miss their outside shots, as they usually do. Although both
teams struggled from 3pt land, Dallas was way better within the arc. The team
can't expect the frontcourt to win every game for them- the guards and wings
need to hit more of their shots (especially the open ones0!
Why is it that the smalles guy on the court (Watson) had to go after Dirk when
he slapped the ball out of Favors hands? Favors just walked away when that
happened, which I think is cowardly. He needed to do what Earl did, at least go
get in his face. Our big guys don't have any mean streak in them, and it is
costing us. When the smallest guy on the court has to be the ONLY enforcer on
the team there is a problem. I like Earl, he has guts. But he needs others to do
My .02 cents:-As has been mentioned, Harris was awful. Confused as
to why Corbin put him back in with 2 minutes to go. Why not give Tinsley some of
the minutes Harris is getting.-When Kanter gets a rebound, he takes
too much time to gather himself before he goes back up. Something, I am sure he
will fix as he gets more experience.-We need to have a 3-pt shooting
threat, but it was nice to see Burks make a couple of long shots.-Speaking of Burks, as was mentioned, Beaubois abused Burks.-At
the beginning of the year, I was very frustrated that Bell was getting minutes,
but not anymore. He brings some toughness. Great example for the young
players.-Watson may be the MVP for the Jazz. Standing up for Favors
was absolutely great.-If I was Favors, I would have been frustrated
too. Next time, he needs to get in the face of a player who did was Dirk did to
Corbin lost this game when he put Harris back in late in the 4th. That
decision, and the one to even play CJ Miles cost the Jazz.It was so
frustrating watching anyone Miles was guarding score at will. Marion scored
nearly all his point on CJ and then Odom just made CJ look silley. CJ got
backed down time after time and never gave any resistance. While Bell clearly
struggles offensively at least he battled on the defensive end, CJ was terrible
defensively last night.
So the officiating was lousy, Dirty Dirk was his usual dirty self, the Jazz were
not up to par in the first half, a young coach (in terms of how long he has been
head coach) made some errors, and a young team learned a few lessons, BUT the
Jazz were within 4 points of overcoming all that and beat the World Champion
Mavs. The best is yet to come. GO JAZZ!!!
No it didn't go into the stands. He gave it a good toss but definitely not
worthy of being tossed from the game. It deserved a technical, but at the end of
the first half Dirk smashed the ball into the ground and sent it bouncing 15
feet in the air and he was given a tech and nothing else. Never like to blame
anything loss on the refs but they really took alot of energy from the game. Even with a loss though that was a fun game to watch! This team has some
serious potential, and the best part is most of the exciting plays are coming
from our younger players.
It was a tight game either team played well enough to win, and made enough
mistakes to lose. Some poor play and coaching does not excuse terrible
officiating. On nearly back-to-back plays, the refs called a goaltending that
was clearly out of the cylinder, and called traveling on a Favors bucket that
was a standard spin move with no traveling whatsoever. That's 4 points flat-out
given to Dallas in a game decided by 3. Beyond that, the favoritism to Dallas
on other calls was so obvious. That's inexcusable. Since a
goaltending call stops action like a made bucket, it should be reviewable at a
timeout, just like a 3-pointer.
Can someone who attended the game tell me if Favors toss "with force"
actually went into the stands? Thats what the media is saying but on tv it didn
tlook like it did.
Earl Watson plays Jazz basketball.
Ha - I loved this game! I think we proved a lot!! And Watson was the bomb when
he went after Dirk who has got more anger issues than my first husband - which
says a lot! He should not even be allowed to play in this league! One day the
man (if you can call him that) is truly going to hurt someone - oh wait - he did
that to Kirlinko. Such favoratism! But outside of the bits and pieces already
mentioned, the team did well and proved that they are defintly a team to contend
with. We'll pull it together the more Corbin continues to understand his guys
and how to work them. I personally think he is doing a great job with a young
team who no one had faith in. We are WINNERS!! Stupid refs!
a PG.... a PG.... My Kingdom for a Starting PG !!!!!!
Like many others, I thought Harris stunk it up last night, again. The guy
cannot run the offense, looks for his own shot repeatedly. Watson and Hayword
are the passers on this team.Its beyond me why Corbin took Watson
out with 2 minutes to go when he had the offense cooking. The result was
predictable: Harris launched bricks, the offense stalled, and the Jazz lost
another game they could have won.
I suspect that Favors was not the only one caught up in the emotions of the
game.Perhaps the coach was caught up in the emotions and put in
Harris who had not hit one field goal all night ( he should have been in the
stands not even on the bench) and Corbin inserted Bell (1 field goal)with 3
minutes to go, so now the Jazz had two ineffective scoring players on the
floor.It is hard to beat the world champs with only 3 players.
Burks and CJ were effective in the game as was Earl Watson yet the coach went
with..... and left those three on the bench.Wonder how he will
ESPN has AP wire photos of the game that tell a story. Dallas played with a lot
more energy than the Jazz. They played multiple defense. The Jazz during a
timeout were led by Raja Bell with Hayward and Millsap as bystanders of the
five. There are factions on the team which need to be addressed. In addition,
Harris was 0 for 7 from the field with one assist. Jefferson and Millsap
appeared to be the same height. Favors and Kanter are still the "power
pups" and inevitable to push the others out. Millsap is still like
Washington, DC, first in your hearts and last in the American League. Make
Millsap the captain and trade the faction for a good point guard. Go Jazz!
That was a tough loss, but should be expected with a young team just beginning
to jell. More than likely coach can take some blame for this loss also, with
player minutes not used very well. Harris, Bell and Milsap stunk up the joint
last night and did not deserve the minutes they got. Oh well just another night
in the life of the greedy NBA and the media(TNT) in this case. Why not have 1
telecast per night TNT, instead of starting games when everyone is supposed to
be going or getting ready for bed. And those biased announcers they have, get
out of here and don't come back please, not to mention the studio crew. Shaq is
terrible and the others are questionable. Oh well, forget that one guys and move
on because your future looks bright if you stay togetgher.
Poor officiating, yes. But it wasn't the officials fault we came out slow and
let the Mavs crash the offensive boards.
I'm tired of seeing poor guard play hurt this team.Just when Watson
leads the team back Harris has to come in and lay goose eggs.Another
winnable game. Corbin really needs to tighten up his rotation. Prolonged
minutes for the starters when they are flat made it hard to win.Another great effort by CJ.
They could have beat those guys! Jefferson did his best jump out of the way in
the paint to let everyone in. He even screened off his own teammates on several
occasions. He is way to soft in the middle. He will not rotate on defense! We
were down by two when he and Harris entered the game in the forth. This one go's
to Corbin.. Harris should not have been in that game. Earl was as surprised as I
was when he went to Harris during that critical ending of the fourth. Jefferson,
Harris, and Corbin lost this one. They played bad in the first quarter, then
brought that mess with them to end the game!
is it me or does devin harris air ball a lot of shots? and after watching that
game, we need to get rid of harris
Gotta love Earl. He seems to be one of the few guys you can count on to bring it
every night. He doesn't take anything from anyone and backs up his team
regardless. I don't care if he's second string, he should be captain of the
I was only able to see the first half, and it was telling when TNT's Reggie
Miller stated that the Jazz probably needed a point guard who passed first
instead of the shot-happy (and continually off-target) Devon Harris. I
understand that Devon is deserving of a chance to lead this team from the point
in the early part of the season, but I am confident that Burks could bring the
ball up just as well as Harris and, most importantly, make a better entry pass
or dish to Hayward at the 2 guard and Hayward could do his thing. Start Watson
or Burks at point now, Jazz. I liked Jefferson's play a little more tonight...he
seems more agile going laterally to get rebounds. Go Jazz.
Devon Harris is starting to anger a lot of people. For one thing he worries
about his shot..One problem. Even Ron Brewer is a better shooter. ALways short
it seems. When he thinks pass first, create and set up then more valuable.
Earl was doing the job and should have played the whole 4th Quarter. Bringing
him in Bell back there made no sense. CJ should have been on the court then.
Gordon was awful defensively constantly late to cover guys like Terry and
Marion. Very late and too far off the shooter and the 3s go up. He made some
amends in the 2nd half the way he attacked the rim. Burks was good offensively
but just as bad defensively as Beaubois just abused him and anyone else. Favors
was picked on. Refs I see biased as ever, of course now the Jazz are a possible
threat people worry again. AJ holds the ball too long and bad for us when he
does. Good fight in comeback will say that.
Good effort for a young Jazz team.Is it time for Harris to be
replaced as a starter?
Worst officiated game I've seen in a LONG time.
I love the Jazz's attitude they did not complain about the missed calls and
favoritism towards the defending Champs. Even tho we lost this you have to
appreciate the toughness of this young team. The Jazz really need a 3 point
threat in order to help out the Bigs. I also think that Dirk has some of the
worst sportsmanship in the NBA. I think Charles is wrong on us needing three
years to make the playoffs too.
Good effort Jazz.Is it time for Harris to lose his role in the
Good Job Favors! Go Jazz!
David Stern, where amazing happens. Good job Jazz team!!!