To "spring street | 5:17 p.m." since the building is useless without
the workers that have the highly specialized skill, what good would it be to set
up a factory in Utah without the skilled workers to go with it?I am
not sure you understand why he has the shop in Poland.
I worked with David Kirkham at Camp Loll, the world's most beautiful and amazing
Scout Camp. I know Mr. Kirkham to be an excellent person, and I believe that
his intentions are for nothing but to help his fellow man. I cringe
every time some story pops up that has anything to do with a topic such as this,
where people are certain to have differing opinions. The user comments always
seem to lose altitude rapidly. Politics has become synonymous with contention,
and this electronic medium only exacerbates the problem as any soured individual
may spew his poison without fear of accountability. What has happened to common
respect for one another? Is a man (or woman) evil simply because he is a
Republican or a Democrat, or simply because he doesn't see things the way we do?
Can we not give our fellow man the benefit of the doubt? Can we not respect in
spite of disagreement? Who has never been a hypocrite? Do we not all desire
respect? Is it so hard to live at peace, in spite of differences? Please
understand, this is just a general plea, not directed at anyone in particular.
Be at peace.
@ RedShirt: Where did I ever say anything about dragging Polish people away
from their families?I said bring the factory to Utah - factories and
people are not the same thing.And since the goal would be to provide
jobs to Utahns, bringing workers from Poland would kind of defeat that
purpose.Additionally, there are plenty of people in the US who know
how to work with aluminum - but since they are considered skilled workers, they
demand a little more money.You know, my first post was really pretty
straight forward and is easily read and understood by anyone with a 6th grade
education (according to my niece, who is in 6th grade). Your attempts to
convolute it reflect poorly on you.
Most of America has soured on the Tea Party. Will Utah follow?
when someone says socialism hurts the poor it means they will do harm to the
poor. and he will most likley work to cut taxes and education spending because
thats what they do. they never want to help the poor only big corps, that pay
for the tea party kids anyway.
It is funny about people complainin about him runnin his factory out of Poland.
So far nobody has stated why he did that.When he started making his
cars, he needed highly skilled workers who can form aluminum skins. There were
NO workers in the US who could do what the Polish workers could.Now
you have people complaining that he didn't bring the workers to Utah to work.
People like "spring street" are arrogant thinking that those people
would just jump at the chance to leave their extended families, country,
culture, and everything they grew up with to come to the US.
@ my2cents: You're right - he knows why business owners operate in countries
other than the US because he is one of the business owners that does that.If he is willing to put his money where his mouth is and close his shop
in Poland and bring it to Utah, then he might be worth listening to - otherwise,
he is just another hypocrite.
The only non party controlled candidate and I'll vote for him. He knows why
factories and business in the US are turning off their lights and locking the
gates, as governor he can legislate changes to keep factories from turning off
more lights and locking more gates.The reason he started up in
Poland is they had workers willing and ready to turn the lights back on and a
government that let him unlock the gates. Socialism and welfare states turns out
the lights of factories. He understands the relationship of worker
prosperity and the economy. He understands the benefits of Unions and organized
workers deserving more than poverty jobs that force a poverty economy. Most
republicans and business owners are 'slavers' who think poverty and minimum
wages workers are overpaid company overhead.The Federal Labor Laws
prohibit business to use foreign labor, legal, illegal, and outsourced as
illegal competitive anti american job rights. In all this 'smack down the labor
and workers of America campaign' every one is forgetting the Federal Labor Laws
and the rights it gives the American workforce as primary job beneficiaries.
I'd say the far-right fringe will be well represented in this year's Republican
primary. Can we please have some more mainstream candidates now?
I'd like to see Governor Huntsman run. Utah prospered and grew while he was
governor. He's just what we need.
Another Tea Party conservative.Aren't there any people in Utah who
are moderate and sensible?
I welcome more choices for Governor. If this is the same Kirkham that I hear
when watching PBS as a sponsor, I'll give him a chance.
All candidates should incorporate what Kirkham states about government
transparency and in that light they should bring Terry Diehl to justice for
having abused his position on the UTA Board by capitalizing on his insider
knowledge to profit personally from same to the tune of $24MM.
"Much of the company's work is done in a former aircraft factory in Poland.
Working in Poland and serving an LDS Church mission in Peru, he said, gave him
firsthand knowledge of what socialism does to people."Obviously, socialism in Poland prepared people to be exploited for cheap labor
by an American businessman like Kirkham who does not want to pay Utahns or other
US citizens to work for his company. Socialism--at least socialism
abroad--certainly seems to have benefited his business strategy, to the
detriment of those unemployed in his own state.
ANYONE but Herbert please!!
Isn't it time for a non-politician who has created businesses? The insiders
bring us nonsense like GRAMA without even thinking about it.
Herbert's questionable dealings in the Utah county I-15 project and subsequent
pay off of the construction company that was going to file a lawsuit along with
his support for the Utah Compact and signing of HB116 rules him out for me as an
option beyond his current term. I voted for him in the last election but he has
since done nothing but disappointment me in a very profound way.
I would like to hear Philpot and our current governor. They are my choices.
Morgan Philpot is a very strong fiscal conservative. He has incredible plans to
make Utah the #1 state in the nation and will follow through on them. He's a
strong supporter and fighter of states rights and will fight for Utah when it
comes to the federal government land issue in Utah. Please take the time to meet
Morgan today, ask your questions and learn more. I promise you will realize this
is the candidate you will bring change to Utah and make a huge positive impact!