RE: DeltaFoxtrot You living in the far past, trying use 18th
century definitions of conseravatism and liberalism, the words have
far diffent meaning than they did hundreds of years ago.Conservatism, NOW, means consevring the american way of life, perserving the
constitution, preserving freedom and liberty, conset ving our foudational
belief in God and that or right come from him and not government,Liberalism, NOW, means liberating us of our rights and giving them to
government, liberating our money from us, liberating our freedoms and the power
of the people and replacing them with communism, socialsm and big government
control over our lives, removal of God and any mention of God and giving all
power to and rights to governmen. There is great disdain from the liberal elite
of the common people making ther own decions and laws and having the power
(and the states as well) (why else limit the size of the house a hundred years
ago?. if were you truly for the people you would not do that)My!
have things changed.
I'm confused. After the last debate Huntsman was shown to bash Romney and only
Romney, and now he's backing him?
We get seasoned by our personal experiences and this was one of those
experiences for Jon Huntsman Jr. He comes from good stock and will be there
doing what he needs to for our country and for our great citizens that are
striving to keep the heritage we have. We are fortunate for people with courage
to do what he has done and the sacrifices he has made for us as a country. His
service for the many years has been a blessing for us but a sacrifice for his
family and friends, also. He has been in the far outreaches of the world and
mainstream that we all enjoy on a daily basis. His family and especially, his
wife's service, has been beyond call and we need to thank them all. That
doesn't mean their service will stop as his father and ancestors set his DNA up
for excellence in service. This is a grueling campaign for the Romneys, also.
People with principles are worth so much for our country. A President with
principles will bring in advisors and counselors that will help continue our
freedoms for centuries to come. We cannot thwart our heritage from our
I here I was waiting for that "ticket to ride" coming out of New
Hamphshire. Glad to see him suspend. His campaign never got off the ground.
Also, as much as I like Mitt, and he's my GOP candidate, Huntsman's support of
Mitt doesn't little if anything for the Romney camp.
There is an old saying that I remember the meaning of but not the exact wording.
It is something about choosing the words we speak carefully that they tend not
to be on the bitter or hurtful side as we may later be called to eat them
ourselves. Another is " there is enough bad in the best of
usAnd enough good in the worst of usThat it hardly behooves any of
usTo talk ill about the rest of us"So i think to speak
about what WE plan to doAbout what WE have doneAnd only VERY
carefully about what others have done with facts- no spin Is the
best way to let people make choicesAnd not try to see past mud slinging.
--- I'll give a lost saying"to sling mud at another, one must
get their own hands dirty".Then
I think a lot of folks miss the point of many of the principles that Jon
Huntsman has been trying to get across during his campaign. Namely, that you do
not have to agree 100% with a person to work together with them. Did he
wholeheartedly endorse President Obama when he agreed to serve as his Ambassador
to China? I don't think so, but he saw the opportunity to serve his country as
more important than making a political statement, and accepted the position.
Huntsman made very clear in his withdrawal speech that he doesn't agree with all
of Mitt Romney's plans and ideas, but that given the political realities, he
believes that Mitt Romney is the best option. And, when you look at their
beliefs and positions, it is fair to say that he is probably closer to Mitt
Romney on a majority of issues than he is to any other candidate currently
running for President. Huntsman has been trying to show us that you can work
with those that you don't agree with 100%. I think its an important lesson for
all of us to learn.
Huntsman gave a very classy withdrawal speech. Renewing the call for civility in
the remaining days of the GOP primary was exactly the right thing to do, showing
that he is a statesman as much as a politician. He also showed that he's a
pragmatist by endorsing Romney, who will be the GOP nominee. If he
can put together a (much) better team of advisors and campaign managers Huntsman
has a real shot at the presidency in the future.
@VSTMy nose is fine, although I guess I'm a little congested. Thanks for
your concern. Jon Huntsman is free to deliver his 1% support to any
candidate he wishes. But my main point was to address a more general issue. If
you are endorsing someone you once described as "increasingly
unelectable" what does that say about your own position? Why do we always
have to say, "well, I don't think he's fit for the Presidency, but the
other guy is worse". There are way too many qualified and principled
people in the United States to always be voting for the "lesser of two
evils". If you don't support someone, you don't have to support them.
Playing these party games of "best chance to defeat Obama" prevents us
from ever discussing real issues, like foreign policy or our monetary system.
That's my only point. Please tell me where you disagree with that.
@ute alumniWhat would Mitt Romney do about the Federal Reserve?
What is his plan for balancing the budget, other than spending time on a futile
balanced budget amendment effort? What specific cuts has he proposed? Will
Mitt Romney repeal the Patriot Act? Will he repeal the National Defense
Authorization Act? Will he insist that the United States only go to war with a
declaration of war by Congress, and as a last resort? These are some of the
things that are most important to me, and there is little distinction between
President Obama and Mitt Romney concerning them. I'll give my money
and my vote to the candidate I agree with, even if some talking head says claims
he has no chance. At the end of the day, I can live with the fact my guy might
not be the most popular, because it's tremendously satisfying to fight for
something you really believe in.
@toosmartforyouJon Huntsman called Mitt Romney a
"well-lubricated weather vane." He said in the debates that Romney's
record of being 47th in job creation just wasn't good enough for America. Did
he believe those things? If he did not believe them, he should not have said
them. If he does believe them, he is now forfeiting his beliefs, likely for a
return political favor. Either way, it's pure politics, and not a good thing
for America.I think the same thing about Hillary endorsing Obama or
any politician who goes from saying another candidate is unacceptable to
endorsing them the next day. It's putting the party above your principles, and
I don't like that. I guess that's party why I am a Ron Paul supporter. He's
willing to give a big ol' raspberry to the Republicans if they continue to
abandon their core principles. To him, it's about policies and ideas, not just
what party is in power. I don't buy into the "beat Obama at all
costs" philosophy. Republican deficits and spending are still too much. I
want America to do well. I couldn't care less about our two parties, who differ
very little in essence.
I have more respect for Jon Huntsman today than ever before. Thank you for your
service and I especially want to thank you for seeing that you need to take this
stand today so that we can move forward to have Mitt Romney become the one to
run against Obama. In time you might be able to have another chance to run for
President. If not you were a good Governor for our State and we the people of
Utah are grateful for your service here in Utah.
I was once a staunch liberal. I hated republican ideas. Then I went to school,
studied different philosophies, governments, political concepts, economic
systems, and along with my beliefs about morality- I changed. I went through a
long cycle of being torn in my views. I was persuaded that something was right,
then wrong, then right, etc. Ultimately I finally realized that in order to
preserve freedom most effectively, that many (but not all) conservative
principles were more acceptable and in accordance with the beliefs I placed most
value in.---With that, I would make two points.1) That while people seem to think 'conservative equals ignorant' (or anything
likewise insulting of intelligence) that I am living proof that someone can
consider both sides and be persuaded through reason that many conservative
principles are just and promote free agency.2) That there is one
thing I nearly abhor as uncivil and even promoting of a dangerous agenda, one of
political bigotry, and utter intolerance- and that is when people mock even the
existence of other opinions.My beliefs may be about the status quo,
but only in preserving freedom. If people disagree, they should move somewhere
that doesn't protect freedom.
david king.i hope you know ronny doesn't have a chance and continuing to
support this guy is only going to ensure yomama. i hope you are ready for that.
@ David kingJust because Mr. huntsman decided to run for President
doesn't mean he forfeits his right to support another candidate when he finds it
necessary to drop out of the race. Did you think the same thing 4 years ago
when Mrs. Clinton decided to drop out and support Mr. Obama?Dynamics
of a presidential bid change; otherwise, no one would ever support anyone except
their initial choice and that would be a waste of resources. Just
remember that the goal for Republicans is to see that Mr. Obama is a
one-and-done term President. And regardless of DeltaFoxTrot's opinion, many
millions share that sentiment. Newt apparently isn't the right man to effect
the change, neither is Mr. Paul or any of the others, according to Mr. Huntsman.
I love Jon Huntsman and I love Mitt Romney, I love the fact that the two
moderate Republicans in the race have huge connections to what many consider the
most conservative state in the Union. These are good men. Secondly, I could not
disagree with Deltafox trot more. Conservatism does not support the status quo,
conservatism stands up against liberalism and progressivism that will ultimately
destroy the very fiber of this nation as it destroys the family, religion,
financial stability and moral standing of the USA. Liberalism and all it's
hiding behind the lies of "its a choice", "the rich earn it off
the backs of the poor", we're here for the downtrodden and the little
guy" Liberalism is about the government and its minions gaining power.
Putting to death innocent unborn children (hiding behind the digusting lie that
it's a choice) getting welfare mothers and fathers so "hooked" on
handouts that they feel it is the only way to survive just to name 2.
@ Lisa,You do realize that there was already an article about this
written no more than about 12 hours ago right?
I laugh at the thought of "conservative ideas" helping this nation to
improve in any way.Conservatism is all about maintaining the status
quo. It certainly isn't going to help us get America back on track.
Quote by Jon Huntsman from the article:"Today I call on each campaign
to cease attacking each other and instead talk directly to the American people
about how our conservative ideas will create jobs, reduce our nation's debt,
stabilize energy prices and provide a better future,"Mr.
Huntsman, you mean like the distortion filled attack ads you made against Ron
Paul, when he had offered you nothing but compliments to that point? It's great
that you promised to run a civil campaign. It would have even been better if
you had actually done it.Also, I don't understand this business of
endorsing people you ran against. If Romney wasn't good enough for your vote
when you decided to run, what has changed? I don't get these quid-pro-quo games
of I'll support you now so I can have my opportunity later. Have some
principles! And no, saying "Romney is the most likely to defeat President
Obama in a general election" does not count as a principle. What do you
believe, Jon? And how does Romney fit into that when he didn't less than a week