I believe that if the parents are here illegally than the child shouldn't be a
citizen and should have no rights to in state tution, or free schooling, or any
other rights that U.S. citizens have. I am getting tired of men of the cloth
doing their best to go against the legal systems, and advocating what is against
the law or aid the illegalls in any way. They need to stick to ministing to
their flock and leave anything else alone that doesn't pertane to Christ and his
Deseret News: In a discussion that necessarily requires making a distinction
between legal and illegal immigration, you are purposely attempting to erase
this distinction by lumping the two together under the simple term,
"immigrant." This you are doing in a subtle, cunning and
quite deliberate effort to promote tolerance for illegal immigration, and
everyone knows it. Many in the community find such dishonesty disgusting
especially coming from a church-owned paper. "We believe in
being honest." Doncha remember hearing that in Primary as a kid??
"where do you think these children will go delta, they are here they are
not leaving they are Americans for all intents and purposes."They are not Americans unless they have citizenship papers. If they don't
have citizenship papers they need to leave... go home... get in line. I'm sure
the illegal children will find schools in their native countries to attend."what we do to or refuse to do for them will effect our communities
and society at large."What will affect our communities and
society in a huge way is allowing uncontrolled illegal immigration. As a
minimum we will lose our identity as a nation.@DN Subscriber:"Please stop publishing the endless stream of pro-amnesty pieces in
the paper."Hear, hear! We need to see the DNews take at least
a neutral position (such as reporting both sides) instead of always coming down
on the side of illegal immigration. Give it a try, DNews management. As Fox
News says: 'reporting fair and balanced.'
Ned Grimly; Excellent Observation. " I have seen the Enemy, and it is
us..."This "The Worst Recession in U.S. History"
began January 2008 when America began the I.C.E. Deportations.Now
Blame it on Mexico Americans want to Persecute Children, even legal U.S. Citizen
Children.It is sad!Forgive them Father, they know not
what they do."America is great because it is good, when it
ceases to be good, it ceases to be great."Alex De TocquevilleA very wise 1840's French Historian.Prosperity naturally
follows Good.This truly is America's Darkest Hour.To:
Good, and Brotherhood, from Sea to shining Sea.
It's about time that the laws be enforce once again. There are laws in every
states constitution that declare all parents show proof of the parents
citizenship before they can put their children in our schools. This law has been
in place since 1847 when Utah became a state and has yet to be repealed or
removed from the constitution.Education is not a right of
occupation, education is a privilege of parents citizenship. This law may also
limit birth rights so illegal parents won't have problems in deporting whole
families. Citizenship is a choice and privilege and is revocable under the
constitution, its time people read all the laws, not what the DN, businsess, and
advocates lies about.BTW, child citizen status is irrelevant with
the state laws, its parents citizenship. Its keeps undeserving foreign nationals
out of education. Why waste education on people who cannot get jobs or benefit
this country? Spending billions of dollars to hide illegal foreign nationals in
our schools is senseless waste.Illegal immigrants is a label foreign
nationals and their advocates invented, its not in the immigration laws. It is
our right to 'demand' foreign nationals be removed from the schools.
@toosmartforyou you mean the fact that illegal immigration is at a 40 year
low that incompetence? The real question people should be asking is
why so much focus on illegal immigration by the states governments what are they
trying to distract the voters from noticing?
Stop insulting our intelligence by mixing legal and illegal together. Using
immigrant for laws that go after illegal aliens (legal name) is deceptive
speech. The Supreme court has said pulling business licenses and
mandatory E-Verify is legal for states to do now. And Federal courts have
allowed Alabama the right to bar people here illegally from entering into any
business with the state. No drivers license, no business license, etc. Denying school and food programs has been struck down by courts. Utah would be
wasting it's time, and our legislation knows it. So why is it used to scare
Utahns into rejecting enforcement laws?
Just enforce our current laws. Send all illegal aliens home. Do not re-ellect
politicians who refuse to send illegal aliens back home.
Waaa waaa waaaa. Just more pity party pro-illegal propaganda from the deseret
news. So illegals are getting worried that they won't get free education for
their anchor babies anymore? Maybe they should stay in mexico instead of
rushing over our border with their hands out. Actually, I don't even blame the
illegals for this mess. Because, after all, it is our lame-brained government
that gives all these handouts (WIC, welfare, free school, free hospital care,
citizenship to anchor babies, etc., etc.), and you can't blame people for taking
freebies that are offered to them. It is high time that our
government STOP giving all the freebies out, and removing those and the other
magnets that bring these people here, such as being able to work under the table
and send all their money back to mexico.It's obvious to me that most
citizens are really fed up with this mess, and we need to make our voices heard
by voting out every corrupt politician who panders to illegals, as well as
boycotting business who hire them.
"i have seen the enemy, and it is us..."
Maybe all these advocates ought to be talking to the US Congress, not individual
State Legislatures. After all, isn't that who is supposed to take care of this
mess? Immigration reform has been needed for decades, yet all we get is a fight
about extending the government spending because a budget hasn't been passed (or
even proposed) for years.WHY OH WHY do we put up with this
Re: CHS 85 | 3:02 p.m. Jan. 12, 2012 What American needs is a
president who is willing to obey the law and defend our borders. Come November
2012 we're going to get one.
I'm sure all you ultra-conservatives have read the Supreme Court case Plyler v.
Doe. What you are all advocating is nothing new, and has been
struck down form municipal court all the way to the Supreme Court.
Yes, that's what we need. Legions of uneducated people in our midst. That'll
really improve society. Like it or not, children MUST be educated
or they will become a hindrance to society as a whole. If you think education
children is expensive, trying not educating children. Once again,
simple solutions for complex problems is the conservative mantra.
Yeah, we believe in obeying, honoring and sustaining the law... except when we
know the law breakers from church.
"The Birthright citizenship law" (H.R.140) amending the right of
illegal parents of claiming citizenship for unborn babies smuggled into our
country, once again circumvent immigration laws. If the Congress does not begin
to start enforcing the 1986 Immigration Reform and Control Act (IRCA) as found
in the Federal Register, America will be overrun with impoverished people,
seeking a way out of their own poverty in other countries; from Europe to South
and Central America and every other hemisphere. This is another billion dollar
expense of unfunded mandates slammed on to all taxpayers--without
Representation? This are two of the most important taxpayer laws that potential
presidents Mitt Romney (C+), Ron Paul (F), Rick Perry (D+), Newt Gingrich (D),
Jon Huntsman (D) and Rick Santorum (D) and Borack Obama (F-) have been graded
upon by NumbersUSA for their stance on the 20 million plus illegal aliens
already homesteading here and laws to halt this travesty. The TEA PARTY is not
for any kind of AMNESTY, Sanctuary City policies, Uncontrollable Chain Migration
or state law Dream Acts.
Bravo Legislators- let's get the job done quickly.There is
absolutely NO excuse for having any special benefits for any person who has
broken the law and is here illegally.If there is, why not give out
new cars to speeders, pharmacy credits to drug dealers, and cash rebates to bank
robbers?I am all for LEGAL immigrants getting benefits, but
adamantly opposed to providing incentives to reward people who break the law.
Don't tell me about the children of illegals who have "anchor baby"
citizenship and how it hurts them. They should be the total responsibility of
their parents to support them and pay for their education, in whatever country
they can legally live in, with or without their parents.Please stop
publishing the endless stream of pro-amnesty pieces in the paper. Or at least be
crystal clear to distinguish between legal and illegal immigrants. This story
tries to leave the impression that legal immigrants will be hurt, not those who
have broken the law.
Yet again advocates for ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS try to confuse them with LEGAL
immigrants. They're NOT the same.We've NEVER denied benefits to
LEGAL residents.We are, and will continue to (hopefully)deny
benefits to illegal immigrant trespassers.There ARE some things the
states can do to protect their state budgets IN SPITE of the strong lobbying
from amnesty advocates!If LEGAL IMMIGRANTS have been denied benefits
they are entitled to they should contact the approriate authorities.ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS by definition, don't have those same rights!!
where do you think these children will go delta, they are here they are not
leaving they are Americans for all intents and purposes. what we do to or refuse
to do for them will effect our communities and society at large.
It is sad that children will suffer because of this, however I also understand
that America should be taking care of Americans first.