Once again, there is nothing wrong with the proper use of a tazer..but to jump
out of a car screaming in the desert and shoot only 42 seconds later is
inappropriate. The very first thing should have been to control traffic, and
then remain calm. Screaming to a man out of control does NOTHING to defuse. Then
to shoot a man twice when he is already down is criminal. These Hurricane Cops
MUST me stopped. They continue to act like rambo.
For those of you who think this is a remote stretch of highway with little
traffic, think again. It's a very, very busy two-lane state road. These officers had to get him off the road before he caused an accident either
by motorists distracted by his nudity, someone swerving to miss him, or the man
being hit by a car going 65 mph. Given the urgency of the situation, the
officers didn't have time to call a psychiatrist! And without the instantaneous
resources of an entire response team, it would have been difficulty to stop
traffic in both directions, subdue Mr. Cardall, keep his family safe, etc.There are so many unanswered questions...why was he driving, why was he
off his meds, if his wife didn't want help why did she call? What if his wife
or children had also gotten in the roadway? There were other people of concern
to the officers besides the deceased.I'm sorry that he died but the
taxpayers shouldn't be responsible for his mental condition and the result
Put me on that jury and I will vote in favor of those police officers who
prevented an unstable man from running into traffic and throwing rocks at cars
driving by.The police SAVED lives that night.
The backlash I have received proves this society is getting sue-happy. Suing the
state over a bear attack, suing police for trying to use a non-lethal tactic to
subdue a deranged man, suing for a child getting hit in a cross walk. Making
money off of a deceased loved one to me is rediculous. It won't make them come
back, it won't help the pain. It is just money, and we can't take money with us
when we die. Maybe a criminal trial is in order if those police stepped out of
line, but again trying to get money off of something this sad is even more sad.
Have those of you condemning the actions taken by the police ever tried to
subdue someone who is in the middle of a psychotic episode? You may as well try
and catch a cougar with your bare hands. You are going to be hit, kicked, bitten
and spit on. You may be injured, the person you are trying to subdue may be
injured. It isn't exactly a safe thing to be doing.Less than lethal
devices like tasers were designed specifically to be used in situations such as
this. They allow law enforcement officers to keep their distance from a
dangerous person so a scuffle doesn't break out.
Re: TripleCrown | 12:43 p.m. Jan. 13, 2012 "December 12, 2010:
Several Long Beach police officers, with rifles and shotguns drawn, shot Doug
Zerby 21 times, killing him instantly. Zerby was allegedly intoxicated and
wielding what appeared to be a gun (it turned out to be a black metal-tipped
water nozzle)"No one living in California has any room to talk
about police abuse in Utah. The police here don't shoot people holding water
nozzles ...... 21 times.
I believe that part of the reason for the lawsuit is the hope that it might
motivate the powers that be in Hurricane to motivate the police to change their
training tactics of using weapons first and thinking later. If 2 cops can't
subdue a smaller, unarmed, non-violent, naked man without twice using a taser,
neither should be employed as a police officer. Period.
Sad, sad story. Regardless of who's at "fault," my heart goes out to
the Cardell family.
Re: Skippy | 10:04 a.m. Jan. 13, 2012 "Two police officers approach a
naked, unarmed man and they can't control him without using a taser
gun?"Should they have subdued him with a tranquilizer dart? If
the man's wife was unable to control him what did she want the police to do? If
he had been hit be a car she'd have sued them for not tasing him when they had
@Euroskeptic and the Cardall familyIt is indeed unfortunate that
Brian's life ended earlier than the family would have liked. But to blame
others and to continue the tragedy is senseless. I will look back to my
grandmother of an example that is far more "blamable":my
grandfather, who was a coal miner his entire life, had Black Lung. While in he
was undergoing a routine check in a doctor's office; the doctor punctured not
one but both lungs with his instrument. He died.My grandmother said
a few weeks later when one of the children suggested going after the doctor:
"will it bring him back, will it make anything better?" Do
you think the officers, the police department or even area residents will act
differently if they are found responsible in court than they already do?. Or is
this more about how you feel and act?
Two police officers approach a naked, unarmed man and they can't control him
without using a taser gun? And then, the naked, unarmed man who has handcuffs on
tries to get up off the ground and they use the taser again? It sounds to me
like two officers need to go before a jury of their peers and not the brothers
in blue jury.
You people need to look at the facts.1. Hurricane responded with the
police chief. (Chief should know better)2. The caller (Wife) told 911
that the man was having a manic episode, and was naked UNarmed. The man was only
155 lbs.3. When the cops arrived, they were screaming at the top of their
voice at brian. No effort at all was made to defuse. 4. No attempt
was made to block traffic, or assess the situation.. This was in the desert, not
much traffic at all to control..Only screaming and tazer 42 seconds after
arrival. Brian was small, unarmed and naked. 5. After the first taze, he
was on the ground.. Only moments later, they tazed him again. 6. When he
stopped breathing, no attempt made to help him (Even after he was cuffed)7. The wife was detained and interrogated. There were dozens of
way to better handle this situation, but in this case, it was handled rambo
style. and someone died.This story is wrong on so many levels.. How
you can defend these cops is beyond me.
Re: Lane Myer | 3:55 p.m. Jan. 12, 2012 "Did you know they tazered
him when he was lying on the ground with handcuffs on him"It
undermines the credibility of a commenter when they state inaccurate facts. The
police DID NOT taser Mr.Cardall AFTER he was handcuffed. Was the officer
supposed to allow the man to run around on the highway creating a hazard to
other motorists? If Mr. Cardall's wife could have controlled him
without help from the police she wouldn't have called 911. It is sad he died
but it wasn't the fault of the police who responded to her call for help.
Is the company the made the device being sued? No mention of that. Has the
device that was used on this man been tested and retested? No mention. Could be
we have a faulty device that should not have killed, but did.
@ Brahmabull | 1:54 p.m. Jan. 12, 2012 Why do people sue when a
loved one has been killed? Wait until it happens to your wife or kids and then
ask yourself that same question. You are right about people needing
to take responsibility for themselves. That's what this lawsuit is about: making
sure the police take responsibility for their actions.
They tasered someone running naked into a busy street, endangering not only his
life but the life of drivers and the responding HPD. So in order to protect the
public and themselves a cop shot a taser at a mentally-ill man and unfortunately
someone died. I feel sorry for both sides, sorry someone died and sorry that a
cop will have to live the rest of his life that his actions. Actions that he
believed that would protect the public.
Really Delta and Brahma?Did you know they tazered him when he was
lying on the ground with handcuffs on him - completely under control? It sounds
like you need to read a little bit more of what happened before you start into
the family that filed this suit.Please check it out before you
condemn them.You might change your tune.
This is another example of an unjust and rediculous lawsuit. The man was clearly
a danger to himself and others if he was running in the road. Tasing him sounds
like it was justified given the circumstances. Why is it that everybody sues
when a loved one dies at the hands of police? People need to take responsibility
for themselves, and if their loved ones act recklessly they have to live with
the consequences. It is a sad story that he died, but even more sad that they
are trying to make money off of his death.
The man was unstable. He was a danger to himself and could have run out into
traffic, becoming a danger to others. Police acted to bring him under control
using a less than lethal device. Unfortunately the man died. I'm not going to
fault the officers involved for acting. I do have to question the wife's
decision to travel if her husband was known to be that mentally unstable when
off his meds. The man probably should have been under medical supervision.