This was a tough loss of a very winable game. Milsap gave a valliant effort to
try and win this game, but could have used more help from his supporting cast.
Josh Howard provided some spark though. Our guards were seriously
outplayed especially Harris. Point guard is a major weakness on this team and I
hope we see a change there soon. Many of us have reconized that we
need a big 7' defensive stopper in the middle for teams like Dallas and the
Lakers. Tonight you could see why. Maybe Favors being on the floor more than
just 10 minutes would have helped.
Great game by Milsap. He is so good around the basket, unlike his teammate
Jefferson, who is a non-factor when the paint gets packed in. Favors plays
taller than Jefferson and when Favors and Kanter were in the game, Bynum and
Gasol had all kinds of problems on offense. I think coach should have let Favors
and Kanter play more...and Hayward should have played more in the second half.
Even though his shot was off, he is so good at keeping the offense moving.
Watson's play at point definitely superior to Harris's in this game. All in all,
fun game to watch. Go Jazz.
Coming into the season, I was looking forward to watching the young talent
develop. My expectations were that of hard work and positive growth. I did not
put stock into playoff berths or championship contention. I have
enjoyed watching the Jazz and the winning streak has peaked my interest a little
more. That said, I have been confident I would not get worked up over losses
this year. That all changes with the Lakers. Why? because I can't stand them and
the Jazz never beat them. Just one time please!
Excellent effort despite the loss, but the true colors of Devin Harris and CJ
Miles showed brightly tonight. GET 'EM BOTH OUT OF UTAH!
i think...during clutch...the Jazz should look for Hayward...i think he could be
a clutch performer for us...right now...its hard to look for a guy who can
consistently score on mid range for us...maybe josh Howard for this game should
have taken the final shot...i think overall it was a very good game...we held
them just 90 points...we just had a rough night shooting the ball...
I love the way the Jazz are playing right now.My only disappointment
is that Gordon Hayward has become too scared to take almost any shot
whatsover--quite the opposite of who he was in college, and at the end of last
season. What happened to that confident kid who almost led Butler to a national
title upset over Duke? Multiple times over the past several games, Hayward has
driven past his man, creating the opportunity for a good shot in the paint, but
then has passed up the shot under the guise of being unselfish and attempting an
assist.Case in point--with about 11 seconds left in overtime
tonight, with the Jazz down by one, Hayward drove by his man to the basket.
But, rather than taking the ball up strong for a dunk or to draw a foul, he
passed off last minute to Jefferson who was standing only about two feet away
(Jefferson was lucky to field the pass, and then got his shot blocked).I was expecting Hayward to be a leader on this team, which requires a
willingness to take big shots, but lately, he seems to have lost his
Great shooting...Harris 1 - 6Hayward 1 - 7Watson
0 - 4Burk 1 - 4East High School does better than
My thoughts;1- Great effort, the Jazz did not back down, and I think
we just saw how good our team is2- The Jazz look SO much better
defensively this year.3- Kobe is still the best in the game, whoever
said he was 7th is not very smart. LeBron does not have a clutch gene is his
body. I hate Kobe, but he is the best, plain and simple.4- The Jazz
are a good team, they play hard defense, and mostly everyone contributes5- The Lakers no longer have the big height advantage over the Jazz.6- It took Pau Gasol hitting a 3 to beat the Jazz. I gues you got to
live with that.7- The Lakers got worse this year. They lost Odom,
they are older. Steve Blake and Derek Fisher are not going to cut it.8- Josh Howard was a great pick up and the Jazz need to lock him up for a
couple years by offering a contract soon.9- The Jazz still need a go
to guy in the clutch, Howard was great tonight10- Devin Harris?
Anyone seen him? Some help tonight would have been nice. 4-
Terrible shooting from Harris, Hayward, Watson, and Burke.
Jody,Do you relly believe that there was "gutzy defense"
from Bell? His man got 40 tonight and a couple of nights ago his man was held
to a 32 point effort. Not gutzy defense...no defense!
@DukesterYes, it absolutely was gutsy defense. Did you watch the
end of regulation? Raja fought him hard. Show me one player who can
"D" up Kobe.
Good defense cannot be considered by one or two plays in a game. Its overall
performance for the entire game. Not just tonight but every night.
@DukesterI will agree though, I have been disappointed in Devin
Harris pretty much since he got to Utah. He was worthless tonight and should
have had a field day with 97 year old Derek Fisher on him.....
I think that Hayward will some day be a fine player. However, someone needs to
tell him what my dad taught me when I was 5. When you drive to the basket you
are taking the man guarding you with you. Therefore when you get to the hoop,
you must either shoot it or draw the defense TO YOU and THEN dish. Loved how
Hayward drove the lane on the last Jazz possession and then handed the ball to
Jefferson. What was he supposed to do with it? at that point he was guarded by
Bynum (7 foot) and Gasol was in the lane (7 foot) and now Hayward's man was also
standing right next to Jefferson curtesy of Hayward taking his man to
Jefferson.Also next time Hayward drives to the basket and then
throws the ball back out past the three point line, I'm going to lose it. Again
when I was 5 dad tells me " when you drive and leave your feet, you better
know what you are going to do with the ball BEFORE you jump."
Much better effort tonight than when we first played the Lakers. I think we're
getting better though - and for a young team like we have, that's great!Grades:Millsap = A+ (really wish we had three of him)Howard
= A (still don't like him personally but he played huge tonight)Jefferson
= C- ($212,000 per game? Really?)Hayward = D- (two pts and passed on too
many shots - i.e., the potential game winner???)Bell = C- (Woulda been an
F but he came out strong. Refs limited him too)Harris = D+ (1-7 shooting
sucks but five dimes in 31 mins)Watson = D+ (why did we let Ronnie Price
go again?)Miles = D+ (he needs an "airball" penalty clause in
his contract)Favors = C+ (five rebounds and four pts in only 12 mins?
c'mon coach!)Burks = D+ (four shots in three mins of play? really?)Kanter = C- (four boards, three points and a block in 10 mins)Corbin - D+ (why didn't Evans play??? why not call a time out with 11
seconds? why don't you look at your bench during the game sometime?)Overall, big improvement from last Laker game but lots to work on guys. Go Jazz!!!
@ dukesterThe Jazz are a very young team that will experience some
growing pains this year but on an off shooting night they took one of the best
teams in the league into overtime. Maybe that's hard for you to see because
you're so busy looking over the stat sheet to find the worst shooting numbers on
the team tonight to try to discredit the Jazz for a great effort. Kobe scored his points but nobody in the world can guard him one on one. I
thought Bell did a nice job forcing him to make some tough shots. This was a
winnable game for the Jazz and when they are more experienced they will win
these games.Sounds like East High must have a great team though this
11 min for Favors and 9 for Kanter? Aren't we supposed to use our bigs against
How much longer will the poor guard play be ignored by the coaching staff?This game was winnable. Bell, Harris, and Hayward are black holes on this
team. Time to start Watson and Howard!
Until the Jazz get a true 7' center to start, they will have continue to have
issues with the same teams (Lakers, Spurs, etc...). Jefferson is not the answer
here (Mark Gasol gave him fits inside the other night. I know some folks will
say "but he does score a lot of points for the Jazz" How many does he
give up on "D" when he is asked to guard a true center? How many
points does he lose out on because he cannot score on a decent 7' and will not
pass the ball back out?
I agree we should have left our biggest lineup in the game that second half.
Corbin should have used Millsap at the three where he dominates Barnes and
Artest all night. Kanters small stint,derailed there twin towers the entire time
he was in there. His rotation on the pick and roll shut down the mid range game
also. This kid is ready for big minutes! ChiefBrady giving him a C- is absurd!
What he pulled off in 10 minutes against those guys was a solid A+ performance.
We can still point the same glaring problems. Jefferson's inability
to pass and his weak defensive effort on the pick and roll. Haywards lack of
confidence, and inability to shoot his way out of this slump. This kid is better
than this! Weak play from our point guards! Confidence from anyone shooting the
ball from outside! And for those of you who don't care for Howard, you must have
a short memory. This guy was an all star, and could be one of the best players
on the roster.
Jazz fans make me laugh. I follow them mostly to get a chuckle out of fans when
they play. I have never seen so much changing of opinion from one game to the
next.Burks is going to be only a slight upgrade over CJ, both love
to shoot and aren't that good at it.Hayward gets way more credit
from you fans than he deserves. He is never going to be a star. Mike Dunleavy Jr
at best.Favors also isn't as good as the fans think. Coaches see the
players every day and know who will give what. Favors will never be any better
than Drew Gooden.The Jazz will never be a serious contender until
the coaches, team, management and fans quit thinking moral victories. There is
never such a thing as a good loss or a bad win.
Last nights game is now history. But if our coaching staff and fans reflect back
to the stat sheets it makes one wonder where the game mindset was. Kobe played
43 min, Bynum 40 min, Gasol 47 min & Fisher 36 min, our main guys were
Milsap 41 min, Jefferson 43 min, Bell 34 min, Howard 34 min, & Harris 31
min. The point here is only 2 of those players were really effective with min
played, Kobe(40pts) & Milsap(29pts). I can't see why Burks, Kanter, Favors,
and even Evans who never gets any minutes all didn't get more playing time,
because quite frankly Big Al, and Bell did not deserve or play well enough to
get that much PT. Give the young fella's a chance to measure up and see
what they can do or need to improve on Ty! This game wasn't for any championship
or anything, what we need is development of our youth, and playing against these
Laker players was a good place to get that. Against lower level competition
improves conditioning but doesn't let them know where they need to be in this
league. Play them more mins Ty!
The game was great, the behavior of Lakers fans after the game was beyond
despicable. They have no class at all and they are an embarrassment to their
team. What did any of these guys do to win the game? They stand around taunting,
swearing, and acting like a bunch of unruly two year old kids. They need to go
back to L.A. where they truly fit in.
To much detail probaly in that first post but here is a very important stat I
believe that should be looked at. In approx 24 total minutes by Kanter, Favors
and Burks they got 12 rebounds. Our team total for 265 minutes was 46. In other
words the 3 mentioned players got just over 25% of the total team rebounds with
11% of the total team minutes played. Go figure?
Come one Jazz fans, how can you rag on Corbin? Fortydam and chiefbrady. What
are you guys watching?-The Jazz are not turning the ball over this
year much, they have one of the best rates in the league for that-The Jazz are looking good on defense. Remember in past year? Jam the middle
and give stand up 3 pointers all game? The one Gasol hit was garbage, I will
take Gasol shooting a 3 to take the ball out of Kobe's hands any day. It was a
fluke that he hit that.-The Jazz are playing with energy, and
looking good as a team. This is with really no pre season or training camp.
The first few games were brutal with no camp and tough opponents.-Why should they have played Jeremy Evans?? I like the guy, but he cannot
shoot and he is a liability on defense. I like his potential but are you going
to take minutes away from your best players to put him in against the Lakers? I
think not.Good job Ty, keep up the good work. The Jazz will have
ups and downs as a young team, so far so good.
Unlucky - sounds like you have a little too much time on your hands if you only
follow these articles to see how the fans react...
Dukester. Late in the 4th quarter, Kobe was 6 for 16 while being guarded
by Bell. Yes, it was a gutsy defense. As usual, every questionable call was in
favor of mr. superstar. This game shows how far the Jazz have come in the
past 16 days. My guess is they will continue to improve and will finish the
season with 30-35 wins with a chance at a playoff spot.
Not sure why everyone is calling for Jeremy Evans? I would rather have Al,
Millsap, Favors and Kanter in people, and Josh Howard at the 3. Who do you
suggest we take minutes from to put Evans in for. And let's give Raja some
credit, he played Kobe as well as you can. The fact that Kobe had 40 does not
mean Raja did not play well. Kobe is the definition of unguardable. The Jazz
are playing well. @UnluckyIt is not a moral victory. I
do not believe in that. However, I am more encouraged that it took Pau Gasol
hitting a fluke 3 to get past the Jazz then the Jazz getting blown out at home.
By the way, Favors is the real deal, he is only 20 though. I am not that high
on Burks though, we do not need another Ronnie Brewer. I like his athleticism,
but I hope he develops a shot.
Whoa everybody. This was a playoff type of game! Outside shooting has been bad
for a long time so who do you blame players or Hornacek? I heard Shack
commenting on Kobe and he said "most guys will practice 2 to 3 hrs, but
Kobe is in the gym 6 to 7 hrs and doesn't drink it's all about b-ball. They are
young for the most part, and hopefully DWill we see what every body else does in
this team and comes back. He and his family likes it here and he is just what
this team needs plus a 3 point specialist.
My takes:Jefferson, just like Boozer, can't play against the
Lakers.Hayward needed to pull up and shoot a 10 footer on that last
possession. I love that he seems to be pass first, but he needs to start taking
some shots with confidence.Some Jazz players seemed to play timid
against the Lakers. Millsap wasn't one of them. I loved his game last night.
Kanter also wasn't one of them. He needed more minutes last night.The Jazz still need a threat from outside. I can't stand the
Lakers, but they play really good defense.Kobe, and all the all-star
treatment he receives drives me crazy. I love the NBA, but the all-star
treatment that has existed for as long as I can remember drives me nuts. If they
are super-stars, they shouldn't need help from the refs.Kobe knows
he irritates Bell and he seems to enjoy that.Great game to watch.
The Jazz are improving. They are so far exceeding expectations this year. If we
can get a good shooter, this can be a very good team.
I like Corbin but... rookie coach last nite. Going to Jefferson against Bynum
over and over in crunch time was stupid. We had no advantage there and it was
obvious from the is game (5-17) and last game (2-16) come on corbin!!Milsap had the best advantage and we didn't go to him enough down the stretch.
I don't understand the people knocking the Jazz interior D. They stopped Bynum
and Gasol in their tracks. Literally the only guy who could score for LA was
Kobe. 78 points in regulation, Jazz D hasn't been this good in 10 years.
I would say the team is young playing together and so is Corbin young as head
coach.However inserting Hayward in the last minute was not a good
decision. He had struggled for the entire game, not just with his shot but also
he got beat repeatedly by his man.I am hoping this is a rookie
coaching error. As pointed out in earlier remarks the guards were off in their
shooting, as were most of the forwards, the only thing consistent is their
shooting coach..any thoughts about a replacement there? The team really needs
help shooting.Michael Jordan and Magic Johnson were fabulous players
yet it is hard to find worse coaches. Just because you can do it doesn't mean
you can teach it, perhaps the Jazz need to reconsider their shooting coach as
the team stinks at shooting, with exception of Millsap and Howard. The majority
of them shot much better before coming to the Jazz.
Strange to say but Feshenko played well against one team. That was the Lakers.
The reason comes from a previous comment. He was a "stopper in the
middle" who clogged the lane against the Laker "trees". Favors
and Kanter are the future "trees" but they still need someone to clog
the middle. Jefferson doesn't do that and he plays miserably against the
Lakers. Fesenko is a sad story. He was coachable with plenty of raw talent and
no one did. It is obvious that Hayward has the same "disease". For
any well educated person who played a lot of basketball on the playground, as I,
then you know right away what is wrong with Hayward. A previous comment also
graded the guards with D+. This is a major issue that needs correction.
Progressing in the right direction but needs periodic tuning.
Great game,Especially for a young team. The Jazz are #1 in shot
blocking, have the sixth best bench and are taking better care of the ball then
they have in years! Jefferson has been shooting well, but he's gotta
pass more when he's up against tough defenders like Gasol. Nobody can make a
high percentage of push shots on that sort of defense! That being said, all of
our bigs are doing great on defense! Corbin is proving he's the real
deal! Nobody expected this team to do this well! Go Jazz!
@Doug 10We are all experts after the fact, and sitting at home on
the couch. Who should he have in instead of Hayward? Certainly not Miles or
Burks. I am not a huge Hayward fan yet, but who else should have been in.
Hayward is one of the few that can create space and make his own shot. He just
needs to be more aggressive and gutsy, but that will come with time. Or maybe
it never will come, we will see how he develops.
Yes, the Jazz shot poorly. Credit where credit is due, the Lakers' defense is
stifling at times. Good effort, Jazz, much better than the opener.Looking forward to Feb 4th.-Laker Fan in Dallas
When you have a young team, you call time out to set up a play so Hayward
understands he needs to shoot the ball when that close to the basket. CJ haters all out today yet while on the the floor the Jazz were a +7. It is
evident that the couch coaches on here do not understand the game.Bell a defensive stopper? Come on...Kobe went for 40 and had a wide open look
at the end of regulation to win it.Why play Jefferson when he is so
bad last night and keep Favors on the bench all night? Come on Corbin.
1st home loss! Lakers 1st road win? You gotta love it baby!
If we listened to some of the fans on here, our lineup would include:Evans, Fesenko, Tinsley. What is next bringing Ostertag and Adam Keefe out of
retirement. The coaching was good, the Jazz played well. They lost a tough
game to a team that at this time is better. So quit whining and gear up for the
In the height of the Stockton/Malone era, the Jazz were the second best team in
the NBA. We just have to live with that.In the current era, we just
have to accept that the Lakers are a better team than the Jazz. They have been
for years, and until we as players and fans decide that is not acceptable, then
the Lakers will continue to be a better team than the Jazz. We just have to
accept that.The Jazz played as well as we can expect last night.
There aren't many teams in the league Kobe can defeat by himself, but he
continues to defeat the Jazz with little help.The more I watch Kobe
play, the more I respect his game. He has a killer instinct. He does not
accept losing to the Utah Jazz. The guy had 40 points shooting nearly 50% from
the field. Nice game, Kobe.(By the way, I'm pretty sure Raja Bell
would not score 40 points if he took 30 shots in an NBA game.)
Lets see....Harris and Hayward go 2 - 14. Score a mere five points between them
while playing 51 combined minutes. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to see where
the problem was last night. Bell gives up 40 points. Geez, it was a miracle
the game went to overtime. The rest of the players must have been fabulous. CJ
was the least of the problem at the wing last night. +7 while are the starters
were in the negative. We know who should be starting now!!
Fun game to watch, and encouraging that the Jazz held their own this time after
getting embarrased a couple of weeks ago by the Lakers (yes, I'll take the moral
victory/progress with this team at this juncture). I've been down on
Devin Harris, perhaps justifiably so. However, what is becoming clear is that
the Jazz (outside the bigs) are a really bad shooting team. FT% 84% Lakers v
69% JAzz, 3pt% 44 v 28%, and FG% 43 v 39% (the Jazz D gave the Lakers fewer
shots, but they couldn't take advantage of it due to their poor shooting/free
throw percentage). Of the PGs, SGs and SFs (7 total), 5 are
shooting between 18%-25% 3pts; the other two (Harris and CJ) are only at 33%-
rangning from bad to embarrasing. Nearly all of them shoot less than 40%
overall. Even FT% from this group hasn't been impressive. Harris
might get a higher assist rate (his turnover rate is great) if the team could
make consistent shots outside of 15 feet! Maybe instead of trading HArris, the
JAzz should pick up a reliable outside shooter.
Great job by the Jazz!! i saw a lot of good things last night. Ive read some of
these comments and all i see is complaining about the shooting, personnel etc.
stop whining! this team has come a long way, and is going to continue to
progress! its true we did shoot terrible, but we still took the lakers to ot.
sometimes players have off nights, why not talk about the MEN we have playin
down low? Millsap is a beast! and he let gasol know it. i never saw boozer do
that to gasol. Id take Jefferson over boozer and okur any day of the week, and
Kanter and Favors over all the dead weight we've had on the bench for the past
few years(fesenko, koufas, collins, i can keep going if ya want me to) we will
figure things out at PG. they will be fine, this team is moving forward.
(bytheway D wills nets are 2-9, great trade eh?) and we still have a lottery
pick from the williams trade. this team has a future. lets be a little more
positive shall we?
Jazzledazzle.... When did I jump on Corbin? When did I say play Evans? Did you
read my post? I was blogging yesterday at how much I loved Corbin playing the
hot hand! I said I wished he would have played Millsap at the three more,
because that is exactly when we pulled ahead... Both times! If you are playing
against that tall of team, you can put Sap there. Corbin tried it and it worked.
I think they are playing great.. I like Corbin much better than Sloan!
Just find more than 10 minutes or less for Favors, Kanter and Burks Ty,
especially when against tall timber like the lakers. I also think that Evans
needs to play himself onto the bench rather than just be placed there. My other
concern is with this ridiculous cramming of games into such a short time frame
the good possiblities of player injuries. Spreading the minutes now would be
wise to make sure we stay away from that problem, all the while giving the young
men experience that they need against these good teams. Jefferson and
Milsap are logging too many in my opinion, and there are alot of back to backs
and a three set coming up. Wearing down does cause these injuries were seeing
now with other teams, too many games a week, bodies can't stand it.
@JBQ years in the playground? really? i know people who played their
entire life on the playground and still cant play ball...i played on my HS and
college teams...and played the point...the only habit that i think Hayward
should lose...is when he drives...he should not kick it out so often...either
take it...or know where the bigs would go...so you'll just have to drop it to
them...im not sure...why he doesnt assert himself to score...someone needs to
talk to him...fast...he has a lot of upside...but its only his second year...CJ
has already played more than 6 and he is still the same...