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Published: Tuesday, Jan. 10 2012 7:32 p.m. MST

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Trooper55
Williams, AZ

I believe that the churches should stay out of the this issue and should stay with the business of saving people souls. I don't think thaat they should be getting invoule with thie problems of the ilegalls issues. If they want to get into this area than they need to lose their non profit staus. The problems with the ilegalls are thatthey need to be sent back to were they came from and not given any of the benifits that the U.S. citzens have. They should get no special treatment, there are alot of people waiting to enter this country the ilegall way, and they are the ones who should have frist shot not the ones who have enter this country illegally.

s.k.Stevie
magna, utah

Now Nichols ain't you jumping to a conclusion a little to quickly? I find it simplistic and narrow to take a few events and hinge the biggest down turn since the great depression on what you have stated. Greed is perhaps more to blame imho and it runs on both sides of the fence. The Desert News I think ran a article a few weeks or months ago about a illegal who got caught and deported but he gave up his legal rights to his teenage son(I think he was 16) saying something like his boy didn't know Mexico. His son is in foster care and his son is illegal also. Who is most likely footing the bill?? His DAD possible but not likely. Many talk about TEARING apart the family but many decide their kids will be better off living off the foster care dime here. Or perhaps I am wrong and those parents are sending money here to support their kids!!

JBrady
Murray, Ut

Wanting it made easier for people to come legally at a time of high unemployment is not an answer. We can't open the doors to everyone when they want to come. There will always be lines. The demand far exceeds the number of people we can take in each year.

As it is, over a million come here each year. More than any other industrialized country.

@DavidNichols, all birthright children are returned with their parents if they are under 18. (exception being those held by state family services for various reasons) The only exception is if the parents have a relative who is a legal citizen that volunteers to take them.

Our country has lost the "human" in the way we treat our citizens. Our workers have been turned into obsolete labor by the use of cheap illegal labor. People have gotten away with breaking the law for years, it's now caught up with them.

anti-liar
Salt Lake City, UT

"These are real human beings here."

And so are Americans, and their children, as are bank robbers, rapists, and murderers. What's the point? The subtle implication here, of course, is that to enforce immigration law is to treat illegals as subhumans. It is false.

Indeed, the Utah Compact -- part of the stated rationale for holding the conference here -- subtly misleads at every turn.

A few more examples:

It claims to care about enforcement of immigration law, when in actuality, it is opposed to such enforcement.

It pretends to care about the economy, when arguably, it cares only about the coffers of certain special interests.

It subtly implies that we have wronged illegal aliens, when actually, they have wronged us.

It imlies that Americans are on trial when, in fact, illegal aliens should be on trial for breaking our laws.

It implies that the law breaks up families, when in fact, law-breakers break up their own families.

Most egregiously, it subtly implies that "loving thy neighbor" means endorsing and looking the other way at illegality, when actually, it is time for our neighbors to start showing a little "love thy neighbor" to their neighbors to the North.

anti-liar
Salt Lake City, UT

"These are real human beings here."

And so are Americans, and their children, as are bank robbers, rapists, and murderers.

So what's the point?

The subtle implication here, of course, is that to enforce immigration law is to treat illegals as subhumans. It is false.

Indeed, the Utah Compact -- part of the stated rationale for holding the conference here -- subtly misleads at every turn.

A few more examples:

It claims to care about enforcement of immigration law, when in actuality, it is opposed to such enforcement.

It pretends to care about the economy, when arguably, it cares only about the coffers of certain special interests.

It subtly implies that we have wronged illegal aliens, when actually, they have wronged us.

It implies that Americans are on trial when, in fact, illegal aliens should be on trial for breaking our laws.

It implies that the law breaks up families, when in fact, law-breakers break up their own families.

Most egregiously, it subtly implies that "loving thy neighbor" means endorsing and looking the other way at illegality, when actually, it is time for our neighbors to start showing a little "love thy neighbor" by respecting our sovereignty and laws.

Mr. Bean
L.A., California

@John Pack Lambert of Michigan:

"Our laws need to be changed to value keeping families together."

It's not that tough to keep families together... illegals just take your families with you as you exit.

"Right now our legal system too often separates couples as well as children from parents as part of the immigrantion process."

The legal immigration process does no such thing. Come here leagally and you and your families are welcome.

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