Photo found of suspected shooter dressed as terrorist
I can't believe some of these comments. mtmanmc are you serious? You can tell
he's an expert marksman from his picture? Really? You wonder how many daily
firefights he was involved in? I can tell you. Zero. Big fat nada. He never
served in a war zone. And Economist, you must work for CNN or MSNBC to spin
this so well. Your spin is so much more grand than what you accuse them of
doing. It's easy to sit back and criticize when one doesn't know the facts and
based on these comments, few of you know much of anything. I'm disgusted by the
cheap shots and outright disrespect.
"a photograph of Stewart was found inside his home in which he looks like a
terrorist"I have a photograph in which I look like Darth Vader.
NielT - may have a point and I am willing to concede that if an automatic gun
was used that would shot multiple rounds per minute/second, that with
unfortunate luck and the right angles, it's possible that most of those injured
and/or killed could have been hit severely within the first minute or so of this
tragic incident. Such as fate would have it, would also be a terrible set of
All in a night's work is all.
"Also Monday, Smith confirmed that a photograph of Stewart was found inside
his home in which he looks like a terrorist."It appears to be a
recent photo, based on his current beard size, and it depicted an individual
dressed as a terrorist with some kind of bomb device," the county attorney
said."Please explain what it means to "look like a
terrorist" and to be "dressed as a terrorist". I'd say men in
this area better be careful if they are bearded ....
sad situation... but odd in the 'facts'... no one has confirmed that Stewart had
'any' guns in the house... the DA is questionable in their statements.--so the
question is, "After the police broke into his house... did he disarm one of
them and start defending himself?"
Wow sounds like they are trying to make things up to justify the SWAT Raid for
the illegal growing of some MJ in the guy's own home. Now he is a bomb making
Terrorist. Terrorist? Really?Frankly I would be interested to see
the balistic reports. What angles the shots were fired, and from who's weapon
they came from.
The entire episode is so sad. This shooter had been busted twice
before, once for no seat belt and another time for no insurance. Those facts
may be more pertinent in this article than 600lbs of meth and 2000 lbs of pot
found last year, which has no bearing at all on this case.Nobody
knows for sure how they would react if people come busting through your door
after dark, but if you have been trained in the military chances are you will be
armed and supposedly in this country you are allowed to defend yourself and
abode.Trajic on both sides of the story, but it is sad to see how
the police are trying to cover themselves now. If there are more than 100
bullet holes think how you would react if you were trying to defend yourself and
had that much firepower raining down on you.
This is not a time to "reevaluate" anything. It's a tragedy that a
dangerous fiend didn't have the sense to stop shooting. There's no sympathy for
a guy like this. IT IS NEVER OKAY TO SHOOT A COP. Let
alone, cops that are trying to help their fallen comrades.There's a
family without a dad in our community tonight, kids going to bed tonight missing
him. They serve and protect our neighborhoods and deserve better. This drug-addled nonsense about legalizing drugs only gives the nutjobs the
mental nudge to mindlessly pull the trigger the next time.
I think we really need to re-evaluate the "war on drugs." We've been
fighting both sides of this war for too long, and it costs our country both in
financial as well as human terms.
Jury nullification anyone?
An awful lot of people rushing to judgement here. Anybody can be an armchair
quarterback. Obviously this guy was loaded for bear. How are the police
supposed to know that. My educated opinion is that he opened fire with an
automatic weapon. I will leave it that.
bslack - I appreciate the observation about trying to save the injured, but
where is the sense of getting injured and then one person getting injured and
then another getting injured... Perhaps the focus should have been on making
sure that more people weren't injured first by focusing on again securing the
sense and providing at least enough oover power first, at least smoke or
something - even bullet proof shields. I've been taught that in any dangerous
scene that one must make sure that it's as safe as possible. Like if there's a
downed power line, one must make sure that it's safe, unless there is imminent
threat which there may have been, but then the number of injured seems so high
it suggestive that something may have gone wrong. I can understand, two or
three, but not six people injured or killed. That's about half of those who
were in the first strike force, a 50% casualty rate! That's almost what
happened when in the Civil War when they lined up in columns and faced the front
What does a terrorist look like? Timothy McVeigh? Mark Hoffman?
This case is getting stranger by the day. Details that belong in a Court of Law
are being share with the public by the news media. What kind of fair trial will
this man receive in the State of Utah? More and more details keep being release
each day. It's sounding more like a police cover up for there engagement. A
search warrant can be served anywhere on the person listed on that warrant. From
the photo of the Veteran, I can tell he was an expert with weapons. I wonder how
many daily fire fights he was involve with while in the service. I see many
error costing the lost of life and wounded police officers. Why is Weber County
trying this case in the news media?
"...a plant with healing qualities." ? Learn some pharmacology.
tabuno, really, in all your experience you make this comment. If possible, I am
sure the officers are trained to secure the scene before approaching wounded
individuals; however, the officers are also trained to try and pull a fallen
officer to safety to avoid further injuries. The best laid out plans are always
subject to error based upon how the criminal reacts. Obviously, Stewart decided
to make it a shoot-out and an officer was killed while others were injured.
Spin Doctors or perhaps waiting for more details until the true picture comes to
"This is a massive investigation." You think? Then why not keep your
mouth closed. The defendant is in custody. He's not going to harm the public any
further. Public safety is not a risk. So, why the details now? "It appears to be a recent photo, based on his current beard size, and it
depicted an individual dressed as a terrorist with some kind of bomb
device."And this fact is relevant to the public because why?I've worked in the Criminal Justice field for over 20+ years so I
understand the slant of prosecutorial offices, but this "press
conference" seems to go a little far.My heart goes out to
Officer Francom, the officers who were wounded and all of their families.But, Re: Economist-- you raise some very valid observations.
cultivation of marijuana... growing a plant. A plant with healing properties.
Priorities are way off here.
I've been taught that before a person attempts to save another person, that one
must secure the scene or risk becoming a victim themselves and thus elevating
the likelihood that more people will be seriously injured or killed. I hope
that wasn't the case here because, if so, then some these trained officers
actually could be held, in part, responsible for what happened or at least the
training they received might be suspect. Or maybe the lesson I was taught was
I think some of y'all are rushing to a quick judgement. The police really
aren't pursuing too many petty cases of pot. The folks I know who have been
caught with petty amounts of marijuana get off with not much more than a fine in
addition to possibly a warning from their employer. I would suspect this perp
is in a lot more trouble than growing a few plants.The police had to
arrive to the home, as their warrant was a search warrant. They can't hardly
search the home if they arrived to Wal-Mart. The police knew who the perp was
when they arrived, which is why they had reinforcements with them. But nobody
would have predicted the perp was capable of barracading himself in and shooting
policemen and after policemen in the head, ambush style, even if they were
assisting their wounded.The perp deserves a trial, and it is
warranted to pursue the death penalty. I applaud the police for not killing the
perp during the ambush.
Re: Goet | 1:14 p.m. Jan. 9, 2012 "Are they coming for me,
too?"All depends. Do you store your powder in a pipe with a
fuse and caps on both ends?
@Economist & Goet: You said it. This is just the govt. spin doctors at work.
They *should* have known better than to go after this guy, a decorated vet. and
trained marksman, in the matter that they did.All for a couple of
pot plants.What a waste.
I have cupboards of bomb making material.Caps, black powder, bleach,
ammonia, fertilizer, gasoline, pipes, duct tape, wire, batteries, timers.Are they coming for me, too?
Okay, let me get this straight...A super militarized Narcotics
Strike Force Team is assembled to serve a Search Warrant on a marijuana smoker
who works as Wal-Mart in the middle of the night. The operation turns into a
botched raid with 6 wounded (several in the hip) and 1 dead while capturing the
suspect in the Shed located in the back of the property.Several Days
Later (a week even), the police detonate an unknown explosive material that they
are "uncomfortable in moving", not a "bomb"(as per SL Trib).
And, all of this happens in the backdrop of articles lavishing praise on the
militarization of our police force and the tactics used on all suspects without
regard to strategy or threat level.So to sum this up, a botched
search warrant operation somehow morphs into a glorified tragedy in the wake of
capturing an insurgent. Yet, the original scope of the warrant or the affidavit
has not been released. If this isn't spin, then I honestly don't know what