When did the choice-action-consequence become separated? Who teaches their
children they can do whatever they want, yet does not allow them the blessing of
facing the consequences of those choices? No excuses, no one else gets blamed, I
made this choice now I am responsible for the results.
Re: Happy Valley Heretic | 5:04 p.m. Jan. 4, 2012 "Yeah! A 9 year old
stealing deserves to have his collar bone broken by an adult using excessive
force"No, the 9-year old didn't "deserve" to have his
collar bone broken. It was a "consequence" of getting taken down
after he attacked a police officer. There must have been a discipline problem
the teachers couldn't handle or they wouldn't have felt the need to call the
police in the first place.There are consequences attached to
behavior .... as the two folks arrested in Nevada for kidnapping are about to
find out the hard way.
maybe if this child had had a good old spanking when he was younger he would
have never stolen and never would have been injured by an officer for stealing.
i agree with previous post by rifle man this kid is going to end up in prison.
Children need discipline funny thing is when schools paddled children you didn't
have this type of behavior and as many juvenile crimes. it is costing the tax
payer too in the form of detention centers etc. I am glad my parents taught me
to be a good and productive citizen of society.
@echotech"In her report, officer Albrand claims that (the boy)
grabbed for and took hold of her weapon, but the assertion is false"How do you know the officer's claim was false? Were you there? Were
the grandparents there? Did those who were there realize what was happening?
Even if the student weren't going for the officer's gun but was attacking her he
paid the consequences of his actions.Maybe a couple of million
dollars will sooth his hurt feelings. Then again maybe the jury will give the
officer high fives.
Yeah! A 9 year old stealing deserves to have his collar bone broken by an adult
using excessive force.Some of you really want to live like the folks
in the middle east whom you seem to detest.
At 9 years old a child should know right from wrong. He stole and then he fought
with teachers and police. Now his Grandparents are making excusses for his bad
behavior by sueing the police and most likely everyone else who was or even
could have been involved ie; school, teachers, principal, police officer, etc. I
would hope that the Judge would be wise enough to see that this kind of behavior
will only get worse. I would be so ashamed if my child stole, even more so if he
fought with the teachers and I would be mortified if the police were called. The
blame for this incident needs to rest solely on the adults with custody of this
@Flying FinnIt is also interesting how quick people are to take
sides against the "thief" simply because an officer is involved.
"In her report, officer Albrand claims that (the boy) grabbed for and took
hold of her weapon, but the assertion is false and no other witnesses made that
assertion," the suit says. Multiple witnesses and the cop is the only one
saying he went for the weapon?
@MidvalieanInteresting how some people are so quick to take sides
against the police based the comments of the grandparents who weren't there and
the thief who thought it might be a good idea to try and take the officer's gun.
The student should be thankful he got off with only a broken shoulder. In
Brownsville, Texas today police shot and killed a 15-year old teenage student
who thought it might be a good idea to wave a pistol around at his school. The
term that comes to mind is "zero tolerance".
Re: Midvaliean | 10:45 a.m. Jan. 4, 2012 "Who will be this cops next
victim?"I'm guessing that it will be the next suspect that
tries to take that officer's weapon ... or does anything else that threatens
that officer. Only we don't call them "victims". They are suspects
until they've been convicted in court for this misbehavior.As Flying
Finn pointed out I'm willing to take the word of an officer over that of an out
of control thief ever day ..... and so will the jury.
If a parent had broken the kids bone while trying to restrain or punish him the
public would be outraged. Lets get serious. The kid's behavior aside, I want
cops that can restrain a kid without breaking bones. KNOW your own strength,
KNOW how to restrain a CHILD. End of story, this cop is out of line and
potentially out of control. Who will be this cops next victim?
Why is a 9-year old boy living with his grandparents? It would appear, based on
his behavior, that someone in his life has failed to teach him right from wrong.
Sooner or later society is going to start expecting this juvenile to live by
the laws we have agreed upon. If he injured himself as a result of reaching for
an officer's gun it is his own fault.So who is lying? Is it the
police or is it the thief?
Filing a lawsuit doesn't mean you're going to win. Hopefully the jury will give
the officer a medal. With his attitude at age 9 he'll be in prison before he's
21. In hindsight maybe the officer should have tased him. It gets their
attention and helps them focus on behaving.
I used to work in store and a few parents would want me to scold their children
for stealing. As adults and yes even police officers, this is walking a fine
line. I am sure the officer did not intentionally break this boys collar bone. I
am sure that this couple intentionally called a police officer to do the job
they felt they could not handle. If you are going to put someone else in charge,
there could be negative consequences. Man up parents and do the right thing.
This to me is a stupid thing to be getting upset over. The right thing would
have been the 9 year old not stealing in the first place and taking the item
back with apologies and working off his misdeed. But then again, I guess the
parents felt that someone else could do the job better.