When it all comes down to it, we just have to feel good about ourselves and
sometimes that takes courage.
"Los Angeles" when used in this article is being used as a metaphor
for the hyped TV-movie industry and those connected with its production. It is
not meant to cover Tarzana and San Pedro let alone Torrance and Pasadena.The comments about "Utah Mormons" are all the more biazarre
because one of the women mentioned in this article, Amy Whitcomb, was born and
raised in Florida.I think this article very accurately cut to the
heart of the issues with the goals and values of those who produce TV.
"Basically we were just kind of thrown into the real world, out of our BYU
bubble, and I realize more what a bubble that is."Only light
has existence and life. Darkness is merely is the absence of light."And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men
loved bdarkness rather than light . . . For every one that doeth aevil bhateth
the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be
reproved."Your BYU bubble IS the real-real world, not the
other. We're in the time when the wheat and the tares grow together because we
aren't given to know which is which. Some at BYU will turn out to be tares, some
in the other world will turn out to be wheat. Just love them all with the pure
love of Christ. Trust Him to sort it out.Carry on --BYU Grad,
I don't know about you, Thinkman, but I'd be extremely nervous about a naked
person, no matter how friendly or courteous, approaching me or my family.
J-TX,There is depravity in Utah, yea, even in Utah County!I too read from the article that the girls were only able to survive because
of the priesthood holding men. I think it is good that people stick up for
their values but showing some shoulders and some knees and thighs doesn't make
one immodest or a depraved individual which is often what people on this board
and in Mormon and non-Mormon communities make of those who were more revealing
attire.What matters is not what people wear but how they treat
others. I respect others who respect me and who are kind, patient,
non-judgemental, courteous and open-minded and strive to do the best they can in
all aspects of their lives. Clothing or the lack of it don't make the person.
Hutterite - I completely agree with you. Sorry about the generality, but
"Utah Mormons" tend to over-shelter and insulate their children from
the world, instead of educating them with frank, open, honest discussions. So
they leave the state unprepared for the depravity and dangers that exist at
every corner, around the world.While overall these girls did a good
job with being relatively more modest, I watched every episode and there were
plenty of their outfits that, while more modest than their counterparts and team
mates, were definitely NOT LDS YW standards. Concessions you have
to make sometimes in Hollywood, but DN needs to be more accurate, rather than
lauding only and turning an unjournalisticly blind eye.
I like to read about young people sticking to there values. Great story.
By adhereing to their standards, these wonderful young ladies will never have
regrets and will, by example, demonstrate that an individual can enjoy different
aspects of life and still be true to themselves.Your an inspiration.
That's the problem with the 'real world' out beyond the curtain. It has to be
dealt with on it's own terms, and it is not supressed en masse like it is here.
I'm not surprised when people from here experience culture shock because they're
not equipped to deal with it.
This may be an accurate portrayal of their experience, but it's unfair to tar
all of Los Angeles, the largest city (and my birth place) of the state with the
most LDS outside of Utah. Just as it's unfair to reality to call
their experience "the real world." Reality is what is permanent,
eternal. The chimera of back-stage parties they saw is not.The
Church and our friends are doing well in the real real world here in Los
I think the point was that it is possible to compete and keep some standards,
which I am thankful to see, as I have children working in the industry. It sometimes seems we are so far from the norm many of our talented
members can never reach their aspirations. These men and women are blazing the
way, getting Hollywood to cave on things like working on the Sabbath day, and
wearing immodest clothing. If enough people of all religions and values could
stand up for what they believe, we may see entertainment changing for the
better, and I, for one, find this a refreshing change.
I couldn't even finish the article, the first few paragraphs made it seem like
those women would be lost without priesthood holding men there.
These women sould like they are intelligent and self assured. I really liked
the part where one of them talked about having to chose the battles you wage.
This is an important thing to know. People need to chose the issues that matter
most and focus on them. In an ideal world female singers would
probably not be made to wear sequins at all. At some level they are not part of
"modesty", they are part of gaudy showiness. However, we have to pick
our battles and these women seem to have wisely chosen the ones that matter most
and can be won.
Kudos for modesty!
So proud of these girls. Well done.