@coltakashi, That is never going to happen. @crunchem,Oregon is a strong blue state. Too bad for your
brother. @CI,I fear for your sanity when Obama wins a
If Romney is elected, I can imagine stories about the ward he will attend when
home at the White House, as well as arrangements made so they can have Home
Teachers and Visiting Teachers. We Mormons are going to look disappointingly
ordinary to most people, instead of scary.
@christyI'm glad my brother lives in Oregon and has the ability to
cancel out your vote; or is that mean to say that?
Eddie, just because you wouldn't want to worship in somebody's church, doesn't
mean that for someone else, it may not be the beginning of faith. They may not
stay there once they find it isn't enough, or they may find something you and I
don't know is there. Since I have never met the man or worshipped there, I do
not know what is there that he offers his congregation, so please let us not
judge him or his congregation. And I am sure that no decent presidential
candidate on any side of the fence, including the one so many are apparently
wanting to succeed here, would encourage such a judgmental attitude, at least
not as a campaign issue, and certainly not as an LDS person.
Brother Chuck Schroder;My oh my, you do get around. Had it not been for
your presumably first-hand obsrvation regarding all of the nifty conversational
tidbits that took place in the LDS meeting house foyer between Mitt R. and ward
members, I would never have known that he was signing Books of Mormon and
stumping for Iowa votes. Please keep up your factual and enlightening reports
and blogs. You sir are to be commended for reporting the truth, the whole truth
and nothing but the truth!!
For all of you who thought that it was inappropriate for DN to run this article:
maybe it would be quuestionable for a different newspaper. But I'm sure many DN
readers are interested in this. I actually wondered yesterday as I watched the
news if Mitt Romney attended church in Iowa on Sunday. Not every story has to
be political or politically correct.By the way I do think some of
the above comments are insightful about Romney quietly attending church, rather
than campaigning in church as many Democrats and many conservative Republicans
@ Eddie, what does this story have to do with President Obama? Must he be your
whipping post for everything?
Christy-You finally said something I agree with. Actions speak
louder than words. That is why I will never support or agree with BO.
If Mitt is elected POTUS, I wonder how the RS visiting teachers or home teachers
will fulfill their callings. Just a thought. Bet Bro. Romney won't be called
to be a scout leader.
There are actually good arguments for allowing candidates to present their
political messages in Church. I support and uphold the LDS Church's ban on
political speechs in meetinghouses, but people have made well reasoned arguments
that the fact that it exists leads to Church members being more mono-partisan
than they would be otherwise.
Mick,You might want to read what I wrote, a second time. I'm not saying whomever disagrees with me is stubbornly biased. I'm saying that to think in such absolutes - Romney is sincere, and 'BO' is
godless - regardless of available facts, regardless that you can't know what is
in another man's heart, is to be biased. And yes, stubbornly so. I
really don't think Romney is a bad guy. I wish more people liked Huntsman. I
like part of what Ron Paul has to say. I think Gingrich might be a nice
grandpa, and Santorum a decent husband and father. I've seen Bachmann be sweet
when she's not crucifying the president. I obviously like President
Obama, and will vote for him again. I don't weigh which candidate
believes in God the best. Actions speak louder than words. And I
think Fox News and the AM radio shock jocks poison and corrupt good people's
Christy-Your last comment was extremely hypocrital. Who is "so
stubbornly biased?" Why is it that if someone doesn't agree with you they
are stubborn and biased and you are just well rounded?I don't agree
with you. I don't agree with BO. And I don't agree with liberal social justice
theology taught by Rev. Wright. That is a differing opinion, not a stubborn or
Christy:Right back at you!
We don't know what is in anyone's heart when they go to church. Most here seem
to know exactly what's in Romney's heart, and that it's all goodness and
light.Most here also seem to know exactly what's in Obama's heart,
and that no good exists therein. Being so stubbornly biased shows
unwillingness to learn, much less accept, anything new or different outside of
your bubble. This is something I believe we could all work on.
Some more than others.
no fit in SGThen don't read it!
Has anyone ever wondered how the DN will function, should Romney fail in his
quest to be the President of the United States?We have til November to be
bombarded with numerous daily stories about Romney and his family.Just
wondering what is left to write about.
"The LDS church specifically forbids using its services, activities, or
facilities for campaigning or partisan political events. The church is neutral
on candidates or parties, and on issues except those of moral or social
significance. Leaders are expected not to involve the Church in these
issues."Californian #1How come most of the negative
commentors can't understand that simple statement?If it is news that all
the other candidates are going to church, why isn't it news here in the west
that Romney goes to church?Of course there would be no political statement
- the LDS Church does not allow it, although I'm dying to have a good political
discussion in Sunday School. But alas, I can't.Obama's church service is
the golf links and when he finally goes in Hawaii it is news and is reported.
Theocracy here we come. Next, all we need to do is decide whose version gets
top o' the heap.
Since when did BO step foot into a Church? If you are talking about Rev.
Wright's "Church" I would beg to differ with you. I think he calls
himself a "Christian" but in his service he takes the name of the
Lord, his God in vain in a political statement. I would hardly call that a
church.Mitt's my man. I had not made up my mind as of a few days
ago, but he has convinced me he is the right one for the job.
Christy-Several have tried to give Obama "credit" for
attending Rev. Wright's church for over 20 years but BO has done everything he
could to sweep that info under the rug.
At least it was low keyed and he wasn't going out there to call attention to
himself. Is it noteworthy, I don't know. At least let him worship without the
whole DN letting us know where he worshipped. Thats personal.
How was he supposed to act? Church is not a campaign venue. The DesNews should
change it's name to The Mitt Times. What a non story.
Good for Mitt......I like a guy that knows when he's in church that politics and
religion don't mix. I'm for him!
Romney has owned his faith publicly and has never faltered. His behavior has
been completely appropriate at all times. He has not used it in any way unlike
Under what circumstances were they introducing themselves to the congregation?
Sunday school or priesthood meeting?
My Point was that Romney does not want to highlight his Religion to the GOP as
it is generally seen as a negative.You think it is coincidence that
Perry, Santorum and Bachmann weave religion into their campaign whenever
possible?Their religion plays to the base. Romney's?
Not so much.Fairly obvious, really. And a good campaign strategy.
"When are we going to have a DNews article about what Mitt Romney had for
breakfast?"Frankly, it doesn't matter what the subject of the
article is; some people are going to find Mitt Romney to be an evil person
regardless of what he does.
Why can't the Dn at least tile their article correctly? It is not a "Mormon
Service" it is an LDS service. You would think the DN of all papers would
get it right.
Mike RichardsMr. Romney seems to be the only candidate who attends
church to worship God. The others, at least the ones that we read about, think
that church is just another campaign stop.It's refreshing to finally
see a devout man do what a devout man should do - attend church for the right
reason.washcomomRomney leaves the political scene
outside of the church services, where they should be. Separating church and
state. Gotta hand it to him.===========I
find these sentiments outstanding leaps of selective reasoning. Neither person
who made these comments have ever even thought of giving President Obama any
benefit of a doubt when he even mentions God, let alone steps foot in a church.
I guess it's pandering, unless you're Mitt Romney.Yes, Romney has
the Mormon vote cinched up nicely. Is this really news?
Joe Blow: I dont see your point, and unless you are a gifted mind-reader, I
doubt you have any more insight on Romneys intentions than I do.
So does Harry Reid and so do many other candidates and public officials, LDS or
otherwise, of both parties. They go to their religious meeting of choice, and
worship, and if they are visitors, do whatever is customary. Case closed. And
yes, as we often discuss everything in the foyer from dinner to dresses, I bet
Mitt had some things to say that would not have been proper in the meeting,
although I have heard such things come as close to being discussed as one dared
do. And in regard to the comment about English teachers, I'm glad I didn't have
to say that, although I'm glad someone did--given my opinions, it may have been
taken too lightly. But if one wants to make it a point of pride, one should do
it with correct spelling, grammar, punctuation, and sentence structure. Thank
you for your time, and happy new year!
Romney leaves the political scene outside of the church services, where they
should be. Separating church and state. Gotta hand it to him.
"Mitts counterparts are milking religious congregations all across
Iowa,"Yes, because they believe it will help them get GOP
votes.The only reason that Romney is not is because it WONT help him
and will most likely Hurt him.Please don't make it sound as if his
motives are more noble.
The LDS church specifically forbids using its services, activities, or
facilities for campaigning or partisan political events. The church is neutral
on candidates or parties, and on issues except those of moral or social
significance. Leaders are expected not to involve the Church in these issues.In some churches, Sunday services actually feature candidates who mount
the pulpit to garner votes. They vie for the pastor's endorsement and bash each
other to a chorus of "amens" from the congregation. This is quite
common in some demographic sectors, at least where I live. It isn't unusual to
see candidate endorsements in the official (county-issued) voter material by
"Reverend ______ ______, Pastor, ______ Church."We don't
hear a lot of agitating about the need for those churches to lose their
religious tax-exempt status.But I digress.Political
candidates, or the POTUS, or any public figure, ought to be able to go to
religious services without a lot of fanfare and commotion. If any politician
wants to let God influence his life, please! please! don't ANYBODY interfere!
And the congregation of good and faithful people deserves the right to worship
in peace and quiet.
Sorry Brother Schroeder...No votes again on your comments. Why not
try something else for a career.
...This sounds a lot like what I did at church today, except I didn't have to
stand up as a visitor...Nice, informative article...I hope we see more of the
same as Mitt rides this wave.
Deseret News: Really? You post an article about Romney going to church?Just because someone goes to church doesn't mean they can be trusted. If you
need an example, look to Utah County's troubles with financial schemes on the
premise of being a member.
@mightymite "Items like this is why there is discust on the
mormondom culture."...not to mention 'discust' among teachers
MY TRUTHFUL VIEWS.CAN YOU BELIEVE that Jacob Fullmer, now a member
of Mitt Romney's Iowa field staff, said the presidential candidate didn't
mention Iowa's upcoming caucus vote, during LDS Church services Sunday. But
after the closing prayer, out in the Foyer was more then just a general
discussion of his issues and experiences with Mormonism and that he needs their
votes in 2012. Mitt remembers the French, social center, from Old French foier
way to much also. I'm sure he posed for pictures and signed several Book of
Mormon's also.I told you I would tell you the truths.I
didn't say you would like them.Right Brother Romney?.
DN is not doing a good job of informing it's readers! We don't know where
Romney had dinner last night, how he celebrated the New Year, nor how many
houses he owns or what they're worth.
Mr. Romney seems to be the only candidate who attends church to worship God.
The others, at least the ones that we read about, think that church is just
another campaign stop.It's refreshing to finally see a devout man do
what a devout man should do - attend church for the right reason.
Every candidate needs to keep their religion personal. All the time.
This is not a news article! Items like this is why there is discust on the
I heard a lot on a big network that all the others were at one church or another
trying to get votes and they named them all but not Mitt. I guess they just will
not go near an LDS church building. I think that it was wonderful what Mitt did
and how he did it. I would love to see what the others said in their
"meetings" and then how the media plays (spins) it.
Well on second thought Uncle Rico..I agree with you. Sad day when political
campaigners use their religion as a campaign tool. Good for Mitt!
That really impresses me, I heard a story about Daddy Huntsman (SR) at a Stake
Conference that was the total opposite. No way to know if it is true, but it
was very self important. I am not surprised that Romney was low key, I think
that is really who he is, but he is a good leader and has good ideas.
Actually, I do think this is newsworthy. Mitts counterparts are milking
religious congregations all across Iowa, using the pulpit as a political tool,
pronouncing their belief, saving themselves, declaring thier deviations etc.
While Romney, the so called "cultist" show up to church low- key and
refuses to use it for polical means. If Romney was flip- flopper, he would have
denounced his religion long ago, it gives him 0 advantage in Iowa and beyond
from an election standpoint.
Why is this even in the news? Mitt was at Church...one is there to worship..not
do campaigning. Mitt did what any other LDS would do. Good grief..!
First, although I am a Romney supporter and I think it is cool he stays low-key
going to Church even at this time, I don't think this is really news worthy. He
probably does the same thing every week that he visits a ward or branch other
than his own.Second, if I was Mitt and I wanted things to be low-key
at church and a young volunteer got this on the news, I would be a little mad at
Fullmer. Mitt tries to go to Church and not have it be a big deal, and Fullmer
gets it in the news (at least in Utah). Oops.