Incumbency has its early privileges in new district
I like Matheson. I am a lifelong registered Republican. The Utah GOP has been
hijacked by extremists, radicals, and bullies. This happened many years ago, and
Matheson recognized it. That is why he ran as a Democrat. He is a
"moderate" Democrat, and is level-headed in considering ALL his
constituents, not just partisan politics. And he has the courage to fight the
gerrymandering games played by the Utah Republicans. His voting record reflects
this. He is NOT the stool pigeon of Obama and Palosi. He is wisely independent
and thoughtful.I like Matheson. He would have my vote.
"Voodoo math", oh dear.How sad. That really made me sad
when I read that. CJ, the "voodoo math" I am using is
simple subtraction and comparison. I believe they teach subtraction in
kindergarten, for goodness sakes. Many kids can easily perform basic subtraction
(which is all I used) before they even enter school. And you call it
"voodoo math". That really is sad.My numbers are correct.
"When former president Bill Clinton left office in 2000 there
was a $86.4 billion surplus. When former president George W. Bush left office in
2008 there was a $1.5 TRILLION BUDGET DEFICIT. Because Sen. Menendez was correct
in stating that there was a $1.5 trillion budget deficit when George W. Bush
left office and the budget surplus that Bill Clinton left from his presidency
had turned into a deficit, we rate Sen. Menendezs statement TRUE."-Meet The
Facts, FACT-CHECK: Sen. Bob Menendez National debt increased 72% during the
Bush admin, there was a 1.5 trillion budget deficit at the end of his term,
7-18-10Peter tells me don't get caught up in the numbers, CJ calls
subtraction "voodoo math".Sad.
Mark,I am not interested in your voodoo math, it is a verifiable
fact that he has added more than all the previous Presidents combined, it has
been on every news channel out there, even the liberal ones admit it, then they
try to shift part of the blame to Republicans but they can't, he has done in
three years,its an indisputable fact and even Democrats are not denying it. Why
do you think he can't run on his record? Why do you think there is a draft
Hillary movement afoot in the party? I don't know where you come up with your
"facts" and numbers, they are not correct. With all due respect, you
are simply wrong about it. Please see numbers from the Congressional Budget
Office, they don't lie and you can't make the shoe fit.
mark, don't get caught up in the numbers or the spelling. The point I'm making
is simply ALL incumbents need to go. You can't solve problems with the same
minds that created them.
CJ, you claim, Four billion a day is what [President Obama] has spent as
President, that is more than ALL of the Presidents before him put together!!The national debt stood at $10.626 trillion the day President Obama was
inaugurated. Today the national debt is 15.161 trillion. President Obama has
added 4.535 trillion to the debt as of today. As you can see, that
is less then the accumulated debt of all previous presidents.Regarding your belief that we should not discuss the damage done to this
country by President Bush and the Republicans: When George W. Bush
took office, the national debt was $5.73 trillion. When he left, it was $10.7
trillion. That's a difference of $4.97 trillion. The difference
between Bushs and Obamas debt? President Bush had a surplus the day he took
office. If President Bush and the Republicans had been responsible fiscal
stewards the national debt would be paid off by now.Nevertheless,
the deficit is clearly too high. I was outraged when Republican Presidents
Reagan, Bush Sr., and Bush Jr. ran up the debt on their watch. Were you?
Mark,Do you realize that it doesn't matter how long the Democrats
have controlled anything? In three years the Democrat in the White House has
spent 4 billion a day, more than all of the others before him put together. The
rest is irrelevant!!! Wake up!!
@cymrulWhatever the Republicans did or didn't do before him is
totally irrelevant as Obama has made it worse by a factor of about 10. Four
billion a day is what he has spent as President, that is more than ALL of the
Presidents before him put together!! Stop whining about Bush, he hasn't been in
office for over three years now, and anything he did is completely dwarfed by
the community organizer who thinks money grows on trees. You guys
don't seem to understand that by himself, without any help, he has spent your
kids' and grandkids' entire lifetime income and is now working on your great
grandkids' income. He has done this without the help of the Republicans who have
been trying to stop him, but it is like trying to turn the tide of the ocean. If
you want four more years of this then you need to buy yourself a new calculator
with higher digits so you can start calculating the cost of all this to you and
your future descendants. Leave them a diary explaining your logic in supporting
all this so they will know why they are homeless.
Peter, did you address my questioning of Anonymous attacks on Matheson, or CJs
claim of Democrats running this country for the last four years? No, of course
not.You did, though, attempt to give a history lesson.The 110th Congress (seated Jan 3, 2007) was the first time Democrats had
controlled a majority in both chambers since 1995 (they held 49 seats in the
Senate, but the two independent Senators caucused with them, an operational
majority). The president was, of course, a Republican.The recession
began in December 2007; eleven months later, not fifteen. The
complex factors leading to the financial crisis hardly was created in eleven
months. For example, one of the main causes of the recession, the
collapse of the housing bubble in 2006 and the creation of the subprime mortgage
crisis, had occurred by the time the 110th Congress was seated. The economic
meltdown was already underway by the time Frank and Dodd took over the
committees you mention. The junior Senator from Illinois, Barack Obama, would
not become president for another two years. Trying to teach history
using a highly selective memory and partisan talking points is an exercise in
As voter voting absentee for 1/3 of my life while in the military, I am grateful
for the political system that provides diversity for voters. After living in
countries that have dictators, presidents that are like dictators, and others
that act like kings, we are blessed to have a system that is pretty solid. Utah
Republicans have the market on so many of the districts and counties that it can
almost be as if the people in office are similar to the countries discussed
above. They wrangle the districts to keep even one of the best Democrats on the
move as he serves the people of the state. He is a very good person and they
can't keep a good person down. It is sort of sad to see but that is
the benefit of an open society where good wins out even though political leaders
of one party try to suppress the opponent's efforts.Keep up the work
Congressman Matheson to provide for a more balanced Utah.
This is bogus hyperbole and almost an endorsement of Jim Matheson. I am new so
my thoughts may be off but I think the absolute failure of Barack Obama will
have such a motivated electorate that Jim Matheson will be voted out of office
on the coattails of Barack Obama. Whoever the Republican candiate is will win
decisively. It is dumb to have polls where only one side has a candidate.
Too bad a vote for Matheson is a vote for Pelosi, Reid and Obama.....I'll vote for anyone but Matheson.......
Anonymous Infinity If you read my post properly, you would see that I would cast
my vote for Matheson as a protest vote, not because I support him. The
Republicans have to do a better job of recruiting candidates, not two peas in a
pod like Wimmer and Sandstrom. I can live with a good conservative, not two
people who's egos are so far out of control and think that they are better than
everyone else and that we should listen to them because they are smarter than
Mark, get over the trivial spelling lessons, and start learning your history
lessons. The democrats took over and controlled a majority in both chambers
starting Jan. 03, 2007. At that time, the DOW was at 12,621.77. The GDP the
previous quarter was 3.5%. The unemployment rate was 4.6%. There were 52
previous straight months of jobs creation. It was also the day Barney Frank
took over the House Financial Services Committee and Chris Dodd took over the
Senate Banking Committee. The economic meltdown that took place 15 months later
was in what part of the economy? BANKING AND FINANCIAL SERVICES! Also, who
took the third highest payoff from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac? OBAMA!Voting for the same people will only bring the same results!
@ CJ: I suppose you think that Hatch, and "good Ol' G.W." have NOTHING
to do with the current situation we are in? NEWSFLASH: We didn't get into the
mess we are in during JUST Obama's administration! G.W. a REPUBLICAN and the
REPUBLICAN party are just as much to blame. The GOP is simply voting against
anything the Democrats want, even when it's something the GOP has wanted in the
past. We need to get rid of ALL the incumbents we currently have in Washington
and start again. Vote for those who will work for the PEOPLE and NOT their
Anonymous infinity, you believe people should not be allowed to be
"envolved" (or involved, as some of us spell it) in America's
political system if they have lost an election. Interesting. So, can you tell us what makes Matheson part of the problem? What makes him a
(gasp!) liberal? Just off the top of your head, what votes has
he taken that makes you believe he is a liberal (shudder) and also part of the
problem? Again, off the top of your head, no fair looking it
up. "Take a long hard look at the last three years and ask
yourself if we can take another four years of Democrats running this
country."CJ, you do realize that the Democrats have not held a
majority in the House since 2010, right? They have only had a majority in half
of Congress, the Republicans have controlled the other half. And of the half the Democrats do control the Republicans have forced a super
majority to move any legislation they don't agree with. The Democrats do not
have a super majority in the Senate. The Democrats have hardly
been "running" this country.
@ Utah Bill - Matheson should be held accountable for his support of the Obama
administration which is destroying our economy. Gerrymandering is used by the
party in power - especially the Democrats. If they were in power they would use
that position in their favor, and do all across this country. He should be voted
out on the merits, his support of Obama does not show that he votes in the best
interests of Utah or the American people.
At this point in the 2010 campaign, Matheson was polling at arround 60%. This
Poll is meaningless.
This [oll is meaningless at this point, the first polls for the 2010 shows
Matheson Easily being reelected, I won with only 50% of the vote. By the time
the NRCC gets mathesons voting record out there, Matheson will sink.
Jim Matheson is not in my district. The redistricting changed all that. But if
he were, I would vote for him. While I can't vote for him, I can sure encourage
him and I intend to do that.
Too bad he can't be a real Democrat. Too bad for him, too bad for Utah.
Voters are leaving both political parties in large numbers. People are fed up
with extreme partisanship and gridlock in congress. Both Wimmer and Sandstrom
are single issue candidate. Neither will rest until they force their right wing
extremism on the all the voters. I would vote for Matheson if I lived in his
district. Lets end this gridlock and extremism now. Utah needs leadership not
ideology driven politicians with their personal vendetta's against those who
dare disagree with them.
@FlashbackWith all due respect, you are one of the prime reasons we have
Matheson when he received moderate (also liberals) votes in his current district
to keep sending him back to Washington, D.C. We need to keep turning over these
politicians. They are not on a political "career" path. Being in
political office is not a career. Please....you good folks in the Salt Lake
Valley can't possibly think a Matheson is a better choice than the alternative.
Please study the issues and learn how Matheson is part of the problem, and
doesn't represent Utahns in anyway, shape, manner, or form. Matheson is part of
the problem, not a solution.
Matheson represents the average Utahn better than any other member of congress,
and voters recognize that.
Take a long hard look at the last three years and ask yourself if we can take
another four years of Democrats running this country. Let that be your guide as
to whom you will vote for. Matheson is very much a part of this administration
and is in bed with Reid, Pelosi, and Obama, the most dangerous group of people
to ever gain political power in the nations history. Anyone but Obama, anyone
"and all of Juab and Sanpete counties"Take a look at the
map again. It has the population areas of Juab, but not the land areas and 40%
of Sanpete's population. The good news is that over 1/3 won't vote
for Rep. Matheson even if they had to pick someone they didn't know anything
I'm a very conservative Republican, and I don't like either Wimmer or Sandstrom.
Don't know anything about the Lady (I hope to learn about her). If Wimmer or
Sandstrom win the Republican nod I'll cast a protest vote for Matheson. The
Republicans could do a lot better than either of these guys. Wimmer is nothing
but a political climber, and Sandstrom is too shoot from the hip.
The new 4th district needs to defeat Jim Matheson. He is a cloak and dagger,
below the radar consumate democrat. I don't care what the pollsters say, get
him out of the House of Representatives. He is first and last a democrat and
cares little if at all about conservative issues. If he voted for Obama that's
all we need to know. Even if and when Matheson is defeated, he will still be
part of the Washington, D.C. environment. How do we get these people out of our
lives? We still have Bennett hanging around politics, lobbying and the whole
thing. This is what is wrong about people when they are voted out of office.
They still are envolved. Show some character and do something else or retire.
Give it up and move on. Seriously, let's get Matheson out of office people. We
need fewer liberals in Washington, D.C.
Voting out of pity for an individual is one of several poor reasons to support
someone for office. Term limits, even for the few honest politicians, would
help end much of the corruption in Washington. Career politicians are like wet
socks, they need to be replaced.
Matheson clearly votes based on having to get re-elected in a Republican state.
He is a man with two masters since he has to gain favor from his Democrat
leadership and we all know that no man can serve two masters. It's time to get
someone who doesn't have a conflict of interest between his constituents and his
leadership.I'd love to see Mia Love get it.
Matheson is not in my political party but has earned my respect. He hangs in
there regardless of the roadblocks put in his way. I frankly don't like the way
attempts have been made to gerrymander him out of office. That just ticks me
off and makes me want to vote for him out of a sense of fairness. And, that's
exactly what I intend to do.
Joe the plumber still gets my vote. Who cares about polls other than candidates?
We the people are too smart to believe polls so they better worry about their
baggage than their phony promises. With all the candidates, their baggage would
fill the dumpsters of ocean barge and that's where they all belong.