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Published: Friday, Dec. 9 2011 5:00 a.m. MST

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Y Ask Y
Provo, UT

Could any article exceed the magnitude of cliche that this article constitutes?

I don't think so.

RanchHand
Huntsville, UT

The axial tilt of the Earth is the reason for the season.

Yule, The Solstice, was around looooonnnnnnngggggg before Jesus was even a twinkle in his mother's eye.

Christmas is a Pagan holiday that Christians conscripted in order to convert the Pagans to Christian worship.

Honestly though, one myth is as good as another I guess.

Unwell
Canton, MA

Yeah...I love Christmas and all but it's just what it was turned into. This was a Pagan holiday and the date of Dec 25th doesn't have ANYTHING to do with Christ!

That being said, I hate that you can't say Christmas without offending people now somehow. And I'm not even religious.

bikeboy
Boise, ID

I appreciate the sentiments, and I try to do everything possible (although it's difficult with the onslaught of commercialism) to maintain thoughts of my Savior in my mind, and reminders of our Savior in our home, during Christmas season.

Yeah, I know ... Christmas was an early-Christian derivative of pagan solstice recognition, Jesus wasn't born on December 25th, blah-blah-blah, but for my entire life it's been a battle between Jesus and Santa/buying/decorations.

Practicing Christians make Jesus part of their lives 365 days a year. But the special sentiments about the baby, mother Mary, the manger, the shepherds and angels, make Christmas time extra special! (Or you can elect to exclude all of that from your thoughts... your choice.)

Merry Christmas everybody!

patriot
Cedar Hills, UT

Jesus Christ is the reason for the season - true. However Christmas is anything BUT a celebration of Christ's birth these days. Heck, many cities can't even have nativity scenes on display - just atheist displays. Money money money and more money is all most people think about during Christmas. Actually - it's where is the money going to come from this year to buy all the stuff for the kids. Pretty sad society.

dlw7
LOGAN, UT

True, celebration on Dec. 25 began as a pagan/winter solstice thing and evolved into celebrating Christ birth, Father Christmas, Santa Claus, and spending indecent sums of money on people that you like, don't like or love. SO WHAT! The thought is that once a year people --at least some of us--begin to think about "Peace on earth, goodwill toward men" and try to be a little gentler, kinder and think of others more. To be sure, it would be wonderful if this continued all year, but even for a few weeks it makes a refreshing difference. This is the time the Christian world celebrates the Savior's birth, so join in, smile at everyone and say "Merry Christmas".

Pagan
Salt Lake City, UT

If Jesus is the reason for the season:

Don't Buy Pine trees to put into your house.
Tinsel
Plastic Reindeer
Eggnog
Or write cards to Santa.

The Atheist
Provo, UT

Jesus is not the reason for the season in my house.

kishkumen
American Fork, UT

Actually, the original reason for the season was to celebrate the winter solstice. The traditions of bringing light and family festivities to the shortest day of the year predate Christianity. Most Christians don't want Atheists, Jews, and Muslims to force their traditions on them so it is a good idea for Christians to not do it to others at this time of year. It is a perfect time to follow the golden rule.

JoeBlow
Miami Area, Fl

"Schools celebrate "Winter Break" but are prohibited from mentioning the creator of winter and all seasons. "

yes William, you can find schools that celebrate Winter break. My sons school celebrates Christmas Break.

It's out there. Again, someone looking for a reason to be outraged.

There are many who would rather be OFFENDED by a made up issue, than satisfied with reality.

DANG People. Get over it.

spring street
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

The world is a diverse place, with many different traditions this time of year. Recognizing that all traditions have equal value, I send the following greetings to my friends. Happy Hanukkah, Joyous Kwanzaa, Blessed and Merry Yule, Solstice Blessings, Salamun 'Alaikum, Merry Christmas, God Jul, Happy Boxing Day, Las Posadas greetings, St. Nicholas Warm Wishes, Peace and Joy on Bodhi Day, Protections of the Virgin, and Happy New Year!

Serenity
Manti, UT

I love Christmas. There have been studies that show the Roman census around the time of Christ was more likely to be around this time of the year. The LDS Church was asked about their consensus about the Savior's birth being in April rather than the winter solstice. The answer was that this was never LDS Dogma and the time of the Savior's birth is irrelevant. What matters is that He was born, not when He was born.

The Lord loves it when people celebrate and are happy. He loves it when children, with starry eyes and joyful faces rejoice in this season. He loves the sacrifices that people often make to give their families happiness. He loves it when families come together and appreciate and love each other, perhaps just a bit more than when caught up in the hum-drum of everyday living. He loves the way people help each other with kindness and love.

No matter what our beliefs, does it ever hurt to be kinder to one another; to smile more at strangers, to be happy for the sake of being happy?
Merry Christmas

Joshka
St.George, UT

People who say things like "Jesus is the reason for the season" need to put up or shut up.
So, Here is my challenge to you William Monahan:
Take down your pagan Christmas tree. I know you have one, don't lie about it.
Next, admit that you have participated in propagating the myth of Santa Clause.
Did you go shopping on black Friday? Hypocrite!
Here is the hard truth. You are responsible for what Christmas has become.
"The war on Christmas" has become a talking point among traditionalists, as if their version of Christmas is somehow traditional. The first step fundies need to take to correct this "Problem" is to admit that they are part of the problem. They have declared war upon their own traditions and point fingers at others because they are too ignorant to see the damage they are doing.
But no one is willing to stop this madness called "Christmas" because once you take everything not related to Jesus out of the holiday it just becomes another boring religious holiday, like Passover.
When was the last time you got excited for Passover?
Think really hard about it.

The Dixie Kid
Saint George, UT

I think that people of the Christian faith should just create another day to celebrate Christ's birth, and not have all the presents, Santa, Christmas trees, etc. That way we could just have a Dec. 25th holiday for everyone, and wouldn't have to worry about leaving Christ out of Christmas. And the new holiday would be much more religious or spiritual in nature.

A voice of Reason
Salt Lake City, UT

The Atheist,

If you do any sort of celebration on the 25th, then I'm afraid that Jesus Christ IS indeed the reason. Maybe you didn't notice the CHRIST in Christ-mas.

LetsDebate
PLEASANT GROVE, UT

Those who call others hypocrites for simultaneously proclaiming Jesus as the reason for the season, and participating in the numerous add-on traditions are severely ignorant.

Hey Joshka - Christmas trees are a symbol of everlasting life. This is a symbol of Jesus, and doesn't make me a hypocrite for having one.
Did you know Saint Nicholas was a real person with a reputation for secret gift giving? Also, the wise men brought gifts. Santa and gift-giving are symbolic of love, compassion, and honor. To Christians, this is also fittingly symbolic of Jesus.
Black Friday is a good time for frugal people to get something symbolizing love for someone special.

I think the cynicism spewed by people like Joshka, Pagan, RanchHand, and The Atheist demonstrates an ugly elitism that's highly unwelcome to believers during this time of year.

On the other hand, the effort to see an offensive attack on Jesus every time someone says "Happy Holidays" instead of "Merry Christmas" reflects an unattractive crabbiness that also subverts the "reason for the season."

Peace on Earth, Goodwill Toward Men. Let's take a chill pill, and each worry about his own motives and sincerity of Christmas activities.

Kalindra
Salt Lake City, Utah

"Since the invention of language, poets have attempted to describe the love we feel during the Christmas season."

Language predates the birth of Christ by well over 5000 years.

Such hyperbole is a fantastic way to illustrate why so many people find the arrogance of the Christmas celebration to be offensive.

It also makes it really hard to believe anything else the author may have to say.

If you are Christian and celebrate Christmas, then yes - Christ is the reason for the season. If you belong to an different faith, or no faith at all, then there are other reasons for the season. You would think someone with an education from a highly credited school such as BYU would know that.

Jiggle
Clearfield, UT

If Christ is the primary reason to celebrate Christmas then that is why I no longer choose to celebrate it. I would feel like a hypocrite if I did! I hate winter so I can't find any reason to celebrate that either! Yes, Christmas is offensive! All the falseness of a worn out occasion comes into full bloom. However, if it trips your trigger....go for it! If some of your friends and family member aren't so enthused....think about why!

als Atheist
Provo, UT

A voice of Reason | 10:56 a.m. Dec. 11, 2011
Salt Lake City, UT
The Atheist,

If you do any sort of celebration on the 25th, then I'm afraid that Jesus Christ IS indeed the reason. Maybe you didn't notice the CHRIST in Christ-mas."

Yeah, sure, because we are ALL really Christians in this country, whether we want to be or not, right?

Bill in Nebraska
Maryville, MO

Here's something that some of you fail to understand where we got the Christmas tree from. The story goes that Martin Luther who was a reformist of the Catholic Church was on his way home one day and silently prayed to know if he was doing the right thing. What happened is as he walked he came across a evergreen tree that had snow covering its limbs when a ray of light hit as if Christ himself was pointing out the tree as it glistened in the day light. He cut the tree down took it home and put candles on it. We now have the tree and the lights which all represent the LIGHT OF CHRIST. So yes, it is proper to have a Christmas Tree.

Also, the story goes in Germany that a very religious man would tour the country. As he toured he would look for orphaned children. In turn he would make toys or gifts for each of these children and deliver the gifts to them. He felt that no child should be without a gift at Christmas time. This is where we really get the story of Santa Claus.

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