write it down. Utah will be in the Sun Bowl. No way they get passed over for
Arizona State, who will come into the game without a head coach and riding a
monumental collapse. There is absolutely NO fan interest right now and while
not as viable as before Friday, Utah has much more fan interest right now and
will travel much better.
I've been to El Paso. It is not any sort of a place anyone would ever want to
go. Frankly it is a horrible place. It sounds like some are trying to say the
Sun Bowl is somehow more desirable than the Vegas Bowl but other than having a
little bit bigger payout nothing about it is better than Vegas. If I was a utah
"fan", which I'm obviously not, I would be hoping for one of the San
Diego Bowls or else the Vegas Bowl over the Sun Bowl.
The Sun Bowl would be a good destination for Utah. The most prestigious non-BCS
bowl we've been to, with a long history.Utah vs ACC #4 (Presumably
Virgina) would be a good matchup.Utah had a solid but not completely
satisfying first year in the PAC. We're still climbing, and winning the Sun
Bowl would be a great place to start.Oregon - Rose BowlStanford - Fiesta BowlWashington/Cal - Holiday BowlWashington/Cal
- Alamo BowlUtah - Sun BowlASU - Vegas BowlUCLA - Kraft Fight
Hunger Bowl(Speaking of the last bowl I mentioned, does anyone else
think it's not such a great idea to fight hunger with macaroni and cheese?)
Ducky is right, El Paso as a place is way out there but the campus and stadium
are nice.Better stick with Beat Down in Vegas II.
Utah Ute obsessed cougs sammy and duhkhunter are right, El Paso is in the middle
of nowhere but Ft. Worth and Boise in the winter aren't worth bragging about
either.Bottomline is all three teams are going bowling!FYI, here are the payouts for the bowl games:Armed Forces Bowl:
$600,000 per teamPotato Idaho Potato Bowl: $750,000 per teamSun
Bowl: $2,000,000 per teamObviously USU and Utah will share part of
the revenue with their conferences.Utah hasn't been officially
invited to the Sun Bowl but it is the likely destination.Good luck
to all three teams!
El Paso is not THAT bad. And besides, you go to watch the football game. Sight
seeing is a plus, but not the reason you go. If you really wanted to do sight
seeing in Texas, hop on a flight after the game and take a trip to Austin,
Dallas, or San Antonio. I'm hoping for Holiday or Alamo... but I'm
content with the Sun Bowl. Its better than Vegas, and I'd much rather play an
ACC opponent with better payout than be back in the MWC, no matter what the
scenery looks like. Groan.
Duckhunter:"If I was a utah 'fan', which I'm obviously not, I
would be hoping for one of the San Diego Bowls or else the Vegas Bowl over the
Sun Bowl."If I were a mid-majorey Utah-hater like Duckhunter or
sammyg, which I'm obviously not, I would be hoping the Utes got the worst bowl
available...like the Las Vegas Bowl, or the Kraft Fight Hunger should UCLA win
their petition for a postseason game despite a 6-7 record. And that would be
DESPITE either of those two bowl games being a higher rated bowl game than that
$600K nobody cares bowl in Ft. Worth vs...uh...hmm...well, nobody cares there
either. If I were a Pac-12 AQ Utah-hater, I'd be a sad, sad, irrelevant,
@texasgirlauteYes El Paso is that bad but as long as all you're
doing is attending the game it is tolerable I suppose. San Diego would
definately be better as would San Antonio or Vegas. Frankly of all the bowl
destinations in the country El Paso is at the bottom of the barrel, about on par
with Boise. Even Albuquerque is better than El Paso.I relaize the
utah "fan" spin on this is how great it is, how prestigious a game it
is, blah, blah, blah, but in truth it is a mid tier bowl in a low tier
destination and that is why it is reserved for a mid tier team.
duckhunter,what is better? a "mid-tier" bowl or a
@DuckhunterAfter seeing your posts frequently throughout these
sports pages, I am only more convinced that you are not really a BYU fan, just a
Utah hater. Are you so bored and is your life so empty that you must fill the
hours with endless, driveling Utah vitriol? If you are truly a BYU fan, as I
am, why not spend your time posting positive messages on the BYU pages.I am a die-hard BYU fan, but I follow Utah football because I like it. I will
always enthusiastically root for BYU, especially against Utah, but for the rest
of the season, I prefer to see Utah succeed. After all, if BYU beats them and
both teams go on to greater success, doesn't it follow that BYU is a good
team?As for your arguments regarding the quality of Utah's team in
comparison to BYU, you only make yourself look foolish. Isn't 54-10 convincing
enough for you?! I wish the outcome had been reversed, but my team didn't
deserve to win!
Duckhunter:"Frankly of all the bowl destinations in the country
El Paso is at the bottom of the barrel, about on par with Boise. Even
Albuquerque is better than El Paso."Albuquerque? Hey...wasn't
that your postseason destination LAST year? How exciting for you. I'm sure you
were among those dozens of cougar fans who showed up to that game last
December.Typical homer coug. You're a shining example of the
Dunning-Kruger effect. No matter WHAT bowl game you wind up in, or who gives
the Y a verbal commit, or which mid-majored opponent you added to your future
WAC-lite schedule, or how many AQ conferences reject you, you'll ALWAYS behave
as though THAT was the most desired outcome.New Mexico or Armed
Forces over the Sun? Haha! Only in the bubble. "LOL"
Re: Naval VetWhat? Not sure I understand your point other than your
upset with duckhunter. Dude, are you sure you were in the Navy? If so, act
like it...of course I am assuming you were a Naval Officer. If you were a swab,
please disregard my comment as your actions and postings are in line with your
@Gazpacho,Duckhunter is going to accuse you of being me with another
screen name.....wait for it........
@ Gazpacho | 11:49 a.m. Nov. 29, 2011 Logan, UT Thank you.
However, the Duck will now try to call you a Utah troll. Not agreeing with
him/her is lethal in his/her eyes.
Cali Coug:If you had ever served a day in the Armed Forces, you'd
have known there is no standard that requires servicemembers [Officer OR
Enlisted] to be fans of the team down south. Active Duty is more about
defending our nation and our freedoms....such as the freedom of speech for
example, even to the extend of ripping on Duckhunter, Y fans, and the Y in
general. Nobody had ever been subjected to an Article 15 Captain's Mast for not
gushing over those irrelevant, mid-majorey cougs.If you had NOT ever
served a day in the Armed Forces, then don't presume that you're an authority as
to how we should behave. It come off as very hypocritical. How very
"coug-ish" of you.
@ Naval Vet | 2:30 p.m. Nov. 29, 2011 Philadelphia, PA Let it
go with Cali Coug. He/she was the class act posting smack on a Utah article
about injured players.
@GazpachoYou know it doesn't matter how many screen names you use I
always know who you are. Every post you've made under this latest screen name
has simply been about me. When a new screen name appears and the posts it makes
are pointed at one aprticular individual it is quite obvious what the purpose of
that new screen name really is. You do this because you think that by pretending
to be a BYU fan and calling me out it somehow will either make me quit making
you, and the other utah "fans" look like fools all of the time or else
you will somehow convince some real BYU fans to actually side with you. If you were truly a BYU fan that didn't like to read what I post you
simply wouldn't say anything about it. You failed with the "officer
coolguy" screen name and you are now failing with this "gazpacho"
screen name. Give it up. I will never fall for it and no one else that is an
actual BYU fan will ever fall for it either.
Oh and gazpacho just because you posted under 4 of your screen names here with
each post trying to lend credibility to the others don't for one second think
anyone beleives it. Even naval lint, who has proven herself to be on the very
brink of a breakdown today, knows you are all one poster using multiple names.
It is very satisfying to me to know that I am so effective, so
completely irritating to you, that you create multiple screen names and
personalities for the only purpose of trying, and failing, to thwart me. I love
it. Witnessing your pathetic effrots and naval lints complete meltdown today has
to be the most satisfying thing I have ever accomplished on these boards. LOL!
Gazpacho,Two posts in a row of passive-aggressive snottiness,you must have
really got under the Elmer Fudd's skin.No matter the color of your jersey
nothing is more fun than watching a pompous, "I know PERSONALLY blah,
blah, blah," kind of guy get his feathers ruffled. I love
this example, "If you were truly a BYU fan that didn't like to read
what I post you simply wouldn't say anything about it", as if he's the
final word on everything BYU, what an ego. Get over yourself Chris B ehh.... I
mean Duckhunter, you're just another hater.
@duddman54Like I said it is very gratifying to know how effective I
Slipped to sixth, about what we thought they would do. Good thing the
conference is down this year.
duckhunter's desperation makes me laugh.
Duckhunter:"Even naval lint, who has proven herself to be on
the very brink of a breakdown today, knows you are all one poster using multiple
names."So now you presume to speak for me? Typical coug. And
I don't know anything about being on the "brink of a breakdown".
Afterall, I'm not the one who'd been babbling on ad nauseum over the past year
about our "national cachet" then wind up finding my team going to play
in some ho-hum, also-ran, mid-majorey bowl ranked 32nd out of 35, and then
subsequently have to deploy a full arsenal of rambling and flimsy spin to
promote THAT bowl game as a better postseason destination than anything the Utes
would land in.You season was over by the 2nd week of September.
Your breakdown went passed the brink, and fell all the way down the rabbit hole.
Now you're busy sipping blue tea with the Mad Hatter and the March Hare and
celebrating your "un-BCS day". How marvelous.
@naval lintIt is obvious you are beside yourself with angst. I
understand because that loss to colorado, perhaps the worst team in d1 football,
was truly abysmal. You had to avoid any articles about it for a few days because
you couldn't take the moaking you knew was coming your way, and when you did
return you were completely unhinged, really you appeared to be in need of being
committed.You still seem to be a bit on edge but perhaps slightly
more in control today. I'm sure by weeks end you'll be back to your normal,
although that is a relative term, self. At least as long as you avoid utah
basketball threads. I really have to warn you to avoid those. But then I'm sure
you're avoidng them anyway as there is absolutely no way you want to take on
that subject with basicly no ammunition. At least on football boards you can
post 54-10 endlessly and feel lke you actually made a real point.
Duckhunter:"I understand because that loss to colorado, perhaps
the worst team in d1 football, was truly abysmal. You had to avoid any articles
about it for a few days because you couldn't take the moaking [sic] you knew was
coming your way..."Or because I was traveling over that
"Thanksgiving" weekend. Poor desperate, mid-majored coug. The $600K
Armed Forces Bowl is the 32nd-ranked postseason game - out of 35 - and that's
the BEST you could have done for 2011. Conversely, the WORST Utah can do is
fall down to the $1.1M Las Vegas Bowl. For the illogical and mathematically
disinclined, that's nearly TWICE the value of your sad, bottom-tiered,
mid-majorey bowl. And while the LV is the WORST we can do, most experts have
been projecting us to wind up in the $2M Sun. And that would be over THREE
times the value of your sad, bottom-tiered mid-majorey bowl. And YOU'RE
suggesting that I'M the one who's losing it? Typical hypocritical coug.54-10, and your team quit. "LOL"!
Naval - let it go! He/she isn't worth the time of any Ute. Just a typical
little brother/sister trying to get under the skin of their bigger brother with
nothing to prove other than to annoy.Go Utes!! Onward and Upward!!