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Published: Wednesday, Nov. 23 2011 10:03 a.m. MST

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USAlover
Salt Lake City, UT

The best thing for business is a paucity of Liberals. Duh...

lket
Bluffdale, UT

well known peopele here work for less and companies pay less utah tax % than many working class.

donburi
Oceanside, CA

How can Utah "soar to the top" when they were already on top last year? Maybe "keeps the top spot for the second year in a row" is more appropriate.

The Utah unemployment rate was 7% in October, not 7.4%, which was earlier.

Anyway, congrats Utah.

Fred44
Salt Lake City, Utah

This won't really help because right now we are not competing with other states, we are competing with other countries. Until we get rid of minimum wage and end child labor laws we will not be able to compete with third world countries. Business will go were they can get the cheapest labor and no regulations, and that is third world countries.

My Humble Opinion
Sandy, UT

Fred44: Is this supposed to be a government of the people, by the people, and for the people, or a government of the corporations, by the corporations, and for the corporations. Getting rid of minumum wage may help corporations, but won't help the people much.

atl134
Salt Lake City, UT

@Fred44
"Until we get rid of minimum wage and end child labor laws we will not be able to compete with third world countries"

I don't think either of those help the jobs situation.

1. Get rid of minimum wage.
Problem: If some jobs are going to pay out less than they used to, this could lead to maybe a few additional hirings... but it would also lead to more people needing to have second jobs.
2. End child labor laws.
Problem: You're now expanding the market in a demographic of people, if more under-18s get jobs or have more hours working than that means fewer jobs are going to those over-18.

Pagan
Salt Lake City, UT

'Until we get rid of minimum wage and end child labor laws we will not be able to compete with third world countries.' - Fred44 | 12:07 p.m. Nov. 23, 2011

So we can work for 0.8 cents per hour with a 16 hour work day?

This America's response:

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No.

No thank you.

I would pick the well being of the American people, OVER corporate profit, any day.

cjb
Bountiful, UT

People are fond of saying that government doesn't know best. But in Utah, our people has about the highest rate of bankruptcy, and about the highest rate of being taken in a scam in the entire nation.

Conversely, our state government is about the beat run in the nation, helping to make our business climate among the best in the nation.

FDRfan
safety dictates, ID

Wow! Forbes has ranked Utah #1. I'm sure that Rupert Murdoch and the Koch Brothers concur. Utah is the reddest of the red states, the brightest of the bright and the elitist of the elite. All is well in Zion - well, after deporting a few thousand more of the undesirables.

John C. C.
Payson, UT

David Bradford said, "We have a very high-educated populace.

If that's true, thank Utah parents and their local public schools for performing miracles with the lowest per student funding in the nation. Then tell your state legislators to back off with their constant attacks on public educators.

stevo123
slc, ut

This past week behind closed doors (of course!!) The republicans have set up a bill written by large company lawyers to cut back on any government attempt to regulate air, water, radiation et. al. ( Thanks Senator Margaret Dayton). Utah will be the best place to run a dirty industry....watch your breathing from Dec.-March.

DSB
Cedar Hills, UT

@FDRfan - yes, we would all be so better off if we were more like, say Michigan and California, for example. Bluest of blue states and clearly more enlightened about the plan to enhance humanity by going bankrupt. I'm sure George Soros would concur. All would be so much better in Zion if only we could attract more undesirables, had higher unemployment, soaring debt, and bankrupting pensions and entitlements.

You're really denigrating our state for being top on this list? I guess when conservatives hyperbolize that liberals want to destroy our country, they're specifically talking about people like you who find the negative in every success, at least if it comes in the "reddest of the red states." I'm guessing you probably find nothing wrong with the top-10 rankings of Washington and Oregon.

VAggie
Bristow, United States

@ Humble opinion, minimum wage only helps a small amount of people, and it hurts a larger amount. Continuing to raise a price floor is not good economics, and causes for a huge dead weight loss.

FDRfan
safety dictates, ID

USAlover | 11:44 a.m. Nov. 23, 2011
Salt Lake City, UT
The best thing for business is a paucity of Liberals. Duh...

I admit that I do not know the answers to the following 2 questions:
1) Has there ever been a Utah whistle blower against a business?
2) Has a BYU business school professor ever published a paper criticizing s business?
If I read the FreedomWorks criticism correctly, they would have ranked Utah higher if they loosened their alcohol use laws and imported some Nevada brothels.

CHS 85
Sandy, UT

@DSB

Funny your blue state list didn't include Minnesota, Vermont, Hawaii, and New Mexico - all with lower unemployment rates than Utah.

You conveniently forgot also that there are plenty of red states at the bottom of the list - Nevada, Mississippi, South Carolina, Florida, and Georgia.

Nice cherry-picking of facts, though. At least it's entertaining.

byronbca
Salt Lake City, UT

I've lived in a lot of other states and one very important thing that Forbes left out is that Utahns really value hard work. You can talk politics all you want but as a recruiter working at a national recruiting firm, the thing that I've found that sets Utah apart are the hard working Utahns.

Many other places (like Wall Street) the people are looking for easy money manipulating non tangible ideas and loop holes, but non tangibles don't create jobs, hard working people and people with tangible ideas create jobs.

I've heard that banks create jobs or that republican plans create jobs or that democratic plans create jobs, but it's been my experience that good people and tangible ideas create jobs.

A1994
Centerville, UT

Congrats to the Union Lefties for finding the dark cloud in the silver lining. Is there anything bad about the fact that Forbes ranks Utah #1 for business? Does that not have the potential to create even more jobs here in the future? Or do those jobs not count because they are not Union jobs?

Blue Bolshevik
Salt Lake City, UT

Corporate welfare pays off big for Utah legislators.

The Real Maverick
Orem, UT

"This won't really help because right now we are not competing with other states, we are competing with other countries. Until we get rid of minimum wage and end child labor laws we will not be able to compete with third world countries. Business will go were they can get the cheapest labor and no regulations, and that is third world countries."

Here's a better idea.... One that actually solves problems AND raises the quality of life of 3rd world countries.

Have all 3rd world countries create a minimum wage and actually enforce it.
Have all 3rd world countries create and enforce child labor laws.

Hows that repubs? The CEO might need to earn a few less billion, but at least kids won't have to work 16 hour days for pennies.

As far as Utah being a great state for business? Of course it is! Hardly any regulations, all laws are slanted for business owners (they can fire you at any moment for any reason), and a ton of desperate college kids needing something... Anything!!! To help pay for school.

NeilT
Clearfield, UT

Get rid of child labor laws. Great idea. Instead of overburdening our underfunded schools with more students they could go to work in the factories and farms. No more need for immigrant labor, our children could fill those service sectors jobs. Of course with our children working all day they would be to busy and tired for juvenile mischief, drugs, alcohol,etc. And all that extra income could really help struggling families keep their homes and raise their standard of living. Pure genius. I wish I would have thought of that. Would they get released time to attend seminary classes? Just wondering.

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