Comments about ‘Utah Compact helped turn anti-immigration tide in Arizona’

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Published: Thursday, Nov. 10 2011 11:56 a.m. MST

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Watch Dog
Provo, UT

The right thing to do? The right thing to do is -- follow the law! It is pretty simple, especially in this case.

Chris B
Salt Lake City, UT

Illegal: bad
Legal: good

CJ
Murray, UT

Bunch of baloney as usual,amnesty isn't going to fly this year, next year,or any other time.

tom_e
Kaysville, UT

Shurtleff is now looking for a job. I cannot think of any job that he is qualified for. Perhaps he can get more training at Salt Lake Community College.

The Rock
Federal Way, WA

Here is the truth on the matter:

Liberal Democrat politicians need illegal immigration. The birth rate in the crowd attracted by Michael Moore is half the birth rate of conservative crowds.
Motor Voter prohibits even asking if a person is here legally. If Liberals thought for one minute that illegal immigration was hurting them at the ballot box, it would end today.

Big Business (usually lumped in with Republicans) want illegal immigrations. They want the cheep labor.

Rank and file union members and conservatives want it to end. Union leadership and Liberal Democrats are one and the same (see lib. Politicians above).

Religious leaders know many illegal aliens. The illegals that religious leaders know are good and decent people (they know them from church for crying out loud). They don't see the darker side of illegal immigration. Hence, religious leaders focus on the impact enforcement would have on those that they know.

The average American wants this problem to end. It will only end when we stand up and vote the present crop elected officials out of office.

Pawps
Sandy, Utah

Chris B. for President!

The Rock
Federal Way, WA

Here is the solution:

1. We need a guest worker program where we allow a limited number of guest workers in for a limited time (say 3 to 5 years). They work with the understanding that any children born here are not citizens.
2. There is a symbiotic relationship between illegal aliens and their employers. It is in the best interest of both to keep their mouths shut. We must create a hostile relationship between illegal aliens and their employers. We do this by offering a $10,000 reward to the first person (illegal or not) to turn in employers who employ illegal aliens without doing due diligence to screen them our. If the employer was negligent he gets hit with a $15,000 fine. $10,000 goes to the reward and the balance goes to finance the program. No employer would risk it.
3. Make it illegal to rent housing to illegals. The penalty? The landlord has to refund all the rent. Nobody would risk it.

Phase this in over a 12 month period so people can prepare.

This program is compassionate (guest worker program), fair and self enforcing. All illegals would be forced to go home.

Igualmente
Mesa, AZ

Russell Pearce was targeted as a symbolic repudiation of SB1070 by the left. It was an open election with overwhelming democrats and latinos voting to show their disdain for border control and restrictions to the free movement of latinos seeking a better life and income in Amexica.

RinAZ
Mesa, AZ

I live in the district where Lewis just defeated Pearce. I have read what is in the news and there is a big difference between the two. Lewis believes and has said that illegals and their children should be allowed to pay in-state tuition costs for college. He is not anywhere near as strong against illegal immigration as the papers report. Many that live here do not think he understands what liberty is about as much as did Pearce. Now that he is elected we will watch and slowly see other elections around the country occur because liberals don't like the views of someone who understands liberty. It has nothing to do with civility.

ouisc
Farmington, UT

It's interesting that the Utah Compact is looking for a pat on the back when it has actually had absolutely no effect in finding a solution for our illegal immigration problem. The Utah Compact is one year old, yet Utah and the United States continues to be a free-for-all for those who wish to enter our country illegally.

Fitness Freak
Salt Lake City, UT

ALL civic minded Americans want their laws enforced. Otherwise why have laws at all? Why have borders if they're not enforced?

ALL (or almost) all Americans would like their LEGAL neighbors to be able to get a job without having to compete with workers being pd. one half or less the prevailing wage.

Between 70-80% (depending on who's numbers)of Americans want immigration laws enforced.

Obviously Shurtleff and the rest of the "open borders" crowd think they have a "victory" with the defeat of ONE individual state Senator. States all over the country are STILL trying to do the job the feds WON'T DO.

The "open borders" crowd has a lot of money behind their effort.

But they DON'T have the support of LEGAL, LAW ABIDING citizens so their attempt at amnesty will ultimately fail.

Hellooo
Salt Lake City, UT

The basis of this story and its headline is incorrect. Arizona's latest polls show that the above 60% of respondents still strongly favor or favor support of Arizona's enforement law ushered through the legislature by Mr. Pierce. In fact, Mr. Lewis endorsed support of the law in his campaign and need to do this in order to make the successful challenge. Mr. Pierce's demise had much more to do with in party political unrest with his leadership and representation. And, his efforts to go even further in efforts to monitor and control illegal immigration and its impacts on Arizona. This article is not only inaccurate, but an effort to mislead as to what is going on with regards to illegal immigration in Arizona. The Utah Compact is simply a well worded document that supports the continued exploitation of poor people by politicians, businesses, and religions.

PA Rock Man
Allentown, PA

Those who just say "its just about following the law" are missing the point. If a law isn't working or isn't moral, we can change the law. That is what the discussion should be about, changing immigrations laws to something that actually works.

Woodyff
Mapleton, UT

Conservatives and Republicans need to remember these comments by Shurtleff. He runs as a republican because he knows he wouldn't win in his real party, the Democrats. When he doesn't get the UofU job, will he run for public office again, if so he needs to be defeated.

gramma b
Orem, UT

When the Western culture that created America is swamped with those bringing with them a Third World culture, America as we know it will cease to exist. One thing we can be sure of is that these immigrants will overwhelmingly support any government action which transfers more wealth to them from those who have earned it. That is why the Democrats like them so much.

ouisc
Farmington, UT

Immigrating legally to the U.S. is among the easiest immigration processes in the world.

Fitness Freak
Salt Lake City, UT

@ "PA rock man"

NO LAW works if it doesn't get enforced.

Why pass a "different" law?

IF the law really wasn't moral the American people would have already changed it. Americans, for the most part I think are quite fair. We DO HAVE a system of orderly immigration, but those who use it are made to feel like fools by those who just walk across the border.

THATS not fair!

Informed Voter
South Jordan, UT

Tide turning in favor of illegals? In your dreams....sad spin in this article

Jazz Bass Man
Wellsville, Utah

It's just amazing how the open borders crowd/liberal media all try to spin this like US citizens REALLY DO want out of control illegal immigration. SURE! Why wouldn't we want it? I mean, who wouldn't want out of control lawlessness, gangs, drugs, school and emergency room overcrowding, with millions of third world illegal citizens stealing identities, driving drunk on our roads, and taking every entry level job that our young people might need, Right?

Reality is quite a different story, because the American people are sick and tired of illegal immigration and the problems it causes.

Well at least we have some good news today, which is the fact that Shurtless is retiring from his AG position and from politics in general. He should become the director of LA RAZA, as I'm sure they love him.

eatwater
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

Get a life Shurtleff. Until Shurtleff can accomplish something he has no credibility. It's funny how he always has to voice his political opinions but never has anything to say about the job he is paid to perform. Maybe because he never does anything as attorney general.

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