Re: Veritas AequitasSorry you were around to witness the Utes 2008
season.4 victories over teams in final top 25, 14 point Sugar Bowl
win over Alabama.Grandpa tells us about how good BYU was way back
when. He also tells us how he walked 16 miles to school in the snow, up hill
both ways.BYU barely beat a 6-6 Michigan team in their bowl game.1984 BYU, only team ever to win title without beating a team ranked in final
top 25.Had Montana State not played the Utes this year, they'd be
undefeated. BYU never played a defense as good at Utah's is this year. Who
knows maybe 2011 montana state is better than 1984 BYU.Congrats on
all those conference invites. Pac-12 denied you, Big-12 denied you, now the Big
East is even denying you.Congrats on beating no one in 1984, keep
bragging about even though you probably weren't even born.
@uu32No the Sugar Bowl banner is not a "bad thing". Not by
a long shot. It is definately something that utah should hang with pride. But it
is not "almost" a National Championship. It is simply a good bowl win.
All 2nd place, or 4th for that matter, is is just another something that isn't
the champion. It is nice to get, it is worth acknowledging, but it is still not
the Champion and it is still not anything anyone will ever remember outside of
utah fans and the BYU fans who are constantly reminded of it by utah fans.It is no better than BYU's Cotton Bowl win and no more note worthy. It
is demonstrably less than BYU's Holiday Bowl victory over Michigan because that
win resulted in a unanimous National Championship. Those things are just a
matter of the historical record.
Veritas - and the Sugar Bowl champion banner is a bad thing?
Uteology | 4:32 p.m. Nov. 10, 2011 Fort Worth, Texas "SportsFan
| 3:54 p.m. Nov. 10, 2011You desperately cling to Meyer because he's
the only Utah coach who's even come close to winning a national title.-------------Not true. In 2008, Kyle finished #2 (16 AP votes for
first place)."===And we all remember the many
parades for almost backing into an NC. (I believe it was three parades)...Where do we find the 2nd place trophy?Oh, that's right, is a
"banner of BCS participation" hanging outside RES.
@BleedYou are SO cute! You think when you change screen names from
Red to Crimson and "recommend" your own posts we can't tell?"Would THE Urban Meyer be the successful coach he is today if he was
never hired on at Utah?"Meyer was a successful at coach BEFORE
he came to Utah. Let's get rational: Meyer was successful BEFORE
he came to Utah, Utah not-so-much. That is why Chris Hill hired him. He was
Mid-America Coach of the year at Bowling Green, where he took BG from 2-9 to 8-3
his first year, 9-2 his second, then moved on to Utah, also a two-year stepping
stone. If Utah was already ON the map, he'd have stayed. McBride
laid the foundation, and under McBride the Utes were ranked once for the second
time EVER. Under Meyer the Utes were ranked twice and that put Utah on the
football map. I challenge you to ask 9 Ute fans -- over the age of
30, double your age -- if Meyer put Utah on the Map of if Utah put Meyer on the
UteologyWhittingham was a distant 2nd in the AP poll, but the Utes
never had a chance of actually displacing Urban Meyer and the Florida Gators
from the top perch.In the offical BCS poll (the Coaches poll), the
Utes finished a distant 4th.
"Former" Utah coach.. lol He moved into Utah and left just as
quickly. Nobody remembers him for his time at the U. He is a non-story - he
rode his wave through short-term success and moved out of coaching because he
couldn't keep up with the reputation. He won't accept another
coaching job anywhere.
SportsFan | 3:54 p.m. Nov. 10, 2011You desperately cling to Meyer
because he's the only Utah coach who's even come close to winning a national
title.-------------Not true. In 2008, Kyle finished #2
(16 AP votes for first place).
Magna Ute FanThe Y does have a habit of letting Great Coaching
talent go, and then hiring fireside coordinators to run their program into the
ground.Just think how dangerous the Y could have been if, Norm Chow
was at the helm or even Coach Whit.In regard to the article, there
is a simile; Urban enjoys ESPN announcing as much as the Y like's touting their
Friday night ESPN contract. Urban won't coach football just like the Y won't
hire and keep a decent coaching staff.Y fans; Its like shooting fish
in a barrelHang in there Band of Lil Brothers!
@ Rational"the University of Utah, you know the school that put
Coach Meyer on the map. I did a spit-take at that one. Utah put
MEYER on the map, huh! LOL!"You are irRational! Let me put it
to you this way. Would THE Urban Meyer be the successful coach he is today if he
was never hired on at Utah? Utah had the potential for greatness but didn't have
the coach to get them there. Urban took Utah over the hump and handed off the
program to Kyle Whittingham who continues to develop a great program and lead
them into the Pac-12.I hope your spit-take is all over your
BleedRed-Don't forget how byu fired Norm Chow a few years back as a
scapegoat for a lagging Lavel Edwards team. That was a classic move!
BleedRedYou desperately cling to Meyer because he's the only Utah
coach who's even come close to winning a national title. Unfortunately for U, he
was smart enough to figure out that he'd never be able to win a championship at
Utah, so he abandonned the Utes for a program where he could win a title.Crowton is a creative play caller, but he was a disaster as a head
coach.By your logic, however, BYU can claim another 3 or 4 national
championships by way of Crowton and Chow, as well as several NFL
championships.When your program is devoid of any real
accomplishments of your own, desperately trying to associate yourself with
vicarious accomplishments of others is the only thing you can do to feel good
@Johnson72, It isn't either Utah or Florida. He coached both.@Bleed
Crimson, "the University of Utah, you know the school that put Coach Meyer
on the map. "I did a spit-take at that one. Utah put MEYER on
the map, huh! LOL!!!!!
Swoopy, you again, "Meyer was a carpet-bagger who only used
Utah as a stepping stone.The fact that the kids on the hill continue
to cling to him as if he were one of their own shows just how desperate they are
for recognition." Yes, Meyer was our carpet-bagger! I guess
Crowton was yours!And yes the kids on the hill do cling to greatness
created at the U, where Meyer continued onto 2 National Titles. The Y on the
other hand, does not cling on to greatness, and fires great talent and he
(Crowton) goes on to win a National Championship at LSU!You set me
up perfect SwoopyHang in there Band of Lil Brothers
BleedRedMeyer was a carpet-bagger who only used Utah as a stepping
stone.The fact that the kids on the hill continue to cling to him as
if he were one of their own shows just how desperate they are for recognition.
Too stressfull to take that job on Meyer
I knew Urban Meyer when he was at Utah.Personally, I don't think
he'll get back into coaching, as tempting as the opportunity is and as
competitive as he is, because he knows the stress could be (literally) fatal.Meyer is a great man - I think he'll pass on this and other coaching
Oh my, Johnson.Apparently a case of jealousy, Our coach was bigger
in the national spot light. While your's Johnson was unseen and unheard of.Hang in there Band of LIttle Brother.
Why "former" Utah coach? Well last I checked the Deseret News is
published in Utah. No former Utah coach = no connection the rumor story.
@ Johnson72"I like how they say "former" Utah coach
Urban Meyer, But nothing about his 2 chapionships being with Florida... Just all
about Utah!"Hello, McFly! I wonder why the DNews mentions
"Former Utah coach Urban Meyer". Maybe......This is a Local paper here
in Utah, home of the University of Utah, you know the school that put Coach
Meyer on the map. (52-21 beating of byu/Fiesta Bowl Team). I'm sure you remember
them! You don't measure up Johnson!
Do you honestly think Urban is dumb enough to step into that mess? Not a
chance. That would be the equivalent of Steve Jobs retiring from Apple to take
the CEO job at Enron right after they were caught cooking the books. Urban's
living the dream right now - why would he throw that away to take over as
captain of the Titanic after it's already hit the iceberg?
I like how they say "former" Utah coach Urban Meyer, But nothing about
his 2 chapionships being with Florida... Just all about Utah!
TOO:Back here in Philadelphia, Meyer had been rumored as Joe's
successor months before the current scandal broke out. Schiano and Golden too.
At Paterno's advanced age, few had any idea how proactive they'd need to be
prior to him announcing a retirement that was deemed inevitable. Fact is,
nobody really expected him to have lasted this long. It's not as if the fans
and alumni were eager to see him leave; he's a winner. It's just that we knew
that one day he would.
Urban seems to be listed as a rumored top candidate for every big name coaching
vacancy, but would he really want to try to fill the shoes of a living legend?
Everyone knows the rumors aren't even starting yet. The man was fired 12 hours
ago for crying out loud. This is just a story, no rumors are even started and
we all know Penn State isn't even thinking about the next head coach.
Mike Leach would shake up Happy Valley. His offense is definitely not