Utah, followed by the Russell Pearce/Jerry Lewis debacle has convinced me, and
the thousands of others in illegal immigration reform groups, to never, ever
vote any Mormon into any political office.
Uncle Gadianton, if they are children they go home with the parents, unless they
make arrangements to stay with relatives that are citizens. At 18 they can
return if they wish. If they are over 18, they can choose to stay,
or return home with their parents. It's quite simple. Most of the
time when families immigrate they have to choose leaving family members behind.
You can't bring aunts, uncles, cousins etc. all at once, although some try. I'm in favor of a 90 day amnesty when people returning home can go home
without a 10 year penalty. Do you think amnesty will solve our
illegal immigration problem? Will it stop people from coming here illegally?
RE: Fitness FreakThank you for your response. So, what do you do
if the families of the people you deport are citizens?
@"Uncle Gadianton"Enforcing immigration laws and
deportation of those who violate them!There. That was the easiest
question I've had all day!
I keep hearing strong opposition to "amnesty" for undocumented
immigrants. However, I have not heard any proposed "punishment" for
such persons that would be acceptable. Perhaps the debate would
benefit if the opponents to the Utah Compact, or any other reform, would explain
what doesn't constitute "amnesty."
The Utah compact has and is proving to be a big mistake that will have to be
repealed and filed as another failure of Utah government to understand the
meaning of economic recovery. The Utah compact is killing the economy of Utah as
it offers big business and big job companies the ability to hire slaves and
promote indentured servitude in Utah.Because business can hire
foreign nationals to replace American workers and pay them low wage or no wages
is 'the' disaster to economic recovery.Utah politicians keep
bragging about new jobs from new industry but fail to mention the gross negative
impact on the economy. The jobs are so bad that workers in these jobs are herded
to the welfare office to get food stamps. These 'recovery' jobs are
so negative we have to raise taxes by subversive tactics and misleading
political theft just to keep government in operation. Sure, business profits go
up, but that is dead end growth. Higher profit has no market for expansion or
growth. Money in the bank and they don't need loans so they diversify and sell
their employees debt cards to get back the low wages they were paid.
8,000 people nationwide signed it, or the other two state compact attempts to
slip amnesty past us. Veterans died giving their lives to protect
this country from foreign invaders. This is their day, not yours.
Signers of the compact broke it with the three guest worker bills that by pass
Federal law if they don't get waivers. No other state has followed
Utah, but several have followed Arizona. Utah's three bills were
amnesty to stay and work here, Arizona's was enforcement. Shurtleff can't tell
the difference? Arizona lite? Supplying business with cheap labor is
more important to some in this state, than taking care of the 110,000 out of
work, or following the laws of the land. This is on Veterans day?
There are several entities and sectors of our society which have benefited and
wish to continue to benefit from illegal immigration. The problem is that these
entities and their leaders do so with little or no regard for the long-term bad
effects of illegal immigration. This is an issue of national
security, rule of law, tax and social burden, jobs and the economy, and
preservation and safety of our communities.And though the Deseret
News tells you folks that the "Utah Compact" is having an impact, on a
macro level that's simply not true. A few people here and there might take an
interest in it. But the majority of Americans don't want anything other than for
the borders to be secured and for those who came here illegally to be
accountable for their actions.Shame on any business that hires an
illegal before they would a hungry, unemployed American. And shame on any church
that tells me I lack compassion because I want certain people to respect our
laws, pay their fair share of taxes, pay for the goods and services they
receive, and not steal others' identity.
THe "Utah Compact" remains a very bad deal for honest law-abiding
citizens, and a very good deal for those who want to ignore our laws.It is nothing but an amnesty scheme and a reward to big business hoping to get
cheap labor, but without the need for anyone to obey our immigration laws.Borders, language, culture- as those are rendered meaningless, our
country will collapse.The "Utah Compact" needs to be
rejected and defeated in detail and completely.