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Published: Monday, Nov. 7 2011 7:00 a.m. MST

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Salt Lake City, Utah

Re: NotBuyingIt | 10:22 a.m. Nov. 7, 2011

If you don't like TRAX please don't use it. It will make the ride a little less crowded for those who chose not to drive bumper to bumper on I-15.

West Valley, UT

Don't like I-15? That's what 215 is for. Traffic on the beltloop is rarely backed up. I avoid 15 at all costs, driving on it really scares me.

Fitness Freak
Salt Lake City, UT

The original Sandy to downtown line is usually full or almost full. The trains to the U. are usually close to full also, (although they use less cars). The new West valley and Daybreak lines have VERY FEW riders.

Each time UTA starts another "choo choo" they TAKE AWAY buses.

UTA assumed that because the first Sandy line was successful, ALL OTHERS would also be successful.

Rumor is; they're already having to heavily subsidize frontrunner to keep it moving (beyond the "normal" subsidies).

I would like to see an OUTSIDE audit of UTA concerning: how many folks ride, how many folks are NOT PAYING their fares, and how much total budget goes to the "choo choo's".

Beverly Hills, CA

---Fitness Freak | 5:35 p.m. Nov. 7, 2011
Salt Lake City, UT
Rumor is; they're already having to heavily subsidize frontrunner to keep it moving (beyond the "normal" subsidies).---\

So we can post rumors on these forums? Awesome.

Jarren Smith
Hilliard, OH

There is definitely a design flaw that is causing all of these deaths.

City, Ut

I love trax and use it whenever I can. I love the price, the convenience and the option to use it.

I am just really puzzled by the unbelievable amount of people, cars, trucks, bicycles etc hit by it.

CHS 85
Sandy, UT

@Fitness Freak

You are aware (I assume) that the Daybreak line and the University line are one and the same, right?

How many buses out there can carry 400 passengers every 15 minutes? I'd like to see it.

Salt Lake City, UT

Thank you Jarren Smith for your excellent comment. No, question that the effort to be less expensive has led to design flaws that come with inherent safety risks. Sadly this is one of the costs of having a ground based system in dense pedestrian and light vehicle traffic areas. It is one the reasons that in urban locations such transit systems are either elevated or below ground. The system is necessary and great addition to the transportation system, but costs of operation need to be fully paid by the users. Further, new construction needs to have its own tax base and not continue to raid the transportation funds generated by vehicles through gas taxes. This misuse of funds is the reason for unkept roads, bridges, etc. which the administration now asks for additional monies to support. More used it over there, now give me some more so I can use on what that money was suppose to pay for.

South Jordan, UT

@Fitness Freak

Sure, by the time you get out to Daybreak there aren't many riders left on the train. It's the end of the line, in an area still building out. But through Midvale and West Jordan the rider count is pretty comparable to what I used to see on the Sandy line at about the same distance from downtown.

It may just be a 'choo-choo' to you, but the rest of us have grown up and learned to get out of our cars.

Altamont, UT

I don't live in the Salt Lake Valley, but when I come to town (often), I love the Trax...it is worth it to not have to fight downtown traffic and find a place to park, then pay $$ to park...etc. For me, it's also much faster to get to downtown, and then around downtown.

I think it's time will come. Like all "new" things, it takes some getting used to.

I loved the comment about the liquor laws and 25 years, BTW...

Salt Lake City, Utah

The Deseret News is reporting that: "A 51-year-old man was killed in an auto-pedestrian accident Tuesday morning." Opponents of TRAX like to ignore or gloss over auto related deaths .... probably because they are much more common.

Utes, Jazz, and RSL Forever
Taylorsville, UT

Even with all the accidents we have seen involving TRAX this year, I would bet that we have more deadly accidents on the road involving cars every month than we have had the entire year with TRAX. We just need to learn common sense such as don't cross the tracks when the train is coming, don't try to cross the tracks when the arms are down even if there is no train in sight, and be aware of your surroundings. If we did that accidents involving TRAX would be a rarity.

As for the lack of ridership on the West Valley line, I think part of the reason is that there isn't very much parking available close to the stops that serve that line (2 of the 4 stops don't have park and ride lots) so people that might drive to TRAX and then ride it might be discouraged that way. I also think it doesn't go out far enough, if you took it out to the West Valley Fitness Center or even took it out to Magna you would probably have a lot more people riding since the stops would serve a lot more people along the way.

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