Jon says Mitt has a head start, but everything a candidate does prior to running
is part of his election strategy...lets look at Jon's leaving the
Gov. job at mid-term for China, for example, he said he had no choice but to do
as the Pres. desired, then after 1 1/2 yrs. he resigns and jumps into Pres.
race...was that according to the Pres. Obama's wishes too?? I don't think so, I
think the whole China thing was to get national exposure for the Presidential
run..now, say again, how long has Jon been running? more than he
admits, I believe.
I guess it's great for Junior to have Senior as his biggest fan and who may turn
out to be his bedtime adviser to the White House also. And I do believe Huntsman
Jr. is the sleeper candidate here. Yet he is at the same time to much of a
technocrat replica of Obama with the same weaknesses of being great at doing
deals, wonderful at being a diplomat; but follows in the corporate authoritarian
foot steps, understands business but not the economy, loves trade but does not
understand what america needs, believes in zero tax on capital gains, and
therefore will kill the middle class like the remainder of the candidates. And
it is kind of a lost opportunity because he looks bright, intelligent, quick,
young, very appealing, a great white hope...But I believe I will have to say no;
but he might be the best bet for the Republicans because he is in many ways a
white barack...like Elvis was the white gospel singer...One thing is for sure: I
ain't going to vote DEM! That is a certainty! Naybe, Maybe if Junior
suppported Glass-Steagall HR 1489, then maybe...who knows?..
Every goose thinks their own gosling a swan.
Ms Molli: What a person's religion is shouldn't matter for the the office of
president of the US, but not living your professed religion or being wishy washy
about it says something about the person. When Huntsman said his beliefs were
"hard to define" it appeared that he either doesn't know what he
believes or he was willing to distance himself from his faith for political
expediency. I respect someone who stands up for their faith even when it isn't
popular to do so. Given candidates of equal experience and
conservative principles I would choose the one who lives his faith without
embarrassment over a lukewarm member of my own faith. Huntsman has
experience but lacks some of the conservative principles I want. Romney may
have been less conservative in the past, but show me someone who never changes
their opinion based on information and experience and I'll show you someone who
is dogmatic and unwilling to learn. I have read Romney's book, "No
Apology," and I believe his conservative ideals are genuine. Standing by his faith gives me greater confidence that he has integrity and
will do his best to accomplish conservative goals in the White House.
Ms Molli: The point is NOT what his religion is. The point is that when asked
to take a stand, he went squishy. He didn't have the courage to stand up for
his faith. He gave a non-committal, political, wobbly answer. That doesn't
make people think that he is a man of character or principle. That's what
people objected to. When he was governor he spent more time worrying about
photo ops than anything else. It got pretty hard to take. His
father is a great man who loves his son. But, he'd be on Mitt's team if his son
wasn't running--just as he has in the past.
Huntsmans biggest problem here in Utah is that people do know him.
Stick to your ideals & principles Jon Jr. don't ever change to radicalism,
greed, cheating, lying, stealing or being a flip flooper like others in this
campaign in your party. I would absolutely love it if you would become an
independent and run as such. Your intellect and character would then get the
respect you deserve from people that love this country, instead of those others
that love themselves. Do it Jon, your the man for me.
Its interesting that on other posts there seems to be a theme that religion
shouldn't matter, yet some of the posters on this thread claim they wouldn't
vote for Huntsman because he wouldn't take a stand about his religion? So
apparently religion does matter?
Remember the fable of the frog and scorpion? We don't need someone who will
compromise with the future of the Country. We don't need any more Presidents
who ignore the Constitution and the heritage of the United States. We need men
of courage who will stand up to the progressives, the Courts, and those who are
leeches on society. The problem is we know Jon, Jr--and we don't need another
frog who will succumb to the scorpions of the left.
I really admire Jon Huntsman Sr. But, if Jr. weren't his son, he's be on Mitt
Romney's team just as he has been in the past. I don't think Jr. is probably
electable this year or any other year.
Like father, not like son...is right. Jon Huntsman Jr. may be polished,
even-tempered and articulate. But he is not Ronald Reagan, conservative or
perhaps even Republican. When you court the Gay rights money but shun
Conservative groups, that says a lot. Sorry, Huntsman Sr., even though I respect
you and your humble roots, your son doesn't understand middle income struggles,
as Governor ridiculed concervative groups by complaining about so-called
"message bills". Really? People of faith can't sponsor legislation in
line with their values and beliefs? What are your values and beliefs? You seemed
to have a tough time with conservatives promoting family friendly legislation
when you were here.
With due respect Sr. Hunstman Pipes said it best.... It is that fact alone that
soiled his integrity and integrity is everything!
Interesting, if not bizarre comments from the head of Utah's royal family. The fact is Republicans have gotten to know Huntsman. That's why he's
getting about 1% of their support. There's no kinship with his political views.
It would be wiser for him to run next time as a Democrat. His funny religious
views aren't too far off the family's uncommitted political views. They fund
both parties each election. (I think it's called influence.)
Jon Huntsmans Jrs explanation on his faith was so wishy-washy, I immediately
lost interest in him. He sounds like a fence sitter wanting it both ways. When
he can tell us what his core values are then I will be interested in looking at
him again. Some people attack Romney for his core values. I can see Romney's
core values. I have no idea what Huntsman's core values are.Like it
was said above, I like father but so far I don't like son.
Huntsman for Secretary of State
Know him...still don't like him, still won't vote for him. The denouncing of
his religeon was enough for me.
So Huntsman, if running for president of China "would already have won the
presidency". Is that because he really is a flaming leftist, and fit right
in because the Chinese have embraced communism? I think we in Utah
already know Huntsman. No thanks.
Jon Huntsman, Jr., is the ONLY decent candidates the Republicans have. Of
course he won't get their support, since he's not a far right wing fringe nut.
With respect to Jon Sr. I have to remind all that Jon Jr. is the governor who
bailed out and left us with Governor Herbert. I can't support a man who would
do a thing like that. We really cannot risk having a president going AWOL.
I already know his son, which is why I won't vote for him.
Dad thinks son would be good president...stunning insight from the DN. I'm sure
many readers were wondering what his daddy thought of him.I like Jr.
but getting into the field late is no one's fault but his own. Trying to run as
a moderate in a party that has shut moderates out is equally problematic. Jr's biggest problem is that he doesn't stand out. He hasn't highlighted
the real differences between him and the others. He's gotten in a few good jokes
but he was a complete no-show at the last debate. That was definitely a tactical
mistake.I'd like to see him run again. I'm not sure I'd vote for him
but he would certainly be worthy of serious consideration.
"His son, he said, never gets unraveled when the going gets tough. "I
love that part about him. I've never seen him upset in his life. I've tried, as
his father, to test him from time to time, but he's a very savvy
man.""Just wondering, Jon, why did you find it necessary
as a father to test your son like that? Strange .......
I'd really like to see Jon Huntsman, Jr. win the presidential election. His
experience in China is just what we need here in the US. He sure managed the
state of Utah well & we are still in good shape compared to other states.
Jon would make a great President.
"if he were running for President in China, he'd have already
won"????Is that an endorsement?
"Support is a very complex thing to define." I can tell you, when Jr.
Huntsman had the chance to stand up for his heritage and religious roots and he
showed NO character to being asked if he was a Mormon, he lost the vote and
respect of everyone...on both sides of belief.
we know jr. and he is no senior. sr is a class act and great man. jr is hard to
The only candidate with a real plan is Ron Paul. This paper ignores everything
about Paul. Making people in Utah think the only candidate is Romney. What a
Jr. does not come across as able, presidential material. But then again, the one
we have now proves he is not able and as far from presidential as a human could
Certainly one can understand a father's "pride" in an offspring.
However, Sr's. snide comments (in this article and previous one) toward Romney
are unfortunate. They reveal jealousy, envy and contempt. That is very
unbecoming.Jr. is not intellectually prepared to run for
POTUS.....yet. That is not saying he won't be in the future. The snide
remarks about Mitt running for 4+ years strengthen my support for Mitt as he IS
intellectually prepared as well as organizationally. Let's be
honest........Mitt QUIETLY help get MANY Republicans elected in 2010. It was
about OUR country. He could've been in front of the camera and making
headlines.......but he wasn't.It is VERY telling that UT.....a state
that knows Jr. the best.......will overwhelmingly support Mitt.
Jon Huntsman Jr would have much better success if he ran as a Democrat. I'm sure
his father thinks the world of him, but hardly a non-biased opinion.
When he spoke about his faith, or the lack thereof, I learned all I needed to
about Jon Huntsman Jr.
Bifftacular | 11:23 p.m. Oct. 27, 2011Spanish Fork, Ut Wrong
year to run as a moderate? And then you concede that Obama will probably win a
second term? Its the right wing obstructionists that is running the wrong race.
Only a moderate has any chance at all. The Republican party is forcing their
candidate to go as far right, or even further, than Obama is on the left. It is
the wrong time to run as an obstructionist Republican but the time may never be
so right to run as a sensible moderate. The Republican budgets will not fly
because of their insistence on not raising taxes on the wealthy. The Occupy
movement should be more focused on the problem - the obstructionist Congressmen.
You republicans are crazy! Huntsman is heads and shoulders above the candidates
you people have out there now. Yes he is moderate, and every single president
from either party that has been a "great" president was the same.
Whats the reason to be radical, racist, and greedy? Mommy and daddys spoiled
brats. They want everything NOW, don't want to sacrifice to attain anything,
have NO respect for anything or anybody ect, ect! Thats what I call the
"instant gratification" generation (15-50 year olds). Get some old
history films & books out spoiled ones and see how this country was built to
be the best and it certainly wasn't through greed and didn't happen overnight!
I'm an independent, native Utahn (72 yrs) and Huntsman would certainly get my
I think Jon jr. Will get at least one vote.
A comment to Jon Huntsman Sr., we already know your son. Like Father, not like
son. He won't even win his own state, let alone the nomination.
Sorry Jon Sr. With all due respect, the problem is not how well voters know your
son. In fact, the more voters have gotten to know your son, the less
enthusiastic they've become. I'm not sure any Republican candidate has done more
interviews or spent more time in the media than your son. The result? He has
gone DOWN in the polls and now sits at 1 percent in the national polls and has
cratered even in New Hampshire where he has focused all his efforts. Your son
can't decide which political party he really wants to represent. Frankly, he
would probably do better as a Deomcrat in 2016 than he will ever do as a
Republican because at his core he is more of a liberal than anything else. No
amount of spending from his own or the family fortune will help him get
anywhere. He is simply not what voters want or what the country needs. It's also
embarrassing how much he equivocates on his personal religious beliefs. There is
no religious test and that's the way it should be, but when a candidate can't
even decide on his own religious beliefs, that's a very bad sign.
I just think it's too late to really get to know him. No one's seen him for the
last few years, because he's been stored away in a Chinese freezer. I just like
Romney's chances better.
In most cases I would follow Jon Sr.'s advice, but in this one I think he is a
little biased. If Jon Jr. weren't his son, I doubt Jon Sr. would vote for him.
I'm sure Jon Jr. would make an excellent president of China, like his father
suggested, but we need to elect the President of the United States of America.
I love Huntsman. He's fiscally conservative, a little more socially
understanding, and a great diplomat. He's the type we need in this country to
bring people together and set the country on course for a strong century. The
problem we have now is we are spending ourselves to oblivion. And on the social
issues side we are dividing ourselves rather than trying to see where we are
common. People don't realize that Americans are far more united on the issues
than we are divided. But the politicians focus on the differences.Here's to Jon Huntsman, Jr for the future.
I'm sure Jon Huntsman is a very capable individual and I like him personally but
here are his problems:1) He's running in an election year with perhaps the
strongest Republican field in decades2) He's running as a moderate against
a President that is very polarizing and becoming increasingly unpopular for his
liberal policies. Wrong year to run as a moderate.3) He's a mormon but
he's not even the most popular mormon in the race4) If had an election was
held in Utah today, he wouldn't be the State's Republican nominee. He can't even
win his own StateHis best hope politically is for Obama to win
re-election, further drive the country into a ditch, and the run again in 2016