@che loco"they certainly love to dish it out, but when anything
negative is said about their (horrible) basketball program their feelings are
just too sensitive "I thought we were too apathetic about
basketball to care? Which is it? Besides... *sniff* you know our team is
horrible... like really, really bad. Like Geneva Convention against torture bad.
Like so terrible that we should be beyond the mocking range and straight into
the pitying range... you know, like the Pittsburgh Pirates or Minnesota
Duckhunter,Exactly my point. If there is nothing positive to post
why post it unless it is your own work product. It is laziness to take it off
other sites. I am well informed and I read counter points of view all the time.
I can find these things on my own. I don't need the Deseret News constantly
finding this stuff. You like it because that is your nature. Corrective
criticism can be good. Too much and it defeats its purpose. The b-ball program
at the U has been criticized enough. It is time for a break.
BYU Joe,Will you have that same bravado tonight?
CougFaninTX,I don't think anybody let Sharp get away. The Utes
fought to keep him, but that darn thing called integrity meant the athletic
department had to admit a mistake was made and let him go. Otherwise, I think
Coach K would have had a good chance in a face to face meeting of convincing him
to stay.What I think happened to Sharp happens to a lot of LDS
missionaries. You get out there on your mission with other missionaries who
have been or are planning to go to BYU. Your mission president loves BYU. You
want to keep serving the Lord for the rest of you life and some how going to BYU
seems to be the way to go. It happened to me many years ago on my mission and
to my son when he was on his mission. Fortunately both me and my son came to
our senses once we were home and stayed with the U. If Sharp had waited to make
his decision until he got home, I think he may have stayed at the U.
Woodyff,Yes, I am glad we are in the Pac 12. I didn't expect a cake
walk. As a fan I welcome stiffer competition. I believe what doesn't kill us
makes us stronger. I see all our athletic teams taking the opportunity to
recruit better talent, improve our facilities and make overall improvements in
their programs. They've been able to accomplish a lot with a little. Now they
will have the resources to step it up. We can't expect instant success, because
of where we are coming from. But the future looks awefully bright.
Well that will match perfectly with how they finish in Football. I
know it is better to be a little fish in a big pond than a big fish in a little
pond. Except in this case U are more like fish food in a big pond. I will always admit my jealousy for U being in the Pac - but seriously if U
are going to play there at least show up. U are making the whole state look
bad. It just makes me feel sad for U. OKay maybe I laugh a little
- okay a lot - but secretly (not when my BYU friends are looking) and when I
talk to my friends here in the Pac I tell them how much I want you to do well.
And then U let me down there too - It's as if U can do nothing right. It's just sad.
@DutchmanYou realize there isn't any way for the Dnews to post a
link to a positive article about utah basketball don't you? Nothing anyone is
going to write is going to be positive because the program is pretty terrible
right now. I see this same complaint from a lot of utah fans on
here, they don't want to read anything negative they just want the sorry state
of their teams to be ignored until they turn it around. I guess I understand why
that is but it just doesn't work that way. When you are good you will be praised
and when you are bad you will be correctly criticized.I personally
enjoy the red and blue roundup sections because I don't search the web looking
for stuff like that. It is easy for me to just see it here and I don't have to
go out of my way. What I find interesting is that for some reason you don't want
to see the things being written by the media that covers the conference you guys
are so pridefull about being in. I know the basketball team sucks but you still
ought to find it interesting and informative.
Duckhunter,Actually, I agree with you. Yes, Deseret News stop
finding and posting all the negative web articles you can find about the U
b-ball program until coach K has a chance to get things turned around. We all
know what the situation is and we don't need to have it repeatedly thrown in our
faces. I personally don't care for the Red and Blue Roundup sections of the
Deseret News. It is lazy journalism to just go out and find links to other
journalist's work products and create a link to it in the online Deseret News.
Most of us know how to find that stuff on our own. If the Deseret News wants to
do some old fashioned journalism and write an article on their own and be
critical of the Utes then have at it. Just don't leave it to others. My tender
feelings are feeling better already.
Good thing the Utes arent in the WCC, they cant even beat the worst team in that
conference, San Diego! But will all seriousness, look for Utah to
win no more than 8 games this season
hahaha...runaway utes picked to finish last...seriously? some things,
especially when it's this obvious...just don't have to be mentioned.
re: USAlover"It's great to be a UTE!"From the
sea of empty red chairs filling the Huntsman Center lately, it's obvious that
number of Utah fans who share your enthusiasm is dwindling fast.On
the bright side, Utah is giving away free b-ball tickets at the Gateway.
If Utes were still in MWC, they might be picked to finish last in the
conference. Too bad you let Sharp get away. He looked "Sharp" in the
scrimmage last night.
It's great to be a UTE!
Im tired of Portland Trailblazer coming on utah sites and bad mouthing UTAH
TEAMS... The utes have a lot of work to do yes, and byu will be decent this year
with the loss of jimmer everyone knows this....
Hey Utes, aren't you glad you are in the PAC-12 now?
Oh the value of low expectations.
Grab the tissue, Cougar fans... Ute fans are getting way too sensitive here...
they certainly love to dish it out, but when anything negative is said about
their (horrible) basketball program their feelings are just too sensitive &
the whining ensues...
I certainly hope Utah will do better. The young players look promising. This
could be a great table setter year for Coach K and his basically new team. It
would be nice to see the Huntsman packed.Final question, why all the
comments about other schools in a Utah basketball story. Seems inappropriate
and in some cases childish.
motorbike "if we Ute fans cared as much about glamorous records
as you all do, we'd simply become Independent..."Possibly a
little sooner than most of us expected, but it's nice to see that Utah has
already accepted their role as whipping boy for the PAC 12. Trading wins for
paychecks is a rite of passage for big boy conference cellar dwellers.
yep, Utah hoops is down so go ahead and pile on Y fans. There will be a big
talent drop-off in happy valley this year that many Y fans don't see coming.
BYUs win/loss record may be decent this yeat but that's only because of the
incredibly weak schedule.Last year was the pinnacle of the Y program
by getting to the sweet 16, something the Utes have done 9 times.
BYU 6-2 going bowlingUtah 3-4, probably not going bowling
For all the Coug fans out in full force......enjoy it while it
lasts. I predict it won't last long, beginning with game one in Logan. Your one
good year out of 40 just happened.And for all those who throw football
into this conversation...if we Ute fans cared as much about glamorous records as
you all do, we'd simply become Independent or join the West Coast Conference.
In fact I'm pretty sure even our struggling Ute basketball team would have
a decent shot at beating Idaho State on the gridiron this year.Looking
forward to QCW (quiet Cougar week) next Sept. Such a peaceful time of year.
Utah fans bid farewell to a once mighty basketball team. Or was that football
@portlandtrailblazersNobody saw this coming with football, but
b-ball yes. Right now i wish utah had byu's schedule at the moment for
football. they would easily be bowl eligible.
First to Portland: 54-102nd to Fisco, TX: Utah won't lose by 44 to anyone
including Arizona and UCLA combined. Utah will take their lumps the
first two years. It is a proven fact that one or two good players can change
around a lot of things. Majerus had good players, tough guys and one or two
excellent players. He preached, tough defense, rebounding, great picks, free
throw shooting and not turning the ball over. A bunch of decent athletes can
learn those skills. The offense will eventually come around. I believe Coach K
has many of the same philosophies. Utes will make strides this year
and it appears with the pickup of two very good players and the possibility of a
few more, the future will improve. I am not looking for a miracle but will look
for improvement and a solid foundation.
The utes will improve this year if they can keep their players at from Run'n to
other schools. A last place finish and they will lose any good players that was
considering going there. Who wants to play B-ball in a sub-par conference and
then top it off with a last place team.
@DutchmanI suppose it would be your preference if the news didn't
report anything at all about utah basketball until such a time as it would be
positive news? Saving your tender feelings aside it would be a very looooooooong
time until you got some ute basketball news.LOL!
0-4 for Utes in the pac 10.2basketball picked to finish last in the
pac 10.2how are things working out for the utes in the pac 10.2?How 'bout them mighty Utes!Talk about an athletic program on
Oh, this is really laughable. They really should be picked about 15th but that
isn't possible since there are only 12 teams in the conference.This
reminds me years ago when Utah defeated BYU in Provo in football (rather rare
back then) and the U had a better BBall program and an older U fan stood up and
said to the Y fans around him "Don't worry; there's always
basketball." Then he laughed heartily. I'd remind him about current U
BBall and U PAC 12 football, except by now I'm sure he's pushing up daiseys.So yes, U might get a program together again, but it will take years.
You're not immune to the ups and downs of college athletics just because you
view the world through crimson-colored glasses. Enjoy a losing season in
I am excited to watch Coach K and the boys this year. I think they will improve
as the season goes along. GO UTES!
yea but at least they are in the pac 10 plus 2. big deal!
Portland Trail Blazers,Last time I checked Coach K wasn't a
registered trademark by anyone.
stop calling him coach k. We all know the real Coah K is at Duke.
SoCalTrueBlue2,You missed the point. Of course there are web
articles out there both negative and positive. The point is, the Deseret News
makes a point of finding anything negative about the U and putting a link to it
on their web page. We all know and understand the situation of the current
b-ball program at the U. We don't need a link to a negative article telling us
what we already know. Those who want to have the internet savvy to find this
stuff on their own.
Yes, a last-place-finish vote was expected. I don't know how voters could have
justified putting them anywhere else. Too much turnover, too many new faces, an
unproven coach, etc. Having said all that, it will make it all that much more
fun if the Utes end up surprising people this year. Looking forward to seeing
the youngbucks Odunsi and Matthews.
Dear Dutchman, Running an article on a national sports' organization's
predictions for the upcoming basketball season is hardly an example of searching
the internet for unfavorable news on the Utes. The Utes have a lot to prove on
the basketball court. I wish them well except when they play BYU.--Cougar
I will concede this year is going to be a struggle for the Ute basketball team,
but the future looks bright. The Ute's 2012 recruiting class is far and away
the best in the State of Utah. Jordan Loveridge is at the top of the list as a
4 star recruit and the only recruit in the ESPNU 100 committed to any school in
Utah. Coach K is doing a great job recuiting and building his team for the
Who needs Duckhunter? Count on the Deseret News to fish the internet for
anything negative they can find about the U.
This is no surprise. Anyone who expected Utah be top of the PAC 12 in B-ball
this year is dreaming. They may surprise us, but I'm not expecting too much. CougFaninTX - I highly doubt your cougs will beat anyone by 44 points
this year. Without Fredette, maybe they should focus on putting 44 points on the
board before they worry about beating anyone by 44.
@CougFaninTXNo Jimmer = BYU = .500. Oh wait, you play
in the WCC...definitely above .500, but no NCAA tourney this year.
I'm expecting the Cougs to beat the Utes by 44 points.
With 10 news players, a brand new coaching staff, and very little to build on
from last season, the Utes will be doing well to get to double-digit wins this