I understand getting a little tired of the battle, as Sister Kendrick talks
about. But I also know that the leaders of the church have advised us to get
involved in electronic media and to defend and explain our beliefs and to let
people get to know us. Most comments I read, responding to
electronic media articles, that are obviously from LDS are very respectful.
Every now and then I also see comments defending us from non-LDS who are tired
of the vicious attacks against LDS. So when people get tired of the
fray they just need to step back for awhile to clear their vision, but don't
make the mistake of attacking those who are trying to bring some truth and
understanding to others by getting involved in the electronic media.
These recommendations are great for anyone, no matter their religion. I will
work to focus my energy on what is productive. Thanks
I was born a Southern Baptist, was baptized into the LDS Church at 12(because I
saw such a difference in my Mother)was never ridiculed by extended family who
are still Baptist. At 19 went on a Mission for the Church to England where
among other things had rocks thrown at me(real rocks) no problem. Went into the
Army as a practicing Mormon never a problem(to my face they knew better); went
to university confronted much opposition, no problem. Then about 20 years ago I
begin meeting fundamentalist Christians who'd say that I'm not Christian, a
problem. I take every opportunity when confronted with this comment to dispute
& explain (in a Christian manner) that yes I'm Christian & why I'm a
Christian (even though like everyone I fall short) So far some very spiritual
conversations & good friends(who happen to be Fundamentalist Christian)
& together we find what we can agree on. Thank you Brother Flowers &
Tomorrow I will sub for our Sunday School teacher and our lesson is on Paul-A
Chosen Vessel. I think in this case with there being a LDS running for President
and also being at the top, we could learn much from Paul's examples. I know my
Savior, I know the teaching of my belief, and so I try to overlook what is said
about my faith. Christ Himself, was not recognized as the Savior, and I am no
better than He. If we will follow the examples of our Savior Jesus Christ and
Paul, and when speaking, do it with love and firmness, who knows who the spirit
will touch? We cannot follow the examples of those who do not understand we
must follow the counsel of Luke, "But I say unto you which hear, Love your
enemies, do good to them which hate you" Luke 6:27
Vote for the mormon guy. You'll survive.
I find it to be a semantical argument. Isn't the difference between a religion
and a cult simply a head count?
Any church member who was truly offended or upset by being called a cult member
needs to go on a mission and knock on doors for several hours. It gives you a
think skin. It doesn't bother me when people call the church a
cult. It doesn't even bother me when people who have left the church claim that
the rest of us haven't enlightened ourselves like they have. The
Church will continue to go for boldly and nobly and, most important,
independently. It will never be popular. The gospel has never been that way.
So don't worry what a pastor in Texas thinks. It's not worth getting upset
Who cares? I don't. Say what you may, act as you may it will all be lost in the
noise of eternity. Believe or don't believe, be a member, non-member or former
member; GOD gave you the agency to do just that. Use your agency with wisdom,
because you get to live with your decisions. As for me, I believe that I am a
Christian, however I often fall short of what I believe that means. I think the
Church is guided by "big boys" who have been around the block,
understand the PR game, and for the most part choose not to play the game. If
you choose to play it, fine, enjoy yourself.
"hard pressed to find better people anywhere". There you go again!You are never going to make friends saying you are better than everyone else.
I agree that we are not to get defensive or lose civility. But I disagree that
we do not say anything about whether we are Christians or not. I believe it is a
serious mistake to permit anyone to say we are not Christian, without a
response. I disagree with Teryl Givens, there is no such thing as a follower of
Christ who is not Christian.Remaining silent has been the PR approach of the
Church in the past, and polling shows that only permitted the idea that we where
a cult to increase. In this day and age, we have to take control of our image or
others will shape it for us, despite our many little service projects.Your view runs contrary to the current practice of the Church. Public Affairs
Director Michael Otterson, continuoulsy writes on a blog for the Washington Post
defending the Church.It is extremely naive to believe you can simply
ignore attacks. We may as well ignore everything going on in the world and live
in little dream worlds where everything is great.I would invite
everyone into the real world where words matter, image matters, and truth.
An old proverb states, "The proof is in the pudding". Naysayers may
nay, but there is no getting around the kind of people this gospel produces. When a person faithfully adheres to gospel principles, one becomes hard
pressed to find better people anywhere.
I appreciated this article.. but I agree that we need to speak out, but deff in
a Christian way.. peacefully. Haters are haters.. they will only see light when
they are ready. When THEY want to know about the church.. sincerely, they will
come to an ACTIVE member to hear the truth of what we believe and stop jumping
on band wagons blindly.. such nonsense and immaturity. Oh..and
btw... Tell me Please.. How ANY person can believe God, Jesus and the Holy Ghost
are ONE PERSON after Ready Act 7 vs 55-56?? "But he being full
of the Holy Ghost, looked up steadfastly into heaven, and SAW God, and Jesus
standing on the right hand of God, (56) And said, Behold, I see the heavens
opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God."Doe These People Actually READ there OWN Scriptures?? KJV of course...
Amen sister. I try not to dwell on the negative things people say about us. Why?
Because my testimony is rooted in my love of my Savior, not in the things people
think about me. I will answer questions about it, but it does no good to lash
out and be angry. Contention does the exact opposite of what we're trying to do:
teach people about Jesus Christ.
Oftentimes we make assumptions and judgments about other religions and groups
and we think we are right, and even if they say otherwise oftentimes we say
pfft, whatever, you are too a __ fill in the blank. How often do we try to
research and understand from legitimate sources? There are people who are quite
vocal about their negative beliefs of the Church. And whether we declare boldly
in all caps statements that we are NOT this or we ARE that, those people will
still believe what they believe unless they research the legitimate sources. I
learned in Sociology that there is a cult, sect and church- a cult is generally
seen as a negative thing but really a cult is a group that is seen as strange or
different to the rest of society. When the church was first formed it was a
cult, then as more people began to accept and understand it and join, it became
a sect and then it grew even more and became more widely acceptable and became
considered a church.
Any time you upset the apple cart by challenging what has been, you will be
labelled and attempts will be made to marginalize or demonize your efforts. It
happened to the early Christians, it happened to the reformers and it has and is
happening to "mormons". I agree with the sentiment of the article, but
I don't think silence is the answer. I think it appropriate to respond, but
peacefully. One of the greatest principles I have learned is to "speak the
truth with love". It is my hope to always do so. Those who choose to attack
with misrepresentations and name-calling eventually end up looking shallow and
mean spirited. If the way they act is what they mean by "Christian"
then I am happy to simply be called a humble follower of Christ instead.
Great advice. Ignore it! Stop finding joy in being persecuted. Get on with
Great column. Absolutely spot on. As far as mudslinging and anti-Mormon epithets
are concerned, as the old chestnut goes, "You ain't seen nothin' yet!"
And what difference does (or will) all the hyperbole make in the overall eternal
scheme of things? Not one scintilla. The scriptures counsel, "Work out your
own salvation with fear and trembling." Good advice for all of us.
Mormons should stop being so sensitive. Christianity was considered a cult of
Judaism because it venerated the prophet Jesus. This "sect" of
Christianity called "The Way" in the New Testament was considered
blasphemous by Jews of its day.In the early centuries AD, the
councils of Nicaea and Chalcedon formulated views on the trinity that have been
historically accepted by all mainstream Christianity. Centuries later, the
Christian church broke into Eastern Orthodoxy and Western Orthodoxy
(Catholicism). Both believed in the orthodox trinity.The
Reformation brought about additional sects (divisions), viewed as
"cults" by the Catholic Church because they generally involved
personalities (Luther, Calvin, etc). All of these views of Christianity
(Lutheran, Reformed, Baptist) believed in the orthodox view of the trinity.Mormonism does not believe in the orthodox view of the trinity.
Additionally, Mormonism is considered a "cult" because additional
revelation was given to new prophets. Mormonism is not mainstream Christianity
anymore than "The Way" was mainstream Judaism when additional
"revelation" was given to its prophets (Jesus, John, Peter, etc).Early Christians of The Way were a cult. Mormonism is a cult. This is
how orthodoxy views new strands of religion. Is it true? That is the question.
I was a Mormon, and it definitely fits the definition of a "cult."
Yes, I know ... I believed it with all my heart and soul once, too. But when
you step outside of it and look back, it's quite obvious.