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Salt Lake county still split three ways; Demos may sue

Published: Monday, Oct. 17 2011 12:00 p.m. MDT

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Salt Lake City, Utah

Please all Utahn's rise up and vote out every member of the House who went into that closed door caucus. I don't care if you replace them with R's or D's, but replace them. There blatant disregard for the citizens of this state is shameful and should be rewarded by sending them all packing.


I agree with Fred44. Toss the whole lot of them and start over. Whoever campaigns against this current group has my support.

Bountiful, Utah

If they had nothing to hide, they wouldn't need to meet in secrecy.


I'm sorry. "A Senate Leaders' conference in Argentina"? Really?


"Senate Leaders' meeting" in Argentina? ReallY?

m.g. scott

I'm from California. You should experience it when the Democrats do just the same and ramrod new districts through that disenfranchise the Republicans, for both state and federal offices. Complaints didn't get traction there, and I for one am glad to see some Republicans taking a hard ball approach. If you have the majority, take full advantage of it. I doubt the Democrats would do it any different if they were in control.

Cedar City, UT

Rural Utah gets the short end of the stick in the "pizza slices". Salt Lake area always will get the representational priority and our issues will never be addressed. Southern Utah deserves it's own congressman rather than continuing as unrepresented peasants who are only spoken to at election time.

Bountiful, Utah

@m.g.scott, Your position is commonly seen on the boards "I should be able to do this because I see other people doing it too", so I'm not picking on you, just saw your post as an example here. Let me just say that this mindset is EXACTLY what is wrong with this country. By the time my children were 8 years old they knew they would never get away with that argument again to justify their unacceptable behavior. Is all we have left in this country are a bunch of followers who are following the wrong leader? Why won't people stand up for what is right these days, instead of trying to excuse their behavior because they see others doing it too?

Johnny Triumph
American Fork, UT

I like it, let's get this thing settled!

Bountiful, UT

I would like to thank my representative, Jim Nielson, for standing up to the Republican party leadership and letting it be known that he thinks these caucuses should be open. I agree that the Republicans are doing themselves a disservice (and they are doing their constituents a disservice) in closing the meetings. I wish more Republicans would stand up for what is right and fair, rather than just doing what they think will allow them to keep their jobs (gerrymandering behind closed doors). PLEASE represent US, not yourselves.

Mormon Left
North Salt Lake, UT

Tell me again why we don't set up an independent and objective process of redistricting? This is, once again, representatives picking their voters instead of the other way around. And save me the "both sides do it." As Kami said, that doesn't make it right or desirable.

Wasatch Al
South Jordan, UT

Senator Waddoups is in a senate leadership meeting in Argentina? Guess who paid for that boondoogle? Yep, you did! That's why he likes to keep those districts pure republican.

Mary E Petty
Sandy, UT

Nobody likes change, but I am grateful we finally have our 4th Seat so Utah can contribute more to federal legislative decisions. With Utah being a conservative leaning State, I expect our State legislature to create a Congressional map with 4 district boundaries that will reflect this majority view point. And I expect this voice of the people of Utah will speak loudly in the next election cycle as a result of our legislators redistricting actions.

Redistricting will ruffle feathers but it is a tough job that must be done by our elected officials. That is what we the people have elected them to do. As a part of their constitutionally-mandated duty to redistrict Utah, they have openly involved the public in the process and are listening to us. I for one, thank them for doing this hard work in our behalf.

Lane Myer
Salt Lake City, UT

Mary E Petty

Why have districts if all our representatives are suppose to think, act, and vote like the majority? Why not just have a state vote for 4 congressmen?

The answer is that they are suppose to represent the people in their district - senators represent the whole state.

If there are 25% of the citizens who are democratic, shouldn't 25% of the congressmen be democratic? Doesn't that make more sense?

one vote
Salt Lake City, UT

Argentina calls for an inquiry.

the greater outdoors, UT

In the infamous words of your Dear Leader:

"Elections have consequences. We won!"

Enough said!

And Lane, Senators are supposed to represent the interests of the state, not the people of the state and where does it say in the COTUS that the Representative is supposed to represent the people in their district?

Maybe you should move to a state that is dominated by Democrats and you'll feel better about life.

Mary E Petty
Sandy, UT

Lane Myer

Our elected representatives do represent the whole of their districts, whether or not the whole agree with their votes all of the time. No US Congressman is ever in 100% agreement with their constituency, but they still represent their district.

Our Representatives have taken an oath to sustain and defend the US Constitution. I vote for the man or woman who I think will do this best for me and my district. Sometimes I am happy and sometimes I am disappointed, but I am grateful that we have Congressional elections every two years so the voice of the people have a thumbs up or thumbs down vote on renewing our Representatives elected status. May our Congressmen never forget they are only an election away from a return to private life.

What makes sense to me is working and living in a community that holds my values and understanding of the Constitution. And then joining together with my like-minded neighbors to elect a representative who supports and will work for this within the Constitutional framework.

I've been involved in my community for over 50 years and win or loose, every election that is what I do.

Farmington, UT

All that was needed to drive this effort legally behind closed doors was the potential of a lawsuit, which was quickly threatened last week by the minority party.

I'll leave it to you to determine if that was a wise thing to say.....or not.

Salt Lake City, Utah


I agree with you especially the part about working within the constitutional framework. Our founding fathers created a system where the work of the legislature was to be done in the chambers of their respective houses in full view of the people. There is nothing in the constitution that calls for political parties and caucuses. There is certainly nothing in the constitution that calls for decisions to be made in a caucus and then brought out for a show vote because you have a super majority. The founders thought debate and disagreement was healthy and would lead to decisions that would best serve constituents.

Creating the caucus system in way that was not expressly prohibited by the founding fathers in not illegal, but using it to prevent the public from seeing issues debated was certainly not what the founding fathers had in mind. If the Utah republican legislators truly cared about the constitution, they would honor its intent.

Salt Lake City, Utah

bring the process into the light of the public eye.

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