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Published: Thursday, Oct. 13 2011 2:37 p.m. MDT

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Clarissa
Layton, UT

Better get a good education if you want these jobs. An education always pays off in the long run.

Ronald Fox
North Salt Lake, UT

Way to go Governor Herbert and the GOED Team!

CHS 85
Sandy, UT

"It'll be mainly high-end computer science, electrical engineering, math and science (positions),"

"The average salary will be $41,000 per year..."

I don't want to rain on anyone's parade here, but high-end computer science, electrical engineering, math and science positions require advanced education. The average salary will be $41K per year??????? Really?

In a report published by Georgetown University in 2009, the annual average salary for these types of positions nationwide is $98K per year.

kanaka818
West Hills, CA

CHS 85:

Read the second paragraph of the article again. The last sentence clearly states: "The new jobs will pay up to 200 percent of the average Salt Lake County wage of $41,000." In other words, up to $82,000!

MyChildrensKeeper
Taylorsville, UT

What is 125% if wages? How much is that, in the Utah labor market? Minimum wages should be 200% of current depressing era earnings to have any meaning as a job or incomes. I love how this GOED can call a minimum wage job good for the economy, but that's how politics works, deception.

So what does education have to do with poverty? Education and poverty is the way of life in Utah. You do not need 2 high schools degrees to get a job for minimum wages but in Utah they try and make you feel better if you do have an education but can't find a job. It's very doubtful that education will be required for low income jobs, however not knowing english may help.

This should be good news for our depressed housing market and its #6 rating as one of the worst economies in the nation.

Penguin Inc.
Salt Lake City, Utah

This is terrific news! I'm thrilled about these new opportunities!

carman
Wasatch Front, UT

Wow. Some of the posters on the DesNews site could use classes in reading comprehension. Maybe an education would help them get some of these new jobs.

Seriously, however, Utah needs to get serious about raising elementary and secondary school standards. We just moved here from out of state, and I can tell you that math and science in our middle schools and high schools here in Utah are woefully lacking. Based on my experience, my bet is that when adjusted for demographics, Utah is likely UNDERPERFORMING in these key subjects. To emphasize, my guess is we are BELOW average. And my children are in some of the so-called best public schools in the state. I would hate to see what the average or bottom-tier schools are like in math and science.

We have too many young, inexperienced teachers, too low of salaries to keep good teachers from moving into administration or out of teaching, and we have WAY too large of classes to effectively prepare the average student in this more difficult subject.

If we don't invest more wisely now, we will pay a huge price down the road.

Truthseeker
SLO, CA

Jobs are good.

So, am I getting this straight? Home Depot is getting a "tax holiday" of $521k? And Lifetime Products a $3bilbo lion tax holiday?

Please correct me if I'm wrong.

But this is how it works. Companies, which use resources-- land, roads etc. are granted tax holidays so that they don't contribute back for using those resources. Then (not targeting Home Depot or Lifetime) they pay low wages and take all the profits for themselves for their outrageous CEO bonuses, salaries and pensions.

The same happens for sports. Taxpayers pay for the venues and the owners collect the money. And we tell ourselves it's good because of all the jobs they create. Well, just don't believe them when they say tax rates and regulation are why there aren't more jobs. Wage rates are the primary driver of jobs going overseas.

Truthseeker
SLO, CA

Correction: $3.2 million tax holiday

Ms Molli
Bountiful, Utah

@ Carman, You are always going to find young and inexperienced teachers in Utah. There is a plethora of female Utah college graduates, graduating with teaching credentials, but really attended for the "Mrs." degree. They will teach a few years until they start having their family. You are really seeing the "free market" at work in Utah in this field. Unfortunately it is the children who are paying for this.

carman
Wasatch Front, UT

To Ms Molli:

Unfortunately, we are NOT seeing the free market at work in Utah. If we did, we could make some real changes. For example, if my local high school could pay a $20,000 premium for good math and science teachers, and give the best of those a $10-20K bonus based on performance, that would be a free market. But the monster-sized school districts which span demographics that prefer updated gym and weight-lifting facilites and new buildings over better teaching and smaller classrooms, combined with teachers' union contracts, tax policies, etc. preclude a free market from emerging.

We need to get away from one-size-fits-all education, huge classes, 27 year old teachers if we are going to compete in the 21st century.

Jhugens
Atlanta, GA

Molli,

I second your comment. Until we make teaching a profession where people don't get in with a 5 or 10 year and out plan (Mrs degree) to get out we won't have a long-term boost in teaching quality.

If a woman decides to become a lawyer, doctor, or even a truck driver she isn't planning on doing that profession for just a few years, and then settling down for the next 20-30 to raise a family. I have no problem with women focusing on mothering, but I do have a problem with people juking and faking their way through a profession and then leaving; this is especially true is a field as vital and important as teaching. In my opinion teachers should be paid tax free, but if they fail to complete a 10 year period of teaching they would have to pay all of those taxes back.

Fred44
Salt Lake City, Utah

Is this like President Obama's stimulus program that so many republicans complain about? A 3.2 million dollar tax break for a company to produce 40 jobs. That is about an $800,000 tax break for each job created. I know initially in the article we are led to believe it is more jobs, but here is the quote that should be most important. "The company plans to hire about 40 workers for engineering and technical support positions over the next year. The rest will be hired as needed over the next decade". Workers as needed could be zero or 10,000 who knows, but all they have guaranteed is 40.

SLars
Provo, UT

6 million dollars for 1200 jobs? It's like paying your bills with a credit card and believing you are a great money manager. The money will have to be made up by the taxpayers in the future.

One of the companies new employee numbers was spread over 10 years. More like 950 jobs.

Transaction7
Commerce, Texas

Math isn't my talent, but, by my quick calculations, this is a much better return than any of the Obama Administration's job programs or proposals.
What does concern me a bit is that all of these new jobs required substantial taxpayer subsidies that, if I were there, my small office might not get. Here in Texas, there is disturbing evidence that the economic development money controlled bgy Governor Perry went to campaign contributors and other cronies.

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