UW fan here. Steve Jarvis has it right. There was nothing remotely negative in
the article...it almost was a backhanded complement. The Utes are
fixable...nothing in here about inferior athleticism BLAH BLAH, no, you guys
were expected to be competitive. The reason you've blown it to this point is
from self induced errors. Last year my Dawgs were 3 and 6 with 3 horrible blow
out losses in a row. We ended up winning all the rest and smacked Nebraska in
the Holiday Bowl to launch us into this season. You can do it too...10 win
seasons are rare for anyone in the PAC-12.
Ducky, anti, Jake, et al:Yeah, we're embarrassed. But you guys
REALLY know embarrassment, to wit:1) Realizing your QB and coach
talked about national championships only to whip up the season ticket sales;2) Getting dropped at home like a bad habit by your rival on nat'l TV;3)
Seeing St. Jake get yanked for a long-haired, wild-armed QB you stole from
Logan;4) Having to rally to beat the WAC/C-USA bottom-feeders on national
TV; 5) Watching your coach dither over QB's, Part II;6) Deciding
whether to watch the rest of your WAC/Big Sky home schedule, or reruns on
TVLand, or rake leaves; and7) Knowing the BCS leagues want you like they
want a root canal.I'll take the PAC-12 grind any day.
How can two comments from the same person be so strikingly different? Yes, I
agree that watching the CU I enjoyed in the 90's become the CU of the 00's and
beyond has been disheartening. With the success the Utes have had in general on
the grid iron for the past decade plus there were expectations that said success
would continue into conference play. So to see them go from plus 9 to minus one
in turnover margin and also 0-3 in conference play has been very disappointing.
While it is a compliment to say what was said about CU and Utah it is also a
back handed slap right in the face. Saying very kindly that we thought you were
better than you actually are. You were supposed to be the offset to getting a
new doormat to the pack. Won't it be a pity if it is a decade before 2-0 in BCS
bowls even has a chance to become 2-1 or 3-0?????? It looks like the mentality
of the futile years never went away... I've got news for you. If you are only in
the business to beat BYU drop football!
cowboy99 | 10:44 a.m. Oct. 10, 2011 South Jordan, UTOuch!
Buyers remorse from the conference of Champions.----------The same feeling ESPN has, I guess.All that money and all that
exposure, only to have BYU show up in a coma on national TV every week.Not only does ESPN have buyers remorse... but they want BYU to start paying
Portland Trail Blazers | 6:42 p.m. Oct. 10, 2011 He pretty much said
that CU and Wazzou are having more success or equal to Utah.----------------He only said that if you're a hater looking for
ammunition.Let's take a peek:---"It has to
encourage the Cougars that they played UCLA to the nub. It has to kill them that
they didn't win."The guy never mentioned Utah. But if you're
hate-filled, you make the connection yourself.---"The Buffs
(1-5) are having about as much success in their new league as Utah, but their
growing pains were expected."Again, haters will interpret this
as "Colorado has an excuse to lose, Utah doesn't." But as usual,
they'd be wrong.In fact, this remark is actually a complement to the
Utes. He says Colorado was expected to struggle because they've already been a
bad team in a BCS conference... they're unfamiliar with the Pac 12... and
they're breaking in a new coach.Utah wasn't "expected" to
have growing pains because most experts believed that Utah was already a good
enough team to compete at the BCS level. Thus, their current struggles come as a
surprise to many.
Sadly, it seems some people FAILED to read the article. The mistake waiting to
happen is the errant pass or wayward ball fumbled on the ground. Utah's offense
if on the field long enough has turned the ball over to negate the once stellar
turn over margin.There was nothing in the article about buyer's
remorse. I am absolutley certain they are happy to have the Utes just to get to
12, have a championship game and line hte coffers. It is not about winning. It
is about money. The Utes helped make the Pac 12 wealthier.
So much obsession with Utah. But it's no surprise to Ute fans. When you're the
envy of the state, you draw everyone's ire.We forgive you, Y trolls
(Ducky inparticular)... we understand that your program is in complete turmoil
right now. No conference in their right mind wants your team. Your head coach is
the leader of a staff riddled with incompetence. Your team roster is pretty much
the same. No quarterbacks with any talent. No running game to speak of. No hope
for BCS membership... although that's deservedly so, seeing as how the Y has
never even had a whiff of a BCS bowl. Gotta walk before you can run.It's important that you know we forgive you. We... your wiser,
BCS-credentialed, wealthier big brothers. Keep playing Idaho State and San Jose
State and New Mexico State. Maybe one of these years you can put a string of 12
straight wins together, and maybe one of the important bowls will ask you to
play. Until then, however, stop the Big 12 talk. You have no
business in a BCS league when you haven't even come close to playing in a BCS
bowl.Sincerely,The BCS Utes
Duck, embarrassing would be 54-10
I think this officially makes the Utes a doormat of the Pac 12. He pretty much
said that CU and Wazzou are having more success or equal to Utah."yeah i'm a ute fan and i think the utes are still going to the rose
bowl. i think this cuz im narrow minded and i know everything revolves around
utah.and yes i applied to byu and didnt get in, thats why im at utah haha."
LOL - Duckhunter finally emerges from his swamp. We all knew it was only a
matter of time before started feeling safe enough to spew his hate.
anti -Embarrassing is being a troll whose team got beat by 44 by the
very team he is trying to make fun of. Embarrassing is your travel
time from your seat in LES to the parking lot in the 3rd quarter after your team
was receiving a 44 point beatdown.
UteologyEmbarrassing is claiming you'll be smelling roses in August
and then going winless in the "conference of champions".
Turnovers aren't unique to the Utes. The Texas Longhorns also had 5 turnovers
and lost to Oklahoma 55-17. Hmmmm... Utah only lost 35-14. From what I learned
in Cougar Math Class, that makes Utah 20 points better than the Longhorns.
I agree with KW, we'll start winning when we stop turning the ball over.@DuckyEmbarrassing is talking about how your playing for a
national championship in August only to find out you've been punked.
Funny to see comments from the traditional BYU folks on a Utah article. A little
obsessed with what your Daddy's doing?On a different note, I'd rather Utah
lose to a full slate of Pac 12 opponents then beat a bunch of teams nobody cares
about (See BYU schedule for an example).
Considering how flat the Utes have come out against both opponents you could say
that. At the same time this wasnt a surprise, Utah has to transtion into a
conference that has better athletes and fields better teams then they are
obviously used to. I mean UNLV and New Mexico dont have the strongest of
programs. I think they can finish the year with 7 wins, which I consider good
for a team that really doesnt have all the depth they need this year. Whitt is
still the best coach in the state. The team needs to accept this year as a
growing year.@Duck Man you have no room to talk, if Utah is an
embaressment in your eyes what does that say about the y? Keep hating my friend
its good for us Ute fans to have a local troll. If we didnt who would we have to
when you make turnovers it masks how good of a team you really have.....stupid
mistakes can kill a season.....just ask Utah and BYU!
Re Urban - my initial reaction: Hmm, he said the same thing about Florida.
Funny Duckhunter, I thought the same thing about you.
Ha ha, that's rich considering the Seattle Times covers a Pac-12 team that went
0-12 (Washington) a few years ago, and another that won three games combined in
2009 and 2010 (Washington St.). Who wants to bet the Seattle Times wasn't
calling those two teams "mistakes waiting to happen" after
experiencing some difficult years?
@ianius. "...we have not beat a decent team this year!" And WON'T.
That's keeping the faith!
This will be a hard, but worth it, transition to the PAC 12 conference....we
have not beat a decent team this year!Keep the faith!Go
This is really embarrassing for our state.
Ouch! Buyers remorse from the conference of Champions.