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Published: Tuesday, Oct. 4 2011 12:21 a.m. MDT

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ClarkKent
Bountiful, Utah

Is the City offering any other developers (other than the LDS church) property at below market rates in an attempt to speed up downtown development?

Thidder
MAPLETON, UT

This is great news. Just wondering, based on location, will this be a predominantly Spanish speaking temple? I sure hope so in behalf of all of us.

Kyle loves BYU/Jazz
Provo, UT

re: ClarkKent

Yeah I'm sure the property next to the rundown travelodge motel and a dumpy restaurant is a hot commodity that so many people were after.

I'm glad the church is building a temple there and it will help all of downtown Provo a lot. There isn't much of a reason for most people to go there. In the future there will be.

Cats
Somewhere in Time, UT

I'm just grateful they're saving the tabernacle and making it even better. It will also do a lot for downtown Provo just as Temples upgrade the area everywhere.

UVWhiteKnight
PROVO, UT

The Provo Tabernacle was a place where non-mormons, jack-mormons, ex-mormons, and active mormons were all welcome. Instead of that cultural breadth and unifying presence in the community, the Provo Tabernacle will now proclaim on city's Main Street: Only Active Mormons Wanted (In Provo, by association). A beautiful building that says look but don't touch, unless you are the "right" type, an exclusive club.

ChrisNSuz
Salt Lake City, UT

So "UVWhiteKnight", if you don't mind, I would like to make sure that we can all still come over and use your house on Sunday to watch the football games and raid your fridge. You know you wouldn't want to be a hypocrite about this would you? Your home and property aren't just for the "right type" and an "exclusive club" for people who share your DNA. No? Well until I can prop my feet up on your coffee table and dominate your remote, why don't you mind your own business about what others do with their property,... hmmmm?

Ben H
Clearfield, UT

After seeing how well this has worked for Ogden, I don't think that I would be too excited about the potential for development around the new temple. The church has stepped in and purchased the property around the temple and sold it for a loss, and in some cases, it still has not worked very well.

bluecoug89
Highland, UT

I know that there are many people who think that this won't work and are worried about it. For those people I can assure you that the Lord's hand is in this and revelation was received by the prophet about it. If the Lord is in this, why worry?

UVWhiteKnight
PROVO, UT

Indeed, ChrisNSuz, I often open my home to strangers, most usually friends of friends, but nevertheless. Please just try to expand your minds narrow horizons, and see the loss of the Tabernacle as I do. The temple will be a beautiful building with nice, well kept grounds, I look forward to that, but it will not have the same flavor as before.

Another factor is that if this property was sold at below cost and without public notification(sentiment would have been overwhelming, but I digress), whoever signed off for it needs to be reprimanded or sacked if an elected official. Public Property ought not be dispensed so easily, though a history of Provo reads with multiple events of similar corruption( the Seven Peaks "Ski Resort", the sale of water rights to SL to buy a one term senator, etc).

Ben H, that is a interesting thought, any specific sources?

parrothead
orem, ut

I'm estatic the LDS church is going to rebuild the Tabernacle to it's somewhat previous state, hopefully I can atleast see the inside before dedication. It's alot better than a NUSKIN building addition, but not as good as a place of worship that everyone can enter :}

snowman
Provo, UT

Thidder: Utah is an english only state

Oryssman
FORT COLLINS, CO

ChrisNSuz writes,

No? Well until I can prop my feet up on your coffee table and dominate your remote, why don't you mind your own business about what others do with their property,... hmmmm?

Orin Ryssman replies,

This is as ungracious a remark as I have heard and reflects a lack of appreciation for not just the original structure (a tabernacle for those of the LDS faith to meet) but for what the structure has become, a place for community events where all are allowed to attend. There are plenty of structures for the LDS to meet in and congregate yet few of the size or stature of the Provo Tabernacle that bring the community together, LDS and others.

Buzzards
LEHI, UT

Ben H: I hate to break this to you, but Provo is not Ogden. Nothing against our friends in Weber county, but the demographics are different, the economies are different, need I go on?
This will change downtown Provo in ways we cannot currently imagine.

CG
Orem, UT

UVWhiteKnight

People who choose to be offended will always find something to offend them.

Collin Card
Provo, Utah

Now if only someone could buy the ugly NuSkin building that does not fit in in any way to the beautifully restored downtown and tear it down!

Schwa
South Jordan, UT

I noticed the artist drawing left the Nu Skin building out entirely.

Ricardo Carvalho
Provo, UT

UVWhiteKnight, I don't find that the smoke shop or bar suits the needs of 80 of Provo's citizenry. There are many people who don't enjoy the arts so the Covey Center is out. The bicycle shop does not cater to the needs of the disabled or infirm aged. Etc... It is ok to have multiple buildings, businesses that reach out to diverse populations in a downtown area. Not every part of a downtown will appeal to every citizen. While I understand you may have preferred the tabernacle to be open to all, it will still suit the needs of many and will do a great deal to enhance the vitality of downtown Provo. Your arguments come across more as a bitter jab against the majority than a well-reasoned argument against a "terrible" decision. I am a newcomer to town having lived in places where various peoples come together. I have been pleased to welcome the announcement of a new mosque as well as a new Hindu temple. I found joy in their happiness and could celebrate with my friends of different viewpoints. I wish the same for you.

Cats
Somewhere in Time, UT

Dear Collin Card: You are absolutely right. The NuSkin building does absolutely nothing for downtown Provo and was built using federal grants. It's ugly and is completely out of place there.

and...UVWhiteKnight: ANYONE can enter a Temple. All they have to do is live the standards, get a recomment and go. No one is excluded if they only choose the right path. CG is right. Anyone who chooses to be offended will always find a way to be offended. It is always based on personal choice.

Rifleman
Salt Lake City, Utah

Re: UVWhiteKnight | 6:14 p.m. Oct. 3, 2011
"Provo Tabernacle will now proclaim on city's Main Street: Only Active Mormons Wanted"

That same false argument was made about the Main Street Plaza in Salt Lake City. In reality people of all faiths go there to enjoy the beauty and peace it provides.

Likewise Provo will benefit financially from the construction of this new temple. Property values will go up, and businesses will benefit from out of town visitors. It is a win-win for Prove and it's citizens.

Bluto
Sandy, UT

Provo City made a big mistake by not completely preserving their Historic Main Street as Park city did. Blending 19th and early 20th century architecture with the 21st Century, rarely works too well. There is still enough to be preserved, but a few things need to take place.

NuSkins building needs a new shell. Strip off the black glass and re-do with brick, stone and limited glass. Much as the Zions Bank building was re-done in SLC. However, use more natural materials than they used.

The Marriott needs a similiar overhaul. Stucko? C'mon now.

The Convention Center is fine, I suppose, as it is at least set back abit from Main Street, although old structures were still razed.

Save what is left, and develop some protocols in order to preserve Provo's Main Street charm.

Also, perhaps the Nuskin parking Garage can be raised and placed underground in conjunction with the new Temple parking. This area should be landscaped as well.

Ideally, it would be aesthetically more pleasing if the street just south of the Tabernacle was closed and conjoined with the block to the south to create large landscaped grounds (plaza). As it was originally.

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