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Published: Saturday, Oct. 1 2011 3:41 p.m. MDT

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@Charles
the greater outdoors, UT

To the uber-Progressive Mormons on these threads who promote redistribution of wealth --- I think Pres Uchtdorf put and end to that philosophy in Priesthood Meeting tonight.

I can't wait to see how people like LDS Lib, MormonDem, Christy and the others who support the stealing from one to give to another spin the eternal truths taught by Pres. Uchtdorf.

Socialism/Communism is of the devil, not Christ.

Gotta love it when true doctrines are taught. I guess we will see who follows the Lord's anointed, right Senator Reid?!

higv
Dietrich, ID

Free Agency is not in the scriptures. As for Abortion laws are here to protect people. There is no free agency for the people involved. Did God give us the right to do evil? Are laws against Shoplifting infringing on agency?

As for Health Care part of charity is willingly doing it. There is no benefit in forced charity. Violates the 10th commandment. That is why most LDS peole are Republicans. Very charitable with there property. Not there neighbors.

Truthseeker
SLO, CA

Re:Rantbully
Perhaps you could give us an example of a country which doesn't have social safety nets that you wouldn't mind living in.

The LDS church has a welfare system for active members so apparently it makes allowances for those who aren't "self-reliant."

The LDS church doesn't endorse a political party.

RantBully
Bend, OR

Re: Truthseeker,

Churches and non-profit organizations do a better job at sustaining the needs of the poor than does the government while teaching self-reliance. While the Church does not endorse a political party, members of the Church gravitate to the party that better represents the positive fruitful values endorsed by the Church.

On the other hand
Spanish Fork, UT

@RantBully, having a Republican explain what Democrats believe can be likened to an evangelical minister teaching his or her congregation about Mormonism.

rich_rogers
SANDY, UT

I get along with my local Democrat friends, and for the most part we want the same things, we just have different ways of wanting them. But my biggest problem is with the Democratic national party platform and they're pro-abortion stance. (Please don't give me that "It's pro-choice" nonsense. If the Democrats on a national level we're truly pro-choice they'd have no problem with women seeking abortions getting both pro and con information on the subject and then allowing them time to study it and think it over. They don't. They constantly fight it.) My other problems with problems Dems on the national level is how they think the government is the answer to all problems. The only way that can happen is if they tax us all to death to pay for everything they want the government to provide. As the saying goes--"The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen." So for those reasons, you won't find this LDS member joining the Democratic party. I will admit to voting Dem in local elections to trying to create a greater parity on Utah's Capitol Hill.

Less Is More
Ogden, UT

"So many people in the Church forgot about that pesky little free agency thing."

There is so much more to the abortion issue than the mother's use of free agency. It's a moral issue about protecting the right of the unborn child. Using your logic, does murder or other criminal behavior become ok simply because it is an expression of free agency?

It's about protecting the child!

FDRfan
safety dictates, ID

Rifleman | 4:53 p.m. Oct. 1, 2011
Salt Lake City, Utah
As long as the Democrats want to prevent South Carolina from building Boeing aircraft because it is a right to work state, and as long as abortion is a plank in their platform the majority of Utahns will vote against them.

Are you aware of the Republican plank of no abortion period. Mitt Romney's position is considered pro abortion. Do you want to criminalize a doctor's and family's choice to save the life of the mother whenever the choice has to be made? Do you want to criminalize a family whose 13 year old daughter was gang raped? Better read your Republican plank.

AaronM
OREM, UT

To 4th Generation--for your information, I was not born and raised here in Utah. I grew up in Idaho, near Boise, in a predominantly non-LDS environment! And I have lived in other states besides Utah and Idaho! In fact, I am more more conservative than most Utahns. And I am NOT a member of the Tea Party!

I grew up on a family farm--no 40-hour work week there! And yes, I worked out in the fields, especially if I wanted to eat at my parent's house!

Unions don't create jobs--businesses do! Unions don't pay taxes--businesses and people do!

And, since I was adopted, I am very, VERY against abortion! It always amazes me that everybody who is FOR abortion is already alive!

As for Harry Reid--I am not saying anything about him as a member! But as for being a senator, he is a joke! Plenty of bad Republicans in Washington, too--but NO good Democrats!

I am not saying that you can't be a Democrat and be a member of the church--I just don't see how!

Less Is More
Ogden, UT

Democrats continue to overstep their bounds and infringe on the individual's need to be self-reliant. Their answer to everything is for the Federal Gov't to solve the problem. However, the Republicans seem to talk about self-reliance but don't tend to put their money where their mouth is.

Rifleman
Salt Lake City, Utah

Re: isrred | 6:43 p.m. Oct. 1, 2011
"Utah's Democrat in Congress voted against the legislation that would have closed that plant. So your point is...well, you don't have a point."

The voters in South Carolina have a point and they will express it at the ballot box in 2012. Democratic strategist James Carville has just one word of advice for President Barack Obama: Panic. Now why would he say a thing like that?

FDRfan
safety dictates, ID

one old man | 4:50 p.m. Oct. 1, 2011
Ogden, UT

Years back it was the John Birch Society. Please don't let that drive you out of the Church. President Faust was a Democrat and there are many others. Anyone discussing these things in Church meetings is disobeying the Church's positions on neutrality.

TwoBitsWorth
Salt Lake City, UT

After living in the East for some years, I saw the hazard of one party having an unbalanced majority, and the resultant elimination of adequate checks and balances. I admit that I am a Republican, but at the same time I see the hazards of one party being able to have its own way no matter what.

I welcome the efforts of the Democratic Party to expand their numbers with the hope that a more even balance of power will help to eliminate the danger of having too much power in any one political party, regardless of whether that party be Democrat or Republican.

Democrat
Provo, UT

People need to remember that a political "party" is just that a party. A party is not an ideology but a group of people. Some Republicans are pro-choice and pro-gay marriage. Some Democrats are hawkish and pro-war.

While I believe parties have their place, I vote for the person, not the party. I have seen the more conservative candidate lose in Utah because of party affiliation...that shows that people (at least in some areas) are not really studying the candidates.

Cowboy Joe
Encampment, WY

Aaron, have you ever heard of president Faust? He was a democrat must not a been a good LDS person though. Your statements are over reaching and wrong. I'm a republican but I vote democrat also. You can be from any party and be a member of this church. Joseph Smith described God's characteristics of being liberal. He gives freely to all. Close mindedness is a dangerous path to be on Aaron

RantBully
Bend, OR

Re: On the other hand

Following your logic, no one can know what the Mormon church believes until they join it. Similarly following this logic, I would not be able to understand the Democratic party until I join it. That is absurd. Are you saying I have misrepresented the Democratic party's views on big government and creating a handout welfare dependent nation? I do know that the LDS church has a lesson on self-reliance. The LDS church's welfare program functions on the principle of developing self-reliance. That is definitely more conservative than liberal, and more in-line with the principles valued by the Republican party. "By their fruits ye shall know them."

Justmythoughts
Richfield, UT

There is definately room in the church for both Republicans and Democrats...lighten up people. Our system is the best in the world...and debate over issues is a good thing. Neither side is ever entirely correct.

TRUTH
Salt Lake City, UT

Democratic LDS.....now there is an oxymoron!

Abortion
Communism
Al Sharton
Big govt

The democratic party is perfect for you ife the Govt is smarter about spending your money than you are.........drink up obamaholics

TRUTH
Salt Lake City, UT

Democratic LDS.....now there is an oxymoron!

Abortion
Communism
Al Sharton
Big govt

The democratic party is perfect for you ife the Govt is smarter about spending your money than you are.........drink up obamaholics

TRUTH
Salt Lake City, UT

To embrace democratic ideals soon we would have gays getting married in the temple........blasphemy

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