Blue roundup: Could BYU, Boise State join Big 12?


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  • BCS Busters BOISE, ID
    Sept. 29, 2011 7:03 p.m.


    Please educate yourself.

    Bsu has added 53 million in recent improvements. Sky Boxes, Indoor practice facility. Within 24 months, 108 million on Coaches, training, Locker complex and 23000 seats, bringing total to 55000. Construction in 3 phases, starting as soon as season ends.
    Crappy baseball? Nice one! BSU doesn't have baseball.
    Perhaps you are also unaware they are the PAC12 wrestling champs 3 of last 4 years? Also unaware Women sports have competed in Nat Finals in Golf, Tennis, Volleyball? Guess not.
    TV? Guess you didn't know BSU's ESPN draw is tops in the nation. The VT game was 2nd ONLY to the Nat Champ Game.

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    Sept. 29, 2011 5:49 p.m.

    BYU maybe - not Boise. Boise has a good football program .. for now . Boise has a crappy basketball, baseball, track , etc.... Boise has lack luster facilities as well and no one follows them in Texas. BYU has a BIG following everywhere they play and they have first rate facilities. Big difference.

  • BCS Busters BOISE, ID
    Sept. 29, 2011 5:22 p.m.

    I find it amusing how some posters here do their best to elevate Utah/BYU football at or above BSU's level. Let me reming you, please, since BSU entered D1 football, The Broncos are undefeated in 6 contests with the 2 schools, Utah has lost at home, 36=3, 31-28, and on the Blue 26-20. Plus The Vegas Bowl last year, a mismatch. BYU Lost 28-27 on the Blue and 50-12 in Provo.
    Knocj The MWC all you want, but just remember BSU is 7-1 vs the BEST the conference had to offer in Utah, BYU, and TCU.
    Other sports, yes we lack in Basketball..thats why we hire Gonzagas Head Assistant. Already he has improved the schedule and out recruiting has turned a corner. Take note BSU has won the PAC12 Wrestling Championship 3 of the last 4 years. Womens sports have competed in the National Tournaments and are on an upswing as well.
    Facilies? 53 MIL in Improvments and capacity to 55000 in 2 years.
    Same thrust in academics.
    Looking forward to the BYU Series, we wish everyone the best.
    For just 35 years a 4yr school, were on the move up.

    Sept. 29, 2011 2:30 p.m.

    "Sorry BYU, T. Boone Pickens gave another speech last night ruling the Cougars out of the expansion plan."

    When DeLoss Dodds and President Boren start saying anything other than BYU is less than "high priority expansion target" (not my words, see the Austin American Statesman), I will agree that BYU is not in the plans.

    Who is T. Boone Pickens? If he's not in the administrations associated with Texas or Oklahoma he is basically a non-voice in this matter.

    Sept. 29, 2011 2:25 p.m.

    "Doesn't sound like either are going to the Big12.

    BYU and Boise just signed a 12 year deal to play each other.
    (google it and look at recent news)."

    Perhaps you should read the contract, Rico.

    There is a provision in the contract specifically stating that BYU cannot buy the game out if they are to join a conference with at least four AQ teams.

    There is another paragraph regarding the six months in the making this deal was.

    In other words, there is no relation between the two events.

  • Henry Drummond San Jose, CA
    Sept. 29, 2011 1:14 p.m.

    Sorry BYU, T. Boone Pickens gave another speech last night ruling the Cougars out of the expansion plan.

  • Razzle2 Bluffdale, UT
    Sept. 29, 2011 12:10 p.m.

    AZCOUG10 - "These forums only prove that there are not really any Utah fans...just anti-BYU fans."

    You just stepped down to their level with this bias statement. There are sports fans for BYU and Utah; and there are anti-fans for both schools. But that doesn't make an ignorant anti-BYU fan into a Utah fan or visa versa.

  • HighlandsHome Highland, Utah
    Sept. 29, 2011 11:00 a.m.

    This never ending restating of the possibility of BYU joining the Big 12 reminds me of the ongoing Chevy Chase SNL gag: "Generalissimo Francisco Franco is still dead."
    Why don't we take a little break from this "story" until there is actually something to report?

  • AZCoug10 Queen Creek, AZ
    Sept. 29, 2011 10:17 a.m.

    These forums only prove that there are not really any Utah fans...just anti-BYU fans. I am glad to see BYU moving forward with Boise St. I see them as our new rival and the BYU-Utah game going away. Over time, Utah will fall into obscurity while BYU rises to greatness. Without BYU, what does Utah really stand for?? Where do they fit in?? Even Ute fans don't know. They will be similar to Lex Luther without Superman on his schedule...meaningless. When BYU doesn't give them something to compare themselves to year in and year out, they will shrivel up and die. Yes, our offense is currently pathetic and Utah beat us this year, but every program has their ups and downs. Overall, I am tired of Utah's arrogance. It is time to cut them off just as we would a parasite that has grown too annoying. Enjoy your game with Colorado each year Ute fan. We are now leaving you to wallow by yourselves!!

  • Brent T. Aurora CO Aurora, CO
    Sept. 29, 2011 10:08 a.m.

    Looks like the former Big 12 is aiming towards becoming the Big XVI -- adding not only BYU and Boise State, but also TCU (who due to changes in the Big East, who will end up a basketball conference), Air Force and Notre Dame.

  • poyman Lincoln City, OR
    Sept. 29, 2011 1:16 a.m.

    BSU has a great Football Program, But that's where it starts and ends.Their Academics is comparatively week and they are unhears of in all other sports.... Add to that the fact that their facilities are questionable, they may soon be on NCAA Probation and that the Boise Televion Market is small and I think that youthat end up with a tough pill for BSU fans to swallow.... The Big 12 would be foolish to consider them before the AFA, TCU, Louisville and WVU....

    For what it's worth, I think that BYU gets invited for 2012, and WVU and Louisville get invites for 2013.... If Missou bolts, then I think TCU could end up with an invite....

    The sad part about all of this is that if Thompson were a stronger Commish I believe we could have held the old MWC together, added BSU and Nevada and possibly FSU, had a Championship game and been AQ branded next year....

    We needed a Commish that would have taken on the TV rights issue, and buddied up better with other AQ Conferences.... Thompson wasn't and isn't the guy and as a result we had a major blown opportunity.

  • panamadesnews Lindon, UT
    Sept. 28, 2011 11:55 p.m.

    CRB: The desperation is not BYU fans, but Utah fans coming on these BYU articles and goading BYU fans. I believe that they are afraid that if BYU gets an invite to the Big 12, they will worry that BYU's situation will be better than theirs. It is pure jealousy, which is what you accuse BYU fans of having. No. Utah fans are jealous of what might happen. BYU will be fine whether or not they receive an invite. Most fans are content with that, but are concerned about their team being able to win, which is what they should be concerned about. Give it up, Ute trolls. We do not know who has offerred what. Let us wait to see what happens.

  • panamadesnews Lindon, UT
    Sept. 28, 2011 11:31 p.m.

    Pac12Proud: You are only talking about a few fans on these articles. The majority of BYU fans just want to watch BYU games and are not overly concerned whether BYU is independent or in a conference. We all know that our situation is much better than it was in the MWC and their terrible tv contract. Get over it.

  • Resolute Voice Deseret, UT
    Sept. 28, 2011 10:02 p.m.

    BSU has nothing to offer. Name your reason, but football is not enough to carry the day. No record of national or world academic achievement or breakthroughs, low national rankings in business and engineering schools, poor performance in the "Olympic" sports, weak tv market, prohibitive travel costs, etc... BSU is just a name in the wind. I am not certain that BYU is not just a name in the wind.

  • rok San Diego, CA
    Sept. 28, 2011 9:56 p.m.

    I say BYU should gladly accept an invite if extended, but if they have to travel across the Mississippi to Louisville and West Virginia, that's a bit too far. It would probably be the biggest geographic conference, except maybe the WAC with Hawaii.

  • Commontater Lehi, UT
    Sept. 28, 2011 9:36 p.m.

    Do you have any idea why you made a comment on a BYU article? You want the BYU fans to leave you alone? Are you suffering a complex? If you hadn't commented I sure wouldn't be wasting my time posting this. Isn't Utah and the PAC-12 good enough for you to comment on their articles? Not one BYU fan would even know you existed if you wouldn't post on a BYU article. Just saying!

  • toosmartforyou Farmington, UT
    Sept. 28, 2011 9:12 p.m.

    @ Naval Vet

    Utah PAC 12 victories = 0

    Utah National Championships = 0

    Utah BCS National Chamionship appearances = 0

    So just how great are those Utes? (Ego's excepted of course.)

    So rag on about BYU. Your bias is showing.

    (How did Utah do against BSU? At least the Y missed a field goal in Boise that would have provided a victory, just like the Utes achieved last year and were 'lucky' to do that.)

    My favorite recent Utah score = UNLV 27 - Utah 0. When asked why his team lost Whittingham said "I don't know." He is a truthful person.

  • smart_aleck VANCOUVER, WA
    Sept. 28, 2011 7:52 p.m.

    Lets look at BYU joining the Big XII from a football scheduling perspective. What does BYU get? In a ten team conference, it gets nine conference games each year with regular matchups against powerhouse teams like Oklahoma and Texas. That leaves three out-of-conference games each season, two of which will always be against Utah and Utah State. That means that BYU would play the same 11 teams year-in and year-out with only one date each year to schedule an at-large opponent. Should BYU push aside scheduled dates with Notre Dame, Georgia Tech, Boise State and Hawaii to make room for conference opponents Iowa State, Baylor and Kansas?

    It may be nice to have Texas and Oklahoma guaranteed on the schedule each year, but you would give up existing and potential matchups against a variety of marquis teams. BYU should stay independent.

  • Bluto Sandy, UT
    Sept. 28, 2011 7:20 p.m.

    BYU will go "All In" or not go at all.
    Big 12 wants "Full" members.

    Best case scenario would be adding....
    BYU Air Force Louisville W. Virginia

    Northeast Division:
    Ok. State
    Kansas St.
    W. Virginia
    Iowa State

    Southwest Division:
    Texas Tech
    Air Force

    If Mizzou stays, drop WVU.

    What will BYU bring to Big 12...

    Academics-BYU will rank #3 in Conference (#71 Nationally)
    Football Stadium capacity #3, attendance #3.
    Basketball Arena Capacity #1 attendance #1 or #2
    Studenbody (size) #2
    Living Alumni #2 (400k)
    TV market, rank #32, BYU dominates this market, sorry Utah.
    A 40 year Legacy with a Marketable National Brand.

    Sorry Boise?

    Great at Football, for 10 years, not much more.
    Can't fill a 30k seat stadium.
    Academically? Get serious!
    TV Market, in the 100's

    No to Boise. BYU and Utah have paid their dues for Generations. Boise was a D-2 program just 10-15 years ago? It's as daft as UConn and S. Florida being in a BCS league, when neither one of them was D-1 even 10 years ago.

    If Boone Pickins has his way, none of these teams will be invited.

  • Jimbo49 SAGINAW, Michigan
    Sept. 28, 2011 7:17 p.m.

    BYU and Boise State would be great picks for the Big 12.

  • Uncle Rico Provo, UT
    Sept. 28, 2011 6:49 p.m.

    Doesn't sound like either are going to the Big12.

    BYU and Boise just signed a 12 year deal to play each other.
    (google it and look at recent news).

  • manutd Milford, CT
    Sept. 28, 2011 6:09 p.m.

    more comments from utes than byu fans on an article with nothing to do about the utes.

    that sounds like a lot of ego to me too.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    Sept. 28, 2011 6:04 p.m.


    "Naval Vet: Please define 'respectable media outlet'; and please think through your comments more clearly if you are going to claim affiliation to the Navy -- it's really embarrassing to the rest of us."

    Thank you. I really enjoy embarrassing cougar fans, but alas, I cannot take full credit. I had nothing to do with the performances exhibited by Bronco, Doman, Heaps, and the rest of the cougars last Sept. 17th, and neither did I about the hoards of cougar fans fleeing the stadium while still in the 3rd Qtr.

    And "respectable media outlet(s)" are professional publications [ESPN, Sports Illustrated, Rivals, Phil Steele, etc]; not cougar stories written BY cougar fans FOR cougar fans [i.e. cougarboard, DeepShadesofBlue, The Daily Universe, et al], who like to use "inside sources" and "anonymous" power brokers "close to the situation" rather than anything that can be held up to scrutiny to be verified.

  • Hawkyo SYRACUSE, UT
    Sept. 28, 2011 5:55 p.m.

    Careful Naval vet, you may live to eat those words. Definitive statements can be such a pain in the neck!

  • SLC BYU Fan Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 28, 2011 5:08 p.m.

    BYU had better get into the Big 12 or just drop big time college athletics. Independence won't work and was NEVER designed to do so.

    Sept. 28, 2011 4:51 p.m.

    For those BYU fans arguing against the "Big ego" statement made by Brave Sir Robin-
    Look at your own fan base, and then reassess about whether or not that statement is true. Think about it, you just got killed by your rival (not Utah State. That slaughter is coming on Friday) and appear to be on a downward spiral, yet you still think your team is the lord's gift to football.

  • CRB Woods Cross, UT
    Sept. 28, 2011 4:48 p.m.

    On the contrary, no school in the country has been as over the top in their desperation to become part of the BCS, either in a bowl or certainly as a member. No group of fans, no administration, no athletic department, no football team. Utah's football success and recognition in two BCS bowls (one during the quest for perfection) and now membership in the Pac 12 has only increased the measure of desperation. Of course in formal public statements the school will say they have to look at the situation, stability, terms, etc. But do not kid yourself. Independance was an escape route from a MWC that was a dead man walking and the best of the bad choices available. But it was always hoped that it would lead to more exposure and consideration in a BCS conference, any BCS conference. BYU will say what they need to say but they will take a BCS membership at whatever terms are required (except of course ones that require it to compromise on its religious standards). That is of course first and formost but the rest is a one second decision.

  • Ernest T. Bass Bountiful, UT
    Sept. 28, 2011 3:22 p.m.

    re: just-a-fan
    I know. We like are totally better than Utah fans. In a few hundred more wins, we'll match their win total and everything.

  • MR Draper, UT
    Sept. 28, 2011 2:58 p.m.

    ZZzzzzz. 'Another' speculation story? Wake me up when something actually happens. Zzzzzzz

    Sept. 28, 2011 2:33 p.m.

    I see BYU, WV, and Louisville all as likely. As much as I would love to see Boise included I don't see it happening even if Missouri leaves.

    Missouri leaving is subject to another conference wanting them. The Big 10 and SEC have publicly rejected them.

  • Jeff29 Cedar City, UT
    Sept. 28, 2011 2:28 p.m.

    1) If BYU gets a BIG 12 invite and says no or goes football only, Dave Rose will be gone (and I won't blame him a bit).

    2) @ Naval Vet: Please define "respectable media outlet"; and please think through your comments more clearly if you are going to claim affiliation to the Navy -- it's really embarrassing to the rest of us.

    3) A poster with the name of Pac12Proud making fun of BYU's "ego" -- classic (as in classic Ute logic)

  • CaliforniaCougar Lake Elsinore, CA
    Sept. 28, 2011 2:19 p.m.

    Personally, I think we have a pretty good set up with independence, West Coast Conference, ESPN, BYUtv, etc.

    BYU should call the shots in negotiating. The Big 12 is on sand. BYU is on rock. Adding Boise State, Louisville, and West Virginia with BYU would be a reason to consider the Big 12 as a strong foundation and to do it.

  • GoGetter Sandy, UT
    Sept. 28, 2011 2:05 p.m.

    More speculation?

    Why don't they just wait til it's official? I don't care to know what the DNews MIGHT think will happen.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    Sept. 28, 2011 1:58 p.m.


    "...where are all those loyal Ute basketball fans from the 1990s? Just wondering."

    And I was just wondering where were all those loyal cougar football fans going in the 3rd-Qtr at LES vs. the Utes 2-wks ago? Were 40,000 fans simultaneously headed to the concession stands for a hotdog? Why didn't they come back?

  • Mike W Syracuse, UT
    Sept. 28, 2011 1:40 p.m.

    Makes the most sense to invite West Virginia and Louisville for all sports, then invite BYU and Boise for football only... makes an excellent 12 team football conference, and avoids the BYU/sunday issue and the Boise/lack of other credible programs/travel issues/costs... 10 team basketball conference, 12 teams for football. No idea how you'd divide divisions however...probably something like the Big 10 does that is not so much based on geography. Seems TCU would be the loser in this "scenario of the day" joining a severly weakened Big East that will surely lose it's BCS birth.

  • gb13 Herriman, Utah
    Sept. 28, 2011 1:40 p.m.

    @brave sir robin. You certainly are brave in the sense of the definition . . "to defy." However, defiance and illogical (not logical or reasonable)are really not very attractive or effective characteristics - are they? Much of an oxymoron, in this case.

    However, your suggestion is probably a pretty good one - except for how it would negatively affect your team. If a SUPER-CONFERENCE were to include those teams that you mentioned, they would dominate. Watch out for what you wish for!

    Oh, excuse me, I forgot that you are brave sir robin and will defy anyone.

  • just-a-fan Bountiful, UT
    Sept. 28, 2011 1:33 p.m.

    Utah fans are a silly bunch. They are simply like the poor family on the street that won the lottery a few years ago and just don't know how to act. Before those days you could walk up to the football stadium half-way through the first quarter and get a cheap ticket. Congrats on your self-proclaimed lofty perch in the might PAC 12. Now all you have to do is win. By the way, where are all those loyal Ute basketball fans from the 1990s? Just wondering.

  • Still Blue after all these years Kaysville, UT
    Sept. 28, 2011 1:31 p.m.

    Short of a deal with ND to take both BYU and ND into the B1G (in our dreams), BYU needs to accept the Big XII offer in full (all sports) soon. Perhaps after this weekend. If they don't, then they are announcing that they've just lowered sports to the bottom of the priority list. Football will be gone soon. So lets go guys, get this done! Make Holmoe's biggest scheduling problem having to tell teams he just signed up that he must break the deal. And make Bronco's biggest problem getting his team ready to play top teams every week! may need another QB for that.

  • srh83 Hillsboro, OR
    Sept. 28, 2011 1:31 p.m.

    @ Brave Sir Robin
    "Let all these schools play each other and leave the rest of us alone"
    So, why do you have to comment on BYU articles. Sounds like you're not leaving BYU alone.

    What do the most hard-core BYU football fanatics have in common with the average Ute fan?


  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    Sept. 28, 2011 1:20 p.m.

    "...I'm reasonably confident the Y has invitation in hand."
    -- Still Blue after all these years | 11:11 a.m.

    "...I have to believe that an invitation from the Big 12 has already been extended to BYU." -- CougFaninTX | 12:58 p.m.

    Haha! Poor frantic and emotional cougs. It's got to be killing cougar fans to think they might get left behind AGAIN! Based on reports in EVERY respectable media outlet with respect to Big XII expansion...you do NOT have an invitation in hand; you have NOT been invited.

    And neither had Boise State. But I hope the Broncos do. They're a good team; consistent winners playing at a BCS-caliber level, and it showed by way of their 2 BCS bowls. The cougars....not so much. They're so very mid-majorey, and it shows by way of their ZERO BCS bowls. No wonder Boise State LEFT the WAC, while the Y tried to get back IN it!

  • Pac12Proud SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Sept. 28, 2011 1:13 p.m.

    The "Big Ego" conference is pretty funny considering the players (Texas and possibly byu).

    What's really funny to me is how excited byu fans are to jump off the 'independent' ship. Clearly, the byu collective is less than enamored with the independence idea they have been raving about for the last year. I don't know who this Wilner guy is in Central CA writing about the Big12 and byu, but if an invite doesn't pan out for cougs, your true feelings of independence have been totally exposed and will leave you terribly embarrassed.

  • AZCoug10 Queen Creek, AZ
    Sept. 28, 2011 1:10 p.m.

    I think BYU negotiating a football-only invite could make sense if they are happy to be in the WCC with the other sports. That would then make sense to add a team like Boise St as a football-only member. Then the Big 12 members wouldn't need to travel as far for all their other sports, and both BYU and Boise St would be in a BCS conference for football.

    Personally, I would like BYU to go in as a full member. But then the issue becomes who is their travel partner. Air Force is probably the best option, but if BYU goes football only, the Big 12 would rather have Boise St than Air Force. Who knows how this will play out...just tired of searching for "Big 12 Expansion News BYU" every few hours.

  • utopia381 Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 28, 2011 1:02 p.m.

    Really Andy?

  • CougFaninTX Frisco, TX
    Sept. 28, 2011 12:58 p.m.

    Based on all the rumors, I have to believe that an invitation from the Big 12 has already been extended to BYU. I wonder if BYU is trying to negotiate an invitation for football only. It's got to be killing the church leaders to think about leaving the WCC (faith based universities) in the first year. Although it makes all the sense in the world for athletics, it gives the church a little bit of a black eye.

    If the Big 12 is extending an invite to BSU, I have to think it's a football only invite. Boise to Missouri is a long way to travel for women's softball, and BSU has not been very impressive in any sport other than football.

  • SamoanYfan WEST JORDAN, UT
    Sept. 28, 2011 12:57 p.m.

    @Brave Sir Robin:

    Seriously "The Big Ego"? That's the best trash you can come up with? Ever since the Utes joined the PAC I have never seen such a big ego among players and fans, I see the PAC-12 logo in more places than the actual Ute logo...I guess the Utes belong in that conference to then.

    Boise State has accomplished just as much if no more than Utah when it comes to football. They deserve their football program in a BCS conference.

  • your_sangoma Clinton, UT
    Sept. 28, 2011 12:47 p.m.

    I love reading comments from Ute fans talking about the "Big Ego" that BYU has but then to go to another comment section on another article and read comments from Ute fans saying "At least we are in an AQ conference" Hilarious.

  • MurrayMike Murray, UT
    Sept. 28, 2011 12:35 p.m.

    BSU will never join the Big 12. Their fan base, tv revenue, academics just are not there. You think that Texas will fly up Boise to the Idaho Center and want to play in front of 4,500 basketball fans? The teams the Big 12 will be looking for are insitutitions that have a fan base and support their teams. Read an article from a Boise newspaper that was excited that BSU raised their average basketball attendance from 3,200 to 4,500 you got to be kidding me an AVERAGE of 4,500 fans? Kinda like a Ute BB game. The Big 12 want teams 'like' (notice I didn't say the Big 12 wants) BYU 64,000 football and 20,000 basketball and West Virginia 50,000 football and 15,000 basketball. It's the same reason I don't think the Big 12 will end up taking a TCU, football their great, but all other sports they tank. Boise is in the exact same spot BYU was 25 years ago, play 1 good team outside your conference, play you conf patsie's and hope you don't get upset, (see Nevada last year).

  • Veritas Aequitas Fruit Heights, UT
    Sept. 28, 2011 12:27 p.m.

    Brave Sir Robin | 11:01 a.m. Sept. 28, 2011
    San Diego, CA
    I like this. Put BYU, Boise St, and Texas and stick them in the same conference. You could call the conference "The Big Ego."


    The winner of the "Big Ego Conference" could play in the "Big Ego Bowl" against the University of Utah Fanbase.

    We could call the losers of the bowl... "The Losers".

    I'd watch that game on Pay-Per View, unless BYU played, then it would be on ESPN. (Does the Ute Fanbase have part of that sweet deal with K-Jazz?)


    But really, Sir Robin. How did those PAC Xii (Conference of Champions) Utes do against those "Big Ego" Boise State Girlsies from the WAC in last years Vegas Bowl?

  • Resolute Voice Deseret, UT
    Sept. 28, 2011 12:15 p.m.

    BSU has nothing comprehensive to offer the BIG 12. They are not a factor in expansion. I am not totally convinced BYU is even a factor. If the measure is football only then BYU and its history has more to offer than BSU. In the end both may be out in the cold, certainly BSU will be.

  • BAS Draper, UT
    Sept. 28, 2011 12:05 p.m.

    Perhaps Brave Sir Robin should be put in the "The Big Ego" Conference and Andy should get a clue. BSU has a great football team and has been good for the past decade; however, playing a stronger schedule in a stronger conference will create more loses. I think BSU and BYU will compete in the middle to upper and once in a while do very well. I see this same scenario for Utah. A rare window is opened this year for Utah with the scheduling and USC on probation.

  • Anonymous Infinity American Fork, UT
    Sept. 28, 2011 11:31 a.m.

    Who are all these Boise State people who are elevating them to national status in a BCS conference? If they were serious about this BCS conference deck shuffling we are being treated to, why did they jump to the Mountain West Conference; a loser conference. Everyone that has a chance to do something else are jumping off the MWC ship, not joining it. Come on. Boise State in the Big 10/12/16/? What's that? All these prima dona conference commissioners are just totally into MONEY, signing up with the networks, and the ESPN's, their own networks and whatever. Let's just quit all this politicing and get to a national conference of legitimate Division I football schools, and forget about the other lesser sports, as in basketball, and the rest of it. No, no, we can't do anything rash like that. It would upset the status quo, and cut into the wallets of all the vested interests. What we will continue to do is what we see happening now; relative chaos, and reshuffling of conference members, seeking their own self-interests. Well, come to think of it, I guess that is the American way; everybody on their own, making MONEY.

  • Mormon Ute Kaysville, UT
    Sept. 28, 2011 11:11 a.m.

    Isn't this era of instant news just great? So much speculation out there and very little of it has any bearing on reality or what the real end result will be. It just drives ya crazy sometimes.

    I'd like to see both BYU and Boise St. get a shot in a BCS conference so they can prove their mettle against the best every week. The possible scenarios are all over the place so it will interesting to see what actually happens.

  • Still Blue after all these years Kaysville, UT
    Sept. 28, 2011 11:11 a.m.

    Sir Robin in San Diego: happy to leave you alone, no problem there. I cannot speak for BSU, WVU, Louisville and Mizzou, but I'm reasonably confident the Y has invitation in hand.

  • MacNasty Rexburg, ID
    Sept. 28, 2011 11:10 a.m.

    Boise State has had a great football program for the last decade. However, it offers nothing else. It really brings little in the way of other sports, its fan base and stadium are small, its academics (I am not sure if academics really matter anymore in this age of follow the money)are not that good, the accompanying TV market is small and it is out of the Big 12 regional footprint.

    Maybe the Big 12 will issue an invite, who knows, but just don't get hopes up.

  • Salemite Salem, Ut
    Sept. 28, 2011 11:10 a.m.

    Andy - - - and the U could not handle Boise State year in and year out either !

  • Veritas Aequitas Fruit Heights, UT
    Sept. 28, 2011 11:06 a.m.

    Andy | 10:53 a.m. Sept. 28, 2011
    Cottonwood Heights, UT
    I don't think any team can compete day in and day out with BSU. They would win the Big 12 every year. BYU would rarely do better than 4th.

    BYU would do fine if they would create divisions, and put the two best teams in the other division.

    Then put the best team in BYU's division on probation, and BYU would be 3 weeks into the season, off a bye week, without a W against a AQ school, and talking about which bowl they were going to. Because BYU always has had athletic prowess.

    I just hope if BYU joins the Big 12, and they drop having their games nationally televised, BYU can get a sweet TV deal with K-Jazz...

  • Brave Sir Robin San Diego, CA
    Sept. 28, 2011 11:01 a.m.

    I like this. Put BYU, Boise St, and Texas and stick them in the same conference. You could call the conference "The Big Ego." Maybe you could figure out a way to get Ohio St, Notre Dame, and Miami in there as well - they would fit in.

    Let all these schools play each other and leave the rest of us alone.

  • Andy Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Sept. 28, 2011 10:53 a.m.

    I don't think any team can compete day in and day out with BSU. They would win the Big 12 every year. BYU would rarely do better than 4th.

  • Shaden Lincoln, NE
    Sept. 28, 2011 10:47 a.m.

    I wish something would hurry up and just happen so we can end the speculation.

  • jiacheng09 Provo, UT
    Sept. 28, 2011 10:20 a.m.

    If the Big 12 adds Boise ST I think that we should join. I can't think of a better conference than one that includes BSU, BYU, West Virginia, and Louisville in its expansion.