I see UCF winning the game. I remember a relatively bad Florida State team
coming into storied Provo and vastly overwhelming what was one of the best teams
BYU has recently had (I found it funny watching the NFL draft that when
Christian Ponder was drafted surprisingly high, nearly all of the highlights
showed came against BYU). This BYU team is not as good as that team was, and UCF
is probably close to the level of that FSU team.BYU's best chance
offensively is to deactivate diLuigi for the game and give the ball to Kariya
30+ times. UCF has probably a little bit more team speed than Utah does and we
saw how JJ's east-west style "attack" did against the Utes. He rivals
Heaps as the offense's biggest liability. The best way to negate the
disadvantage in speed is to utilize the underused Kariya's strong running.Experience at WR shouldn't matter. After DeVonte (the only experienced
Utah WR) got hurt and wasn't targeted the rest of the game, it was RS frosh Dres
Anderson and Jake Murphy that came up big pass catchers in the game. Those
"raw" WRs could be looking at breakout games.
Regarding altitude:A detailed multivariate analysis that you can
easily find on the internet found that a large altitude differential between the
home and visiting team (i.e., home team at a considerably higher altitude)
confers a significant advantage in Super Rugby even when adjusting for other
potential confounding factors. I know that football is not rugby but the
extrapolation seems reasonable and anyone who has traveled to a place with an
altitude 5000 feet higher than your home turf and engaged in vigorous physical
activity knows that you feel the effects quickly. Those living at high
altitudes have a number of potentially advantageous physiologic adaptations
besides just higher hemocrits. Altitude differences aside, the poor state of
UCF's passing game (both in terms of receiver development and pass protection)
will allow BYU to limit their offense. Again, we win this one easily.
Naval Vet, don't knock Florida International. They are 3-0 including a road win
at Louisville. Central Florida destroyed Boston College and are 2-1.Yes, there are four relatively new schools in Florida--although Central
Florida has been playing football since 1979. Orlando (Central Florida), Tampa
(South Florida), and the Miami-Fort Lauderdale, Palm Beach (Florida
International in Miami and Florida Atlantic in between Fort Lauderdale and Palm
Beach) have grown substantially over the years. There are more people in the 8
or so counties Central Florida serves than are in the state of Utah. Three of
the four--all but Florida Atlantic--are doing very well this year and they did
well last year.Enough to beat BYU in Provo? I don't think so,
unless BYU discounts them. I happen to believe that both Utah and Texas are in
the low 20s based on the consensus of the computer polls collected by Kenneth
Massey, while both Central Florida and BYU are in the 50s, out of 120 FBS
schools. BYU is hardly the worst team out there. They have a quality program
and I think they should beat Central Florida at home.
looking at past history Chris B's predictions are always way off even when
predicting a cougar loss and getting the side right. He wasn't close even on
the Utah game! I'll go BYU 20 UCF 10.
BYU's defense is terrible! A gimpy Jordan Wynn could of come out of the huddles
with a lawn chair, a hibachi, a cooler full of ice cold ones, cooked himself a
hamburger, eaten it, downed a few and still have over an hour to find an open
receiver or a Ute that had a BYU player grabbing their jerseys because they
don't have any ability to cover them without getting a pass-interference flag.
And then, an OK JC transfer is all, John White, with a scrapped-together injured
Ute O-line, ran all over the slow slow slow BYU defense like he was all alone on
the football field. I almost turned the tv off because the carnage was so
unreal. However, it was factual, brutal and embarrassing to a school that thinks
they can play football? Why, I simply don't know.
BYU will lose to UCF and USU terribly.......it is that simple......for about
10,000 reasons. A very young, shallow, injured, inexperienced Utah squad pounded
BYU into submission in historic fashion......and it could have been much worse.
The BYU "glory" days are decades' old. I really think that the
"storied" BYU football program is close to having the LDS church
curtailing such embarrassments that have occurred against good teams that have
demolished BYU, not just won, but destroyed them........and now on national tv?
Uh, well, it ain't tolerable. No exposure is ten times better than horrific
BYU's defense is way overrated. They did play good against a horrible
Mississippi team, but got manhandled after the quarterback change at Texas. They
gave up almost 300 yards of offence in 2 and a half quarters. Utah with a
questionable offensive line dominated the line of scrimage for 2 and half
quarters. They aren't deep at any position nor are any one on the team in good
condition. The more I look at the previous games statistics the bleaker it
looks. BYU losses tomorrow and might lose 7 games this year. Conditioning is
gained from January through March, Idon't think many of BYU players did much
until Spring Ball. As for Utah they win the South easily, there is no one else
capable of it with USC on probation and the others paying both Stanford and
Oregon. In the championship game with their defense I believe they beat in one
game not a series either Stanford or Oregon, neither team is good on defense and
defense wins championships. Life is bad for Cougar fans right now and will only
To niners: IF the Utes get to the PAC 12 conference playoff game, that is.
Then they might have a chance. Even then, they will be up against a tough team.
Don't look for them to win that game, even if they do qualify to play in it.
Just an FYI, for everyone talking about the altitude "disadvantage,"
it is actually an advantage in primarily anaerobic activities (like football) to
come from a lower elevation to a higher elevation. It probably will become a
negative later in the game as fatigue sets in and aerobic conditioning becomes a
larger factor, but I think at best it's probably a wash overall. Now if we were
talking about marathon running (near 100% aerobic), then it would certainly be a
disadvantage for the competitors coming from a lower elevation.
I suppose as long as sports writers think people believe that altitude makes a
difference, there will be a reference to it. I can't recall the last time I saw
a visiting team in Provo or SLC, even one from near sea level, look any more
tired than a team from higher elevations. Top conditioned players
perform well at any elevation although I suspect that high humidity and hot
temperatures are slightly more challenging than thinner, drier air.If UCF players are tough in Florida, they'll be tough here. Besides, Coach
O'Leary is a great coach.
CougarforeverI appreciate your optimism, but I don't think this team
is capable of scoring 17 points, let alone win by 17 points. . . .not unless
they have made some drastic changes on offense. . . .and I don't see
"drastic changes" as being a part of Bronco Mendenhall's "higher
plan" for the team.Sorry, I'm still pretty grumpy after that
last game. I hope I'm wrong.
@ cougarnateWeren't BYU fans the ones saying BYU was better than
Utah this year, last year, in 2008 and from 2002-2005. Yep, I think it was
them. Also I remember them all saying we would lose to Alabama in the Sugar
Bowl because Alabama was better than Utah. So don't make a fool of yourself by
saying Stanford and Oregon are better than Utah before we have a chance to prove
it in the PAC-12 Championship Game.
@ Naval vetPlease research what your talking about before posting. FIU and
UCF are both very good teams. UFC was in the top 25 last year and was chosen as
a BCS buster by SI this year. FIU is 3_ 0 ,beat Louisville at Louiseville and
arguably have one of the best running backs in the country.BYU will be
playing a quality team this Friday Unlike the Utes patsy Montana State
Chris b. the utes are not going to the rose bowl. Oregon and Stanford are both
better than utah. Utah will finish 9-3 and finish third in the Pac12 south.
I don't see the cougars losing to UCF, and especially not at home. The Knights
aren't that good. They lost to FIU!Let that sink in....FIU!There are no teams that can be even remotely described as challenging
and/or competitive who have lost to a Sun Belt team. FIU is the sort of
opponent Mendenhall fantasized about when he remarked how "the model has
been set" after Hawai'i backed into BCS bowl after playing an extremely
weak schedule. Bronco has been on the lookout for FCS and weak-WACish teams
ever since. And now, with his NEW model of playing all over the country [rather
than all over WAC country], I'm sure Holmoe and Mendenhall have already reached
out to the Panthers' Athletic Director.
defibman:"I have to laugh at the mighty u, who has to 'warm up'
against the likes of Montana State, while the Y goes against a powerful SEC
team."The "warm up" was supposed to be Iowa State,
but they had to renege their return game of a Home-&-Home series due to the
Big 12's move to a 9-game round robin league play. But you knew that. It's
been stated over and over ad nauseum. You were just desperate to find something
to disparage the Utes. So desperate, that you had to employ deception.And speaking of employed deception, I have to laugh at Y fans who would refer
to Ole Miss as "a powerful SEC team". Ole Miss lost to Vanderbilt,
and their only win came against the FCS' Southern Illinois. Just because you
guys got lucky in Oxford doesn't mean they're a powerhouse SEC team.
Byu is going to lose again. They can't bounce back yet, there is too much mayhem
to readjust. They may get close, but a better attitude or a "change in
heart" can't replace the physical condition of someone. If UCF sees how out
of shape their team is, and how their QB is not a leader, they WILL exploit them
and do some major damage.1-3
I'm not a betting man anyway, but if I were, I wouldn't feel good about a bet on
the Cougars at all anymore. Still, a fan, but would never put my money on them.
GO Cougars! Get out of the funk!
@patriotAs you say your a "fair weather fan" . Seriously I cant
speak for all BYU fans , but we really dont need or want you as a fan. Only "strong, unyielding, never say die, warriors" need apply. Who
will stand with us?
Get ready for a breakout game for the Cougars. They are due for a great game.
They have too much pride to go 1-3. Look for BYU to fire on all cylinders, both
offense and defense. BYU by 25!
UCF clearly has some athletes but BYU prevails in this game. Although UCF has
reasonably capable running backs, if you read some of the UCF insider
commentaries it appears that their receivers are really raw and hadn't even
mastered basic route structures on some of the plays called in their last game.
Their offensive line and backs were totally confused by blitzes. You just can't
correct those types of problems in four days. Granted their defense seems solid
but we will have a marked size advantage at the line and our running game should
finally emerge. The home team has additional preparation advantages in a short
week and this is a long trip for the Knights. The UCF players will feel a
definite altitude effect (elevation of UCF is about 90 feet). Contrary to what
others here are predicting this game won't be close. BYU by 17. Unfortunately, neither the impending victory over UCF nor the coming invite to
the Big-12 will completely assuage the pain still present from this past
"And I have to laugh at the mighty u, who has to "warm up"
against the likes of Montana State, while the Y goes against a powerful SEC
team." ---defibman Ole Miss in an SEC team. Powerful? Not
so much. I won't begrudge a win on the road, much less to a team from the SEC,
but they are/will be the worst team in that conference this year. And it won't
be close.====As tough a time BYU has with scoring, UCF can
also struggle. This will be a grudge match. If BYU pulls this off, I see them
having a nice respectable season. A 1-3 start, even with a schedule full of
WAC-ites, puts them to last season-esque.MY PREDICTION:BYU
hard to gin up any care after the 54-10 season sinker last saturday. Hats off to
the fans lining up to rise and shout back at the scene of the crime. Here is one
admittedly fair weather fan signing off for this season. I will tune in again if
and when the Y gets invited to the Big 12.
Whoa Nellie,Maybe you're right - maybe UCF is better than Utah.
But I can't find a publication that agrees with you on that.Let's
see how the two teams compare at the end of the season, shall we?Good luck, Cougars. I know you're better than what you showed last Saturday.
Re: davidutefanI appreciate the vote of confidence. I hope you are
right. BYU had better come ready to play though. Offensively BYU has to play
much better to win. I think they can win the game but they need to be firing on
all cylinders, and if they do win it won't be by a huge margin.
WowChris B do you need a hug? I wantedto say something mean but I
suddenly felt sorry for someone thats only joy in life is wishing bad on
others.All I m going to say is I hope BYU puts it together and plays a
hard fought game. I am hoping for a win, but mainly for a game they can be proud
of.Hugs and kisses to chris b, navy vet, and all the others.Go
BYU fans had better be very worried about UCF. BYU is slow, has very little
talent, maybe 3-5 OK athletes and has the worst coaching staff in NCAA football
by far. They are last in the nation in rushing, and as I've posted before, good
teams can run the ball and play defense for 60 minutes, not just the first half.
This is a must-win game for BYU......... but I think that it is going to be
another beat-down for the Y. Good luck however.
"now i'll play devil's advocate. ucf is a running team and the past 2 games
byu's d has shown that they tire out if you keep chipping away at them and if
that offense can't put points on the board, ucf's run game tires that byu front
7 out."BYU's D tired out against Utah and Texas because they
were always on the field. When the offense goes 3-and-out every time, like they
did in the 2nd half against Texas, then it's hard to stay sharp on Defense.
Guys get tired if have to play nearly every minute of a half.If the
offense can avoid going 3-and-out every time, the D will be fine.I
still don't know if BYU will win. It comes down to whether or not Hypes can
pull his head out. Yeah, I've reached the point where I'm using that nickname
for him. All I've heard from the announcers for the games is that he doesn't
look comfortable. If he can't handle the pressure, maybe it's time for Lark to
get a shot. Show us something or sit, Mr. Hypes.
I can't believe the Cougar fans are so willing to throw the team under the bus
the way they are. Yes, I believe Utah is a much better team than BYU but, the
potential of this team is so much better than what they have shown. So far, I
have a hard time with his statement that Heaps is the best qb he'll face all
year. He may end up that way but, he'll need to throw more than 1 TD pass per
game and find someone other than Apo. I think this cougar team will have more
pride than most of their fans believe and I'm not one of them though I don't
hate BYU any more than anyone else on Utah's schedule. I think the couars bounce
back this week mainly on the strength of their own defense. BYU 17- UCF 13
@defibman, do you watch football, powerful SEC team? Ole Miss just got destroyed
UCF, USF, FIU, FAU...its hard to separate these teams that have popped up to FBS
football in the last 10 years or so (especially since South Florida is in Tampa,
which doesn't register with me as south FL). Back in the day, it was always UF,
FSU and Miami.UCF dominated BC, then lost to FIU/FAU whomever, they
got caught being arrogant. Now they venture on what will be the longest flight
of their lives for most of their players, and first time in the mountains also,
with BYU looking for a rebound. It doesn't look pretty for them, or does it?BYU simply needs to recall when FSU came to the mountaintop. They
weren't mesmerized or winded at all. The Cougs got a beatdown that night also.
Be wary of Central, they are big, mean, and will get ugly on you. The beatdown
just might continue..
@ Navel VetAnd I have to laugh at the mighty u, who has to
"warm up" against the likes of Montana State, while the Y goes against
a powerful SEC team. So using logic of u fans, you have won two
games against a lower tier team and one against the worst offensive team in the
nation.Boy, that is a lot to be proud of! You ute fans never cease
to amaze everyone.
@ Chris B"byu never does well against speed and
athletes"Soooooo what are you saying about the u?NEVER? does well?WOW ! ! !
i'll give byu the benefit of the doubt. historically, they've been able to
bounce back from embarrassing losses. i think they can regroup, but that
offense has to score more than one td to give the defense a chance to make
stops.byu - 27ucf - 22now i'll play devil's
advocate. ucf is a running team and the past 2 games byu's d has shown that
they tire out if you keep chipping away at them and if that offense can't put
points on the board, ucf's run game tires that byu front 7 out. also, ucf has
either the 1st or 2nd ranked pass d in the country right now (i heard that on
the radio this morning, haven't really fact checked it yet), so heaps and co
have their work cut out for them.ucf - 28byu - 14
I usually like watching BYU footbal and hope they win. However, their offense is
simply terrible. I expect Heaps to complete only one touchdown to Apo (as in the
previous three games) with three more field goals because of their inability to
score touchdowns in the red zone. UCF should get at least two touchdowns and a
feild goal beacause the defense will be tired again from playing the whole game
with BYU's 3-n-out offense.BYU 16UCF 17
Runner,We're going to the Rose Bowl. Deal with it.Enjoy
another 1-4 start.I will.
This is what I'd like to see BYU focus / improve on in this game.1-
Offensive tempo. They are still slow. Slow in getting in and out of the
huddle, slow in getting the blocking sceme called and slow in getting the ball
snapped. They must improve in this area.2- Turnovers. Obviously..
Heaps has to protect the ball. The reason I call him out is because he will
face pressure, get hit, and it will be interesting to see how he responds. Will
he freak out and drop the ball, freak out and pout and blame his linemen, or
will he man up, take the hit and get after it on the next play?3-
Heaps playing with more aggression and being less scared. He is playing scared
and needs to get over it and be a leader on this team.BYU 24UCF 17Two other questions:1- What does Chris B do other than
sit around and comment on every BYU article2- Is he going to have the same
cockiness when his Utes loss their next 4 games?
Whoa Nellie:The Y already faced the best team they will have faced
all season last Saturday. I laugh at your desperate, frantic and emotional,
sour grapes dismissal of Utah's obvious superiority over your mid-majored,
Indy-WAC-ey program. SCOREBOARD!54-10Go Knights!
BYU needs to play angry. Last Saturday was humiliating. If they go into Saturday
with a chip on their shoulder they have a chance. If they don't learn from
Saturday's game they could lose by two touchdowns. I think the keys to the game
are:#1 Field Position: BYU's offense needs short fields and the
defense needs long fields. Plain and simple. If UCF makes BYU earn everything it
could be a long day. Special teams play can facilitate field position and so can
turnovers. As bad as the game was against the Utes, BYU got a couple turnovers
of their own. They need more this Friday.#2 Third-and-Short: They
need to avoid penalties that put them in 3rd and 10, 3rd and 15, and 3rd and 20
or they could be in for continued 3 and outs that increases the defense's time
on the field. 3rd and longs have killed BYU in these first 3 games. #3 PUT THE BALL IN THE END ZONE! When BYU puts itself inside the 30 or 20,
they need to use their red zone weapons. They have tall tight ends and
receivers. Doman has to dial up plays for them.
Considering:byu has one of the worst offenses in the nationUCF has one of the best defenses in the nationBYU can't runBYU can't score more than 1 offensive touchdown per game(self imposed
limit)UCF if FULL of athletesbyu has maybe 5 athletes on
the entire teamSpeed killsbyu never does well against
speed and athletesIt's a no brainerUCF 31byu 101-3.AgainSoon to be 1-4.Again.GO UCF!
I am a huge BYU fan, but the Cougs have not proven capable of scoring and UCF
can do so at will more often than not. UCF 34BYU 13Heaps gets booed off the field in favor of Nelson in the 2nd half and BYU goes
cold again down the stretch.
UCF is probably the best team BYU will play this year. I hope I'm wrong because
Texas looks to be getting better but UCF is better than Utah, maybe not against
BYU but overall UCF is probably better than Utah and Texas. The season could get
old and cold this Friday.
After reading this article and knowing BYU has trouble with dual threat
quarterbacks and UCF'S tough defense, I think BYU LOSES 21-14.
BYU has had a lot of struggles in the past in containing a mobile QB. I think
that will be the key to them winning. Also, they will have to put up points. BYU
should win this game unless they are still licking their wounds from last
weekend. If they come out flat and lose this game, I think the team is in a lot
of trouble for the rest of the season.They will either come out with their
hair on fire to prove they aren't as bad as last week, or let it get to them and
the whole season will likely slip away. This is a very important game right
now.BYU 31UCF 21