I was at that game last week and both sides need to calm it down I heard both
BYU and Utah fan's that were going below the belt the rivalry is not as bad as
it has been in the past.
Yankees27- I feel you brother! I grew up around that stuff too. I would rather
be sworn at or even have beer spilled on me than be talked down to by the
judgemental Y fans any day. They don't understand that by judging others they
are actually committing the bigger sin! I totally understand what you are saying
about chameleons too.P.S How did you get that Homeland Security
ED,I understand what you are saying, but the casting of
generalizations is a 2 way street.
It's unfortunate you guys completely categorize all Y fans into this terrible
group of people. It's more in your mind than anything. Why not sit back, enjoy
the game, have fun with the rivalry, quit casting generalized judgements, and
stop playing the role of church cop. Hope it's great game; may the best team
I, as an avid Ute fan, would have to agree that both sides say some pretty dumb
stuff to each other. However, we don't have a "holier than thou"
attitude like the Y fans. I don't claim to be anything other than what I am, a
sinner! I freely admit my faults and shortcomings, and am proud to be what I am.
I am LDS (not a card carrying member) and hold a calling, I'm the Homeland
Security officer for my ward (stay home on Sunday and protect the hood while my
neighbors go to church), I have never thrown beer on Max Halls mother because
you aren't allowed to have beer in the stadium, I don't hate the Y, the school,
the swim team, Cosmo, or any other part of the school, I don't even hate the
players, I just hate the judgemental fans. I always have. Y fans... chameleons
The purpose and mission of BYU athletics is to represent the standards and
values of the LDS Church. By extension, BYU fans are expected to
represent the values and standards of the LDS church. BYU has even
recently produced a "fan playbook" to instruct BYU fans how to support
their teams in a manner consistent with the values of the Church.Yet, when it is suggest that BYU fans fail to live up to the standards of the
Church, rather than examine their own behavior, their first reaction (see Mr.
Duckhunter and Mr. TJ) is often to point fingers at the behavior of those who
claim no association with BYU or BYU athletics.Just an
its amazing going to all the boards reading all the comments from byu and utah
fans. and all i ever hear from the byu fans is how classless and hypocritical
the utah fans are and how they bash on the byu fans, when in fact its actually
the total opposite. the only things utah fans can cut back on is claiming their
team as a national power cause theyre not, neither are you byu. but its funny
listening to the byu fans when all they are ever doing is talking bad to utah
fans and acting like byu is the greatest school to have ever been. and the its
amazing the comments the dnews approves when they deny comments far less worse
than those of the byu "fans" lol byu fans get real
Hey TJ, did you ever see the pictures of Kyle Whittingham's wife and daughter
being assaulted by a BYU fan in 2009? Yes, there's photographic proof.
Apparently profanity, bullying, and threats (and worse) go the other way too.
@Counter IntelligenceIt isn't a "substitute" at all. It is
simply part of it. Those that already hate the LDS just have one more tool to
use. Personally I don't care if this game is ever played again although I'm not
calling for it to end. But it will make no difference to the bigots. They will
hate the LDS anyway and will simply find another way to express it.
The loogies on my Utah car magnets that I got in Utah county might indicate that
BYU fans also share some culpability.BTW, TJ: I have never been more
verbally assaulted anywhere than I was at LES 2 years ago. (Disclaimer-I am a
BYU and Utah grad, avid Utah fan and said nothing to BYU fans or did anything
that other than cheer for my team)
And the classless behavior at the U has reached a disturbing level. Profanity,
bullying and threats have no place at a football game. Or is this how you think
a secular school should be acting. Some people take it way too far. It would be
very nice to see more respect or at least indifference to the other teams fans.
The hypocrites are utah fans like yourself wookie. You, as a supposed LDS
member, are expected to hold yourself to the same standard as any other LDS
individual. utah "fans" like yourself want to pretend that simply
being a fan of BYU means that those LDS that are BYU fans have to be held to a
higher standard but the LDS utah "fans" like yourself are exempt
because your school isn't owned by the church.If you are LDS, and
you are a utah "fan" you represent the church just as much as any BYU
fan does. The utterly despicable behavior displayed so regularly by utah
"fans", that is either by LDS utah "fans" or else goes
unquestioned and unchecked by LDS utah "fans" is far more of an
embarrassment to the LDS faith than anything any BYU fans ever do.You might want to check that beam in your eye.
Yes, the hypocracy at the Y is almost a slap in the face to the LDS Church
members. We are talking about a secular school and a Church school and yet one
group cannot seem to remember who they represent....