All you ute fans are sure making a lot of comments regarding something that
doesn't matter to you. It sounds like you protest too much.
Want more civility"Gunther: "I hope not".Keep it classy Utah! Max Hall was probably right....half right.
I could have put my previous statement in quotations and Cougar Fans would have
thought that was quoted directly from Bronco or Heaps.
If BYU can "Execute" their offense and run their plays with precise
"Execution", then they might have a good chance to win. If they can't
"Execute" than they won't win. "Execution" is critical for
the Cougars to win. They have to "Execute" on Offense and they have
to "Execute" on defense to have a chance to win. The team that better
"Executes" their plays on Saturday will win.
Reality is that the rivalry is now for fans. Utah as a team has moved on. This
isn't their most important game anymore. BYU as a team this is the biggest game.
Look at the preparation. The gag order a day early at BYU and on Jake Heaps
shows that. Things are unraveling at BYU because their season boils down to
beating Utah, after that what do they have to play for. Utah wins this week and
then we will see what type of mental toughness the players have at BYU, can they
pick it up in the coming weeks or do they end up 6 and 6. After losing to Texas
I don't see alot of confidence in BYU anymore, because after Saturday what do
they have to play for. Pride is all. Utah on the other hand has a lot left in
front of them. BYU is not Notre Dame, one loss and they're done. Notre Dame
needs to lose three before they are done.
wardu***BTW It will not be Utah Vs. Oregon, Really it won't be, you just
don't know it yet, but you will.***I agree, it will be Utah vs.
Stanford, or Furd as fellow Pac12 fans call them.Veracruz,Remember...Brandon Burton is STILL unblocked!!! Isn't
it funny, if Utah wins this year, it will be 7 of 10.
They hit the nail on the head. It's just another non-conference team. No need to
hype the rivalry. This game means much more to BYU than to Utah.
"Coach Whittingham has been much classier [than Meyer] in how he manages
that."Doesn't take much...Meyer criticizing someone
else's scheduling? LOL! Florida's out-of-conference scheduling got weaker
every year he was there:Western CarolinaWestern KentuckyTroyFlorida AtlanticCitadelCharleston SouthernTroyFlorida InternationalAppalachian State
@ Riverton CougarYou used, "If", "have yet",
"should" & "could" in your 2:15 post... Sounds quite
skeptical to me.More weasel words were used in your 8:28 post.You can try and spin this and make this about both programs. But, you
IMO look silly. Both teams look like really average 8-4 teams.
The offensive ineptitude of both teams will continue Saturday. This years holy war has a phenomenal chance of being the equivalent of a
marathon being run in drying cement.
Great article, one of the best written so far.
@Hank Pym,I wasn't necessarily "casting doubt". The truth
is that we don't know for sure that BYU's offense will be any better this week,
and it is a hypothetical like you pointed out. BYU did show some potential on
offense, and what better week to get it going than rivalry week? Especially
since the Utes seem to not be taking this game seriously (after all, remember
how unimportant this game is to you guys?). I'm not being foolish in my
optimism for a better offense this week (we can't get a whole lot worse,
anyway).That being said, this hypothetical applies to the Utes as
well. Where is their offense? BYU's defense has been shown to be good, and has
been tested by 2 great offenses. Utah's is good, but still had struggles even
against MSU. Utah's offense vs BYU's defense will almost definitely be in BYU's
favor. BYU's offense vs Utah's defense will be in Utah's favor (in case BYU's
offense gets clicking, in which case it will be more evenly matched, and
possibly BYU's favor if all goes well).All in all, BYU should
definitely be favored (in addition to the home advantage).
@ Veracruz | 5:18 p.m. Sept. 13, 2011 Does magic still happen too?
re: Riverton Cougar | 2:15 p.m. Sept. 13, 2011 "If BYU's
offense gets clicking (which we have yet to see this season, and should be just
around the corner), BYU could possibly score 17 in the first quarter
alone."The power of "If". I was going to
say something about your hypothetical. However, you do such a good job of
casting doubt on your own theory that I won't bother.Is it that
you'd like to believe in BYU's offense but reality keeps getting in the way??
Urban has not changed one bit. He was totally classless at Utah and continues
to be so today. He's a shame to the coaching community. I watched his
commentary of the Wisconsin game and I think even his co-workers were shocked at
what he said sometimes. His SEC arrogance shown through when he said that he
liked how Wisconsin scheduled so low to prepare for conference play. WI was
playing Oregon State. He takes cheap shots whenever he can. Can't stand the
guy and never will. ESPN hired a fool.
"Gunther: Unfortunately, both years that I played down there in Provo we
lost. But I remember in 2007 in the 4th and 19 game, the fans gave me the
business in the politest way possible..."===Gunther, do you really want to open the gates to whining about the fans in the
Remember...Johnny Harline is STILL open!!!
"But this game essentially means nothing."Chris B:Hedging your bet are you?? This phrase loudly tells me you are admitting
defeat.BYU 37Utah 10
I am a true blue byu fan! I'm as big as they get, but since Utah left for the
PAC-12 I have been cheering for them! They improve the quality of in state
football and brings national attention to the state! By no means am I a U fan,
but I am no longer a Utah hater, except for this week! Go cougars and good luck
to Utah the rest of the season! I think BYU pulls this one our. It seems
like their offense has more potential and if it gets going Utah will be in
trouble. Wynn seems to have forgot how to throw the ball after his surgery. I love gunthers comments. Love the red and blue show.Go cougars!
Chris, the Ute offense has not exactly been "bowling" other teams over
either. Maybe the Utes should have beat Montana like Oregon beat Nevada. Did not
happen. Your team managed a whopping 14 against an average USC. A beat-down on
the Utes would be great just to see you disappear again. Remember how well you
predicted last years Vegas Bowl? Yeah that was a classic.
Utah will lose, and they will not go to a bowl either. See chris you are not
really that original.BTW It will not be Utah Vs. Oregon, Really it
won't be, you just don't know it yet, but you will.
Had BYU beaten Texas this game would be a BIG deal for the U because the Y would
have been a top 20 team. As is, I think it's just about bragging rights. The U
already think they are better than the Y being in the Pac 12 and the Y already
feel the need to prove themselves being that they were the one left out.
This is our rivalry game. I don't care if it's played in week three or week
ten. While it certainly isn't the most important game of the season, it is the
most important game this week and it means a lot to me as a Ute fan. If you say
this game means nothing, you sound arrogant.Go Utes!
Dyer: "I hate that me being loud and cheering for my team is taken as a
personal insult to BYU fans."I don't think Dyer's statement is
true by any stretch of the imagination. It's the personal invective and worse
directed at fans of both schools by the fans of both schools that most of us
find insulting. I'm insulted as a U fan when U fans and coaches like Urban
Meyer make more of this rivalry than should be made of it, just as I am when Y
fans do the same. I much prefer KW's approach to Meyer's. Coach McBride's
approach was great: he wanted to win as much as Meyer, but he recognized it was
a rivalry that should be infused with mutual respect and some fun. Meyer did a
lot of great things at the U, but good riddance to his sophomoric approach to
the rivalry (he says he still can't say the name of the team down south). IT'S
A GAME!I'd love to see a game on Saturday like last week's
Michigan-ND game. Go Utes!
Riverton,Do you really think an offense that averages 1 touchdown(a
GAME) is even going to be within sniffing distance of a win come Saturday?You'll get to 17 with our 2nd stringers in.
Great article, I love our city's radio talk show guys (including Gunther on 1280
I think) - super mix of former Y and Ute players who are insightful, classy, and
know how to play up a rivalry the right way.If Utah is playing this
game down, they are going to lose it and then we'll see the boards full of
excuses, followed by chest-pounding about the conference Utah plays in. Sorry
guys...you got into a great conference, congrats, but you can pipe down after
you lose head to head this year.
@ Chris B-Dude, quit predicing Utah to win. That is about the worst
thing that could happen to us (based on your track record). And this game does
mean a lot to Utah, it could mean the difference of us even making it to a bowl
game. BYU is a lock to go to a bowl game, because they will win enough games,
for sure, and are a great team. Utah, however, might (dare I even say probably
won't) not get to a bowl game, so this game is huge. Please, Chris,
no more predictions!
Chris B,Do you honestly think that Utah's offense, which could't
even put up that many points against Montana State, will put up 31 points
against BYU's defense?If BYU's offense gets clicking (which we have
yet to see this season, and should be just around the corner), BYU could
possibly score 17 in the first quarter alone.I hope the Ute players
have the same attitude about this game that you say they do. They will get
destroyed if they do.
Utah will win. But this game essentially means nothing. When you're in BCS
conference its abouting winning your conference to play in a BCS game.We will play Oregon in the Pac 12 title game for the right to play in Rose
Bowl, regardless of what happens Saturday.byu will play in some bowl
I forget the name and don't care regardless of what happens Saturday.Another non-AQ practice for our guys, that is all this is.Utah