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Published: Tuesday, Sept. 13 2011 10:36 a.m. MDT

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RedUte
MAPLE VALLEY, WA

Bottom feeders? So I amI assuming you'll want the leftovers? Oh, one of the good things about rubbing shoulders with the "Big Boys" is that you actually get to play with big boys week after week. But don't stress, I am sure Wyoming and Colorado State will still be more than happy to fill your schedule. What an impressive future for BYU football. Who wouldn't be jealous?

hohum
Saint George, UT

naval vet: You are right, u would be lucky to finish better than 4th in their division let alone the championship. But the u would belong and that is what so many brag about. So be it.

The y will be fine.

The bcs will be gone in 2.

hohum
Saint George, UT

Where or where is the talk of Rose Bowl, championship game in the pac16, nc that was the talk of the town before. I honestly believe that the hill people are now very concerned about their possibilities in the "super conference" now. They haven't had to play Oregon, Stanford etc, but now they can't avoid all of them. OU, OSU, Texas, TT, bad time.I want one u fan to come on here and say that they u will win the division and conference and nc.

Biblical, crumbs fall from the masters table and the dogs are lucky to be there and get them.

Pagosa Kid
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

I am sick of all these University Presidents and Athletic Directors acting like spoiled professional athletes. I am so tired of the "all about me" attitude. There seems to be no loyalty among these University Presidents. When Oklahoma felt like they were not getting enough attention then they decide to take their ball away into the PAC 12. I found it interesting that the Missouri & Kansas Presidents expressed amazement and were upset that Oklahoma was doing this. Especially after all the Big XIX schools vowed solidarity just months earlier. Is there any honor in sports anymore. One would think University Presidents would be less like the professional sports athletes they are imitating. As for me - I'm sick of it.

CordonBleu
Park City, UT

majmajor

Having an advantage on a neutral field is far different from the advantage a home team has playing on their home field. Whittingham lost to every team in the MWC during the last six years, including MWC bottom dwellers New Mexico, Wyoming, Colorado State and UNLV. Utah hasn't beaten a PAC 10 team with a winning record on the road since Stanford(7-5) in 1996; and Utah hasn't beaten a Top 25 on the road since Oregon and Colorado in 1994.

So what makes Utah fans think the Utes would have any chance of winning road games against two perennially Top 10 teams like Texas and Oklahoma, teams that Utah would have to beat just to win their division?

If Utah's division consisted solely of Texas, Oklahoma, Texas Tech, and Oklahoma State, and Utah only had to sweep those four teams to play in the Rose Bowl, the Utes would still have to get lucky just to make it a Rose Bowl once per decade.

majmajor
Layton, UT

CordonBleu | 11:45 p.m. Sept. 13, 2011
Park City, UT
"majmajor,Having an advantage on a neutral field is far different from the advantage a home team has playing on their home field. Whittingham lost to every team in the MWC during the last six years, including MWC bottom dwellers New Mexico, Wyoming, Colorado State and UNLV. Utah hasn't beaten a PAC 10 team with a winning record on the road since Stanford(7-5) in 1996; and Utah hasn't beaten a Top 25 on the road since Oregon and Colorado in 1994."

First, I am a Cougar fan. Second, I like the Utes. Third, I support every team in the state. Fourth, I am tired of some comments from both Ute and Coug fans that try to stick-some-meaningless-facts in the eye of the other team.

I say "so what" to your comments. The fact is for the last 24 years the Cougs and Utes are equal competitors. They need each other, have the same quality athletes, and play a fun game.

You can't ask for anything more except the annual Army vs. Navy game. Recently Army has had it rough(i.e. fighting 3 wars)

CordonBleu
Park City, UT

majmajor

What does that have to do with Utah fan arguments that a neutral site game is the same as a road game? If Oklahoma and Texas join the PAC 16, the Utes aren't going to be playing the Longhorns and the Sooners at neutral sites.

Naval Vet
Philadelphia, PA

Truth Machine:

"When was the last time Utah beat a Top 25 team on the road?"

By my count, the last time Utah beat a Top-25 team on the road was back in 1994, where we beat the Pac-10 Champion Oregon, and the WAC Champion Colorado St. Can YOU recall when was the last time the Y beat a Conference Champion?

Hint: NEVER!

While 16-yrs is a long time to have beaten a ranked team on the road, if we put it into perspective, it doesn't look quite so pathetic. For instance, Utah has only PLAYED 11 ranked teams on the road. And going 2 of 11 brings our average to 0.182. Nothing to write home about there, but at least we aren't 0.125, like the cougars. Since 1994, the Y has road victories over ranked TCU [2006] and Arizona St. [1997] teams, but losses to 14.

So despite have been given more opportunities to push you win total to over 2, you failed.

Edge: Utah.

So your immaterial cherry-picked stats blows up in your own face. I don't do dumb things like that.

Edge: Naval Vet.

fan in orem
Orem, Utah

Naval Vet, Yes you do. You changed from ranked teams for utah to conference champions for BYU. A little sleight of hand, there, eh? You are bragging about an 18.2% winning percentage? Really? What a turd. And Redute, you sum it all up as a ute fan. "I would rather lose every game for the rest of eternity and make lots of money." Dude, people play sports to win games and be competitive, not sit on the couch and count your money. I hope your dreams come true, I really do.

Naval Vet
Philadelphia, PA

DNews Moderators:

I don't know what you're censoring ME for. If you're going to let "fan in orem" get away with introducing the strawman argument of "You are bragging about an 18.2% winning percentage?", and then calling me a "turd", why was it not okay for me to call him out on his substandard comprehension level by reiterating my statement of "Nothing to write home about there..." and turn his "turd" comment back around on him? Come on now. If you're going to "throw the flag", you gotta call it both ways.

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