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Published: Monday, Sept. 12 2011 9:57 a.m. MDT

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Cougars - Wise Older Brothers
Anaheim, CA

JohnJacobJingleHeimerSchmidt

It's hillarious watching jealous Utah fans trying to minimize the Utes only playing on ESPN once this season (courtesy of their big brothers), while the team the Utes supposedly left behind will have a least 10 games on the worldwide leader in sports.

Cabinfever
Las Vegas, NV

Always love to see all the Ute fans on here spouting off. Something you don't much see Y fans doing on the hate-filled Tribune boards. Nice to see BYU Football is living rent free in their heads!

Super conferences will not work long term because of BIG egos and BIG dollars! Texas has no interest in sharing with the likes of Oregon or USC. The egos$$ are too big on both sides for a comfy fit and if they try PAC16, it wouldn't last.

Independence would be much preferred by the big egos$$ and it would make for a real nice fit for BYU Football to play ND, TX, FL, etc. every year as indy's.

Joining any conference would be a step into the past! I really like where BYU is at!

PAC 12 loves U
Sandy, Utah

@ Cougars - Foolish Little Brothers

"It's hillarious watching jealous Utah fans trying to minimize the Utes only playing on ESPN once this season (courtesy of their big brothers), while the team the Utes supposedly left behind will have a least 10 games on the worldwide leader in sports."

I feel bad for byu's season ticket holders paying tons of money to watch WAC teams. Lucky for them they get to see one marquee BCS team come to Provo (courtesy of their big brother Utah).

TheSportsAuthority
Arlington, VA

PAC 12 clueless U

Everyone knows the WAC teams on this year's BYU schedule are merely a temporary fix. BYU has been scheduling elite teams like Notre Dame, Texas, Penn State, Florida State, Miami, and USC for decades and you'll see many of those teams on future BYU schedules.

Utah, for all their talk, is incapable of getting truly elite teams like Notre Dame and Texas to visit RES.

By the way, marquee teams don't end up on Versus for their inaugural PAC 12 game.

Terry
Sandy, UT

Texas does not want to go to the Pac 12, they have it too good in the Big 12 and don't want to lose their new Longhorn TV network! Insider reports show that most Pac 12 presidents and AD's don't want to rock the boat with new members as they are happy with their huge record breaking TV contract and don't want to split it up for new mouths to feed, especially without Texas. Others are greatly opposed to splitting up into a Western league and an Eastern league as they will no longer get to play in Southern Cali to get those high school recruits! Oklahoma can apply all they want, they are stuck in the Big 12 for now, so while anything can happen, this is still BYU's call to make on joining the Big 12 after Oklahoma's false threats get them some other concessions in the Big 12.

Even if they did lose OK and OK St. to the Pac 14, if Texas stays as reported, it is still viable conference with the likes of BYU, Air Force, TCU, Louisville, Pittsburg or Houston as replacements.

bobco
SOUTH JORDAN, UT

Utah might be the only BCS league team (not marquee) visiting RES this year, but it is only the third best team coming in behind Utah State and UCF.

I think BYU is in a good position just waiting to see how things go. Money is certainly not an issue, so lets just sit back and pick our spot and hopefully make the best decision for the future.

bobco
SOUTH JORDAN, UT

*LES

CougFaninTX
Frisco, TX

Would love to see Big 12 stay intact by adding Air Force, BYU and either TCU or Boise State. Only BYU has as many fans as Texas A&M, but this would elevate the conference from a strength standpoint, solidify the conference with 12 schools, and bring back the conference championship game.

Duckhunter
Highland, UT

@johnnnyjingleheimer

"BTW BYU fan, the MWC sharing money from our 2 BCS wins with you is a form of socialism that paid for your coach, live it and love it because you are a recipient of it."

Uh jingly...that amounted to a few hundred thousand dollars. utah "fans" like yourself like to pretend every school got millions of dollars from those bcs appearances. They didn't. They got a few hundred thousand each.

BYU's coaches are paid for through an endowment that was set up by big BYU boosters. The few hundred thousand they got from utah's bowl games is a meer pittance and is pretty much nothing compared to the millions and millions BYU's meer presence in both the wac and the mtn west brought to every single other school over the years as BYU was those conferences only real nationaly marketable brand.

But of course utah "fans" like yourself will keep trying to pretend utah brought much value to anyone else. They didn't.

WhatsInItForMe
Orem, Utah

If the Pac-12 doesn't accept the Oklahomas, then the Big XII won't implode. Too quickly, anyway.

However, Scott (commissioner of the Pac-12) said they aren't looking to expand BUT aren't excluding it, either. Sounds like he's still hoping to get both the Oklahomas and Texas's like he tried to do a year ago. He's just sitting back and waiting to see how it falls out with Texas.

Scott knows that if he doesn't get the Big XII teams he wants, when the SEC expands to 14 or 16 (the addition of A&M will cause certainly that), the Big Ten might need to expand (maybe getting the Oklahomas), leaving the Pac-12 in a bad spot for expanding. They'd get stuck with either the Kansas's or having to promote western mid-majors to grow.

Scott's proactive, so he won't pass up on taking the Oklahomas.

WhatsInItForMe
Orem, Utah

For those of you posting about the Big XII surviving by adding the likes of Boise State, Houston, TCU, or SMU, that WON'T happen. Promoting a bunch of mid-majors only waters down the BCS standing, not enhancing it by enlarging its numbers. Besides, Texas wouldn't allow other Texas-based schools into the conference---that'd water down their recruiting base advantage.

The only way the Big XII expands, no matter who they lose, is to add other BCS schools from the Big East and ACC, and to add BYU, the only mid-major left with enough national following to make it viable.

NightOwlAmerica
SALEM, OR

TheSportsAuthority said:

"PAC 12 clueless U

Everyone knows the WAC teams on this year's BYU schedule are merely a temporary fix. BYU has been scheduling elite teams like Notre Dame, Texas, Penn State, Florida State, Miami, and USC for decades and you'll see many of those teams on future BYU schedules.

Utah, for all their talk, is incapable of getting truly elite teams like Notre Dame and Texas to visit RES.

By the way, marquee teams don't end up on Versus for their inaugural PAC 12 game."

Uhh perhaps BYU should learn how to beat elite teams first. They just lost to Texas, one of the schools you just listed.

It does not matter how many times BYU is on ESPN. They are on the outside looking in. Utah is in a better position, already part of a BCS conference.

Razzle2
Bluffdale, UT

Doesn't matter. The invite never came.
Many believe that BYU turned down many conference invites in the past because they wanted to stay with the U.
What is the excuse now? Independence is supreme just ask Notre Dame?
Even though, Notre Dame has a BCS deal?

TXBYUFAN
Spring, TX

I've seen others ask this, but Ute fans never answer it. Why do some Ute fans feel the necessity to denigrate BYU and their fans? I simply don't understand it. I've lived in Texas nearly all my life. I spent a few years in Provo while I went to school. I never gave the U much thought while I was there other than during football and basketball games. I grew up a Longhorn fan and had friends that were A&M fans. I see Longhorn and Aggie fans get along all the time. They have a rivalry, but not a hatred. While I'd be naive to say there are no BYU fans that hate Utah fans, I feel fairly confident that the hatred is almost all one-way. I really just don't understand the hatred.

WallyD
North Salt Lake, UT

I agree with many of the comments. BYU has time on our side. We aren't in a hurry, let's make sure we get a great deal.

As for Oklahoma State, why would anybody want them. They have some decent sports, but not even great. They have one old alumnus that givves them great money.

To T. Boone Pickens: Where is Stillwater, OK?

southerncougar
Knoxville, TN

I love how the CU president is against expansion. What is funny is that with OU, OSU and others to follow, Colorado would be the red headed step child again for the PAC 16.

Naval Vet
Philadelphia, PA

TXBYUFAN:

I answered your question, but you'll have to ask the moderators what it said.

Naval Vet
Philadelphia, PA

TXBYUFAN:

...either that, or go ask that question over on one of the Tribune's articles. They have a lot healthier respect for the 1st Amendment over there.

UGradBYUfan
Snowflake, AZ

PACute_@ 2:50 p.m. "btw - if you want to see people acting like infantile imbeciles in the name of sports, attend any Utah football game in RES. As a Utah alum and fan, it's becoming more and more embarrassing to attend Utah football games."

I couldn't agree with you more! I went to a number of Ute games at the RES, and I won't go back again.

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