Red roundup: ESPN.com pegs Utes sixth in Pac-12


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  • Mormon Ute Kaysville, UT
    Sept. 1, 2011 9:02 a.m.

    I really get tired of all the talk about Wynn being injury prone. He has had one serious injury. Brian Johnson had a serious injury that required surgery and prolonged recovery, but came back to lead the Utes to an undefeated season and a Sugar Bowl victory over Alabama. I'm looking forward to seeing him reach his full potential under the guidance of Norm Chow and Brian Johnson.

  • chicagoborn WEST VALLEY CITY, UT
    Aug. 31, 2011 9:56 p.m.

    Oh no! That must mean teams like UCLA, Cal, WSU, and Colorado are all better than Utah. Because we all know one player makes the whole team.

  • SportsFan Orem, UT
    Aug. 31, 2011 10:54 a.m.

    ESPN's Top 25 PAC 12 Players

    Stan: 6
    Ore: 4
    USC: 4
    Wash: 3
    Ariz: 2
    WSU: 2
    ASU: 1
    Cal: 1
    Colo: 1
    UCLA: 1
    OSU, Utah: 0

  • AltaHawkFan Sandy, UT
    Aug. 31, 2011 12:08 a.m.

    re: u90

    At least BYU has an out clause in their bowl contracts that allows them to go to a BCS bowl if qualified and doesn't have to share any of the bowl proceeds. BYU fans mock because ute fans are all sure you'll play in the rose bowl every year.

    re: Wally West

    Honestly, I just think UCLA will be much improved this year. They have 17 returning starters including all of their WR's, top 2 RB's (a 1200 yd guy), and top 2 QB's. The coaching staff knows they're on the hot seat and I just expect a much better year for them.

    AZ St. has 15 returning starters with their top 4 RB's, all but 1 WR, and a very talented QB. They also return almost their entire defense. I just expect both teams to have better (bowl worthy) years.

    As for utah, I just don't see wynn making it unscathed throughout the season. The schedule and defenses you'll face will be too tough. If/when you have to turn to a backup QB, your season will essentially be over. I don't know how your coaching staff let your QB and RB cupboards get so empty.

  • Wally West SLC, UT
    Aug. 30, 2011 6:46 p.m.

    re: AltaHawkFan | 9:09 p.m. Aug. 29, 2011

    Again, whats with the love for Az St & UCLA?

    South projected finish... USC, UAz, UU, AZ St, UCLA, CU
    North Projected finish... Oregon, Stanford, Or St, UW, Cal, Wa St
    Overall order... Ducks (BCS game again?), Cardinal, USC, UAz, UU, Ore St, Az St, UW, Cal, UCLA, WA St, & CU.

  • U 90 Corona, CA
    Aug. 30, 2011 4:55 p.m.


    You are correct. I misquoted. The BYU bowl affiliations are as follows:
    2011 Bell Helicopter
    2012 Poinsettia
    2013 Kraft Fight Hunger

    Which is actually kind of funny given your fellow cougar fans are mocking Utah's past and potentially future appearances in the Poinsettia bowl.

    Anyway, thanks for setting me straight

  • flynn is the coolest Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 30, 2011 4:21 p.m.

    6th? At least that's good enough for the NM bowl.

  • Mormon Ute Kaysville, UT
    Aug. 30, 2011 4:01 p.m.

    Jordan Loverige is easily the best recruit so far for Coach K. and the future of the Utes basketball program. It will be tough for a couple of years, but after the last two seasons things can't get too much worse. I like what Coach K. is doing. He has brought in some players from the JC ranks and transfers that will give play the way he wants and will give the team a fighting chance this season. Now he is recruiting the right mix of local players and others to build the team in the future. We just have to be patient for a few seasons and then we'll start seeing the results. I'm excited for basketball this November for the first time in a couple of years.

  • Mormon Ute Kaysville, UT
    Aug. 30, 2011 3:53 p.m.

    I think the ranking from ESPN is about right. That puts us third in the South Division behind USC and AZ St. Both those teams have the talent to beat us and we play USC early enough it could be tough for our offense to score on them. Still, with an upset of AZ St. later in the season, we could be in the PAC 12 Championship game. Most experts are giving us a chance of doing that, especially with some of the injuries to key players for AZ St.

    Of course we won't know for sure until we play the games, but being conservative and realistic. I've got us finishing 9-3 losing to USC, Pitt, and either AZ St. or Washington. I'm also incredibly excited to stop speculating and see some action on the field. Go Utes!!

    Aug. 30, 2011 1:45 p.m.

    Wow,who would have thought that BYU fans would use their unbiased opinions to "predict" that Utah will be at the bottom of the Pac-12? I definitely didn't see it coming, and am very offended, because i personally believe the all-mighty cougs will win the National Championship for the next 3 years.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    Aug. 30, 2011 11:17 a.m.


    "They think they'd be regularly representing the Big 12 in BCS play."

    Do ya think? Because I've always had our frantic and emotional little sisters as believing they'd be regularly representing the WAC in the National Championship.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Aug. 30, 2011 10:19 a.m.


    Let me guess, "credibility" means predicting the utes will win the south or at minimum be in the top 4 of the league? Any prediction that utah will be anything less than that lacks "credibility"?

  • AltaHawkFan Sandy, UT
    Aug. 30, 2011 10:05 a.m.

    re: mm4ever

    Your alias is a dig at BYU, and you call us obsessed ? LOL

  • Jordan Lynchburg, VA
    Aug. 30, 2011 9:23 a.m.

    Wow, credibility is simply oozing from so many posters on here. I'm glad there are so many qualified people giving their opinions. Great! Go Utes, can't wait for an exciting season!

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Aug. 30, 2011 8:35 a.m.

    Frankly that prediction is a little bit to generous. They will finish in the bottom half.

  • MidMajor4ever Syracuse, UT
    Aug. 30, 2011 1:16 a.m.

    I see a lot of unhappy, obsessed, jealous Ute haters from our little midmajor sisters down south posting on all the Utah articles. I know the BCS conferences left your has-been program in the dust but come on, show a little class and respect!

    This will be a great season for the Utes playing a schedule against 10 BCS teams and only having two midmajor breathers. Hopefully the Utes can avoid the injury bug and get to the PAC-12 championship game.

    Go Utes!

  • AltaHawkFan Sandy, UT
    Aug. 29, 2011 10:41 p.m.

    Re: u90

    It's too bad that you're completely wrong. BYU is only contracted for the Bell Helicopter bowl for this year.

    I'm not sure utah will even be in a bowl this year. It'll be close.

  • BluCoug Provo, UT
    Aug. 29, 2011 10:25 p.m.

    Sounds about right ... Especially if ESPN marked it down!

  • U 90 Corona, CA
    Aug. 29, 2011 9:56 p.m.


    Don't you think they ought to actually play the games first before we declare which bowl everyone's going to?

    The only team that's really a lock for a bowl whether they go 6-6 or 12-0 is BYU in the Bell Helicopter Armed Forces Bowl... every year for the foreseeable future... so I guess you're right some things never change.

  • bluemoon1977 Provo, Utah
    Aug. 29, 2011 9:47 p.m.

    6th is about right. We've been hearing so much propoganda about the local college teams that reality has long since left us behind. The Utes simply don't have the players at the skill positions to win big in the new league.

    But they have definitely proven me wrong before--like 2008. Maybe they get a lucky call or a spectacular play and move up to 4th. That would be a great season.

  • AltaHawkFan Sandy, UT
    Aug. 29, 2011 9:09 p.m.

    My predictions for the pac12 standings.

    Arizona St
    Oregon St
    Washington St

  • sammyg Springville, UT
    Aug. 29, 2011 9:03 p.m.


    "Sixth is where the Cougars would finish in the Big 12."

    Well that must mean that you're one Ute fan that believes BYU will get an invitation. That's very kind of you.

    #6 for Utes in Pac 10.2 is pretty much a guaranteed ticket to Las Vegas as several of us have been saying for several months. It would be great wouldn't it?

    "Thank you very much." -- Elvis

  • Cougar_Independence OMAHA, NE
    Aug. 29, 2011 8:38 p.m.

    6th in Pac12 = Poinsettia Bowl!

    Question: What bowl game did Utah play in 2009 after finishing 3rd in MWC?
    Answer: Poinsettia Bowl!

    Question: If Utah finishes 6th in Pac12, what bowl game will they play in?
    Answer: Poinsettia Bowl!

    Some things never change...

  • Rock Of The Marne Phoenix, AZ
    Aug. 29, 2011 7:48 p.m.

    nunya, obsessed much you are. Was a Ute fan mean to you and now you have to try to get even. Has to be some reason as it isn't normal to post what you post.
    In regards to 6th place finish estimate, that seems fair given Oregon and Stanford are the obvious one and two. USC given their talent seems fair at three. The only room for debate is 4 through 7 with Wazzu and Colorado the obvious bottom feeders at the moment; surprised to see OSU listed so low.

  • Wally West SLC, UT
    Aug. 29, 2011 7:45 p.m.

    re: Scots | 6:36 p.m. Aug. 29, 2011


    I still say 8 Wins for the U and 3rd in the South behind UAz & USC. I can't understand all the love for UCLA & Az St.

    It'll take a few yrs for CU to purge themselves of the Dan Hawkins era.

    Isn't it funny Hawkins left Boise & spurned the U for the Buffs. The Utes then named some guy named Urban Meyer as HC.

  • nunya sacramento, ca
    Aug. 29, 2011 6:50 p.m.

    it is just me or does it seem as though most of the headlines regarding the utes are of them loosing? look forward to seeing it come true for football as well. hahahaha I can't wait.

  • nunya sacramento, ca
    Aug. 29, 2011 6:46 p.m.

    6th? Um, more like 12th. are you kidding me.

  • SoCalUtahFan Utesville, CA
    Aug. 29, 2011 6:40 p.m.

    hahaha....when was the last time these pre-season rankings turned out correctly?

    Did any pre-season predict the mighty Utes would end up being the first BCS buster and won the 2004 Fiesta Bowl?

    Did any pre-season ranking experts predict the powerful Utes would end up beating the national power Alabama in 2008 Sugar Bowl--in addition to other wins over top-10, and top-20 in that year?

    Go Utes!!! Prove them wrong!

  • Scots Ogden, UT
    Aug. 29, 2011 6:36 p.m.

    Utah should be 4 Arizona state has not proven anything and Washington just lost Jake Locker

  • priest801 West Jordan, UT
    Aug. 29, 2011 6:06 p.m.

    as a Utah fan I think that is about right until we prove otherwise

  • chicagoborn WEST VALLEY CITY, UT
    Aug. 29, 2011 5:59 p.m.

    Hey phoenix. Just so you know, the first two comment on this article were from Utah haters/BYU fans. Talk about obsession. And by the way Moderate, no use in making that argument. The Cougars were left in the dust when it came to invites to BCS conferences. It's sad really.

  • byronbca Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 29, 2011 5:58 p.m.

    6th is a fair ranking, but I'd be shocked if Utah doesn't do better than that considering they don't have to play the 2 best teams and they have AZ St at home. I would have picked them 3rd or 4th and I think they have a real shot at a pac 12 championship game. 3 more days until the season opener!

  • Swoop Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 29, 2011 5:53 p.m.

    6th or 7th is about right.

  • phoenix Gilbert, AZ
    Aug. 29, 2011 5:37 p.m.


    "Sixth is where the Cougars would finish in the Big 12."

    Really? On an article about Utah's projected PAC 12 finish, your very first thought was guessing where the Cougars would finish in a conference they're not even in? Nothing screams little brother like a fan so totally obsessed with his rival.

    Middle of the PAC is where most logical fans expected Utah to finish. ESPN's 6th place projection may be a little generous; 7th is more likely, as long as Wynn stays healthy for most of the season. If Jordan goes down, the Utes will be battling Washington State and Colorado for cellar dweller dishonors.

  • MAFU Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 29, 2011 5:31 p.m.

    In the immortal words of Bart Scott: Can't Wait!

  • Pipes Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 29, 2011 5:26 p.m.

    Middle of the Pac-12 sounds about right. That means it's highly unlikely they will finish the season ranked in the top 25. Let's just hope they don't embarrass themselves against Montana State!

  • Moderate Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 29, 2011 5:22 p.m.

    Sixth is where the Cougars would finish in the Big 12.

    They can't fathom that, because they beat Oklahoma by knocking out their quarterback, and have a chance to take Texas on another down year. They think they'd be regularly representing the Big 12 in BCS play.

  • Alpha Chicken Orem, UT
    Aug. 29, 2011 5:21 p.m.

    Dang, the Utes have been picked 6th, the seasons over... I wish there was some way that Utah could prove to these folks that maybe they are a decent team. I mean its too bad that they can't engage in some sort of competition, like maybe a football competition of some sort where they could actually see who is better, objectively by keeping score or whatnot. Oh well I guess we will just have to WAIT FOR THEM TO PLAY THE GAMES!

  • 1984 for life Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 29, 2011 4:52 p.m.

    @ Utehaterforlife | 4:41 p.m. Aug. 29, 2011
    Syracuse, UT

    The Utes will do fine since Blechen is still playing. They will miss Burton though since he is in the NFL.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 29, 2011 4:47 p.m.

    A little surprising. I think it will take a year or two in the BCS leagues to shed the "non-AQ" perception.

    I see Utah competing for #2 as I think the Stanford coaching change will be a kink in their system.

    With the constant disarray of USC's program I also dont see them being better than Utah.

    Not a chance this team ends the season 6th. We'll be top 3. Oregon is clearly the best, but we're top 3 any day of the week.

  • Utehaterforlife Syracuse, UT
    Aug. 29, 2011 4:41 p.m.

    Apparently the Pac 10.2 doesn't respect the little sister that was just born.

  • Bluewombat8 Cedar Hills, UT
    Aug. 29, 2011 4:40 p.m.

    6th in the Pac lets automatically give the Utes the National Championship trophy!!!!Cause they must have truly ment that being voted 6th in the Pac means that your really number 1 team not only in the Pac but in the world. Cause everyone knows that 2 good seasons out of your history is amazzzzzzzzzing.