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  • Hank Pym SLC, UT
    Aug. 30, 2011 4:41 p.m.

    If 10/1 rolls around and the sons of provo are 1-3; what then?

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    Aug. 30, 2011 2:11 p.m.

    Alpine Coug:

    So what you're saying is, you CAN'T link me up to any prognostications for articles in the prior year, but rather frantically and emotionally invented your own support, and tried to pass it off as a fact.

    I thought so.

    It looks like you also can't admit when you're wrong. Typical of your fanbase.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Aug. 30, 2011 1:48 p.m.

    Chris B:

    You remind me of Obama. You know, I'll cut the deficeit in half within three years. Can't mark either of your words because your predictions are off target.

  • sammyg Springville, UT
    Aug. 29, 2011 10:05 p.m.

    "This board is the war of mediocrity." -- Clowntown1

    Someone please pass me a Kleenex... again.

  • CougarOnTheProwl Murray, UT
    Aug. 29, 2011 8:52 p.m.

    The reason for the statement game reference is because the game is televised across the nation on espn. The entire nation has the game available to them if they choose to watch it. BYU knows that viewers from across the nation will be tuning in to watch so they want to put on a good showing against an SEC opponent. Utah on the other hand is regulated to Kjazz and Versus, even their game against a top 25 opponent (USC) will be televised on versus. Have fun and enjoy the great pleasures of viewing games on kjazz and versus ute trolls LOL. Dont worry though Christy B and Wedge, you do get one game on ESPN2 thanks to BYU of course.

  • scott182 Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 29, 2011 8:05 p.m.

    Who else could the Big10 get at this point? what candidates are out there that would go? I agree that BYU is the best option. Pac10 had Texas and it's friends in mind, and they would all only go if texas went. Of course they would want those huge schools over Utah.... But yes Utah was the next best option, I don't feel bad about that. Utah is a smaller school from a small conference, we are very glad to have moved up. Best of luck to Utah and BYU, both great teams.

  • Wally West SLC, UT
    Aug. 29, 2011 7:59 p.m.

    re: BlueSaint | 12:03 p.m. Aug. 29, 2011

    Just keep beating that BYU is on ESPN drum; its a nice change of pace from the usual 1984 rhetoric.

  • Wally West SLC, UT
    Aug. 29, 2011 7:50 p.m.

    re: BluCoug | 11:32 a.m. Aug. 29, 2011

    The Utes play MT State. The Grizz (UM) are a perennially 1-AA (FCS) power.

  • LonestarRunner Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 29, 2011 7:46 p.m.

    Nick Emery and T.J. Haws just committed to BYU!!!

    BYU hasn't played their first game as an Independent and they're already being pursued by the Big 12.

    Weekly national broadcasts of BYU football.

    Life is sweet if you're a Cougar fan!

  • Swoop Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 29, 2011 7:41 p.m.

    SoCalUtahFan

    "playing in the shadows of Utah"?

    lol

    During the Bronco/Kyle era

    MWC Championships
    BYU 2
    Utah 1

    AP Top 25 Finishes
    BYU 4
    Utah 2

    Kyle has lost to every cellar dweller in the MWC at least once
    Bronco is undefeated against Wyoming, CSU, NM, and UNLV

    Head-to-Head
    Bronco 3
    Kyle 3

    After September 17th it'll be
    Bronco 4
    Kyle 3

    with Bronco winning 4 of the last 6

  • eagle Provo, UT
    Aug. 29, 2011 7:36 p.m.

    A win over Ole Miss would be a nice win but hardly a statement. Ole Miss is a regular doormat in the SEC and lost its opener at home last year to Jacksonville State.

  • U 90 Corona, CA
    Aug. 29, 2011 7:33 p.m.

    Serenity,

    I'm pretty sure Utah fans, coaches, players etc. are not awe struck by BYU's "shadow". Utah's football program has received more national attention than the Y over the past 10 years. Translation... there is no shadow, it's part of your delusion.

    For every Utah troll there is also a sammyg or duckhunter, so don't pretend your fan base is above the trolling and obsession.

  • Uteology Fort Worth, Texas
    Aug. 29, 2011 7:17 p.m.

    @CougFaninTX | 11:46 a.m. Aug. 29, 2011
    The worst team in the SEC West (Ole Miss) would probably be picked to win the Big East. They would be in the upper half of the PAC12... Don't dis them because they play in the toughest conference in all of college football.

    -----------------

    No idea how good Ol'Miss will be this year but your last year analysis is wrong.

    That Ol' Miss lost at home to Division 2 Jacksonville State and with 4 total wins was 1-1 vs Division 2 schools.

    Furthermore, according to USA Today Jeff Sagarin 2010 rankings:

    A) WSU SOS #2 vs Ol' Miss SOS #32

    B) WSU played in the #1 conference vs Ol' Miss in #2

    C) WSU ranked #79 vs Ol' Miss #84

    So saying 2011 Ol' Miss picked to finish last in the SEC is a mid-tier PAC-12 team is just wrong. But I do agree that they could probably win the Big Least title.

  • SoCalUtahFan Utesville, CA
    Aug. 29, 2011 6:33 p.m.

    This is like a 'coming out' game for the Cougars --after so many years playing in the shadows of Utah and TCU in the MWC.
    BYU wants to establish itself as a worthy/good mid-major team --a level that Lavell took them there during his era.

    Good luck, Cougars!
    And good luck with the 'Quest to be alone'.

  • crowntown1 Corona, CA
    Aug. 29, 2011 6:23 p.m.

    This board is the war of mediocrity.

  • JonnyDanger HOUSTON, TX
    Aug. 29, 2011 5:46 p.m.

    @ Worf

    Haha!! So true! I am a closet Ute fan all but one game of the year, but it isn't worth the effort to try to pull up the games on justinTV. For you Utah fans outside of the Salt Lake area (how ever many that may be:) I am truly sorry. But I am so excited to watch 10 games on ESPN/BYUtv and attend TWO games in person...I can hardly wait!

    And to NightOwl-I didn't see the reference to money there... But I will go one further and say that in all likelihood Utah WILL have the upper hand in TV money after their acclimatization period in the PAC. But even then I won't be able to watch their games on my tv.

    Go Cougs

  • Rational Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 29, 2011 5:42 p.m.

    Montana State will not beat Utah, probably not score on them unless it is a pick-six. The D-line twos are too good.

    BYU will beat Ole Miss.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Aug. 29, 2011 5:35 p.m.

    Wow! I'll see the cougs on ESPN this saturday, but I can't find the utes anywhere in Texas for thursday game. Hmm! Pac-12, Independence? Utah back to the mountain west? Guess the utes will rake in pac-12 money this year.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Aug. 29, 2011 5:20 p.m.

    @Chris B:

    You add credibility to Max Hall and you'll be eating crow by weeks end.

    Montana St 36
    Utah 21

  • NightOwlAmerica SALEM, OR
    Aug. 29, 2011 5:10 p.m.

    Serenity Now said:

    "......But Texas A&M's reasons for leaving the Big 12? They give up 90% of their last 2 years of league membership (estimated at $28M) to move to a league where they won't break even for years and will have trouble ever getting to a BCS bowl...their reasons appear more connected to leaving behind the long shadow of Texas and the Longhorn Network than the upside of joining the SEC. Utah's reasons for packing up were objectively reasonable, but in the comments of Hedgehog, Chris B and other Ute trolls, the BYU-envy is revealed. Thankfully for these trolls, ESPN and BYUtv will be there every step..."

    Yep every step. So why do BYU fans keep talking about the TV money? I thought the move to independence was not about that.

  • NightOwlAmerica SALEM, OR
    Aug. 29, 2011 5:07 p.m.

    WAC domination does not a legacy program make
    -Yoda

  • Veritas Aequitas Fruit Heights, UT
    Aug. 29, 2011 5:01 p.m.

    Naval Vet | 11:18 a.m. Aug. 29, 2011
    Philadelphia, PA

    ESPNs Andrea Adelson recognized the irrelevancy of the Y when she said, A win in Oxford, Miss., on Saturday would go a long way toward showing the college football nation what BYU is all aboutand wins against [Mississippi, Texas, and Utah] would most certainly land the Cougars back into the national spotlight."

    Thats right. The Y has to landback into the national conscience, as at present, they are not there now.
    ===

    The article shows BYU is in the National conscience now, and you are wrong to allude otherwise.

    She said the "National Spotlight".

  • panamadesnews Lindon, UT
    Aug. 29, 2011 4:40 p.m.

    Chris B: I am willing to bet that you won't even show your face on a BYU blog after next Saturday. I can't see you coming on and saying, "hey, guys, I was wrong, sorry".

  • Alpine Coug Alpine, UT
    Aug. 29, 2011 4:35 p.m.

    @ Naval Vet

    Desperate, emotional, frantic, insecure....whoa dude! Thought name calling was forbidden by the moderators. Guess not.

    You could not be more wrong. You as a BYU-hater know exactly who you are and what you stand for. You together with Chrissie B and Hedgie have always ragged on BYU. And someone calls you out and you start name-calling.

    Nice try. Afraid that your insecurity as a troll is showing.

  • panamadesnews Lindon, UT
    Aug. 29, 2011 4:29 p.m.

    Chris B: Just like a typical BYU troll that would rather watch BYU lose than watch Utah win. I'm glad that I didn't sit there watching the U manhandle Alabama, wishing the whole time that the U would fall apart and somehow Alkabama would come back and win that game. Get a life, man!

  • Dr Rosenrosen Gilbert, AZ
    Aug. 29, 2011 3:57 p.m.

    Hmm, Don't recall anyone calling the UTEP game a statement game.

  • JonnyDanger HOUSTON, TX
    Aug. 29, 2011 3:35 p.m.

    Ah the preseason... For all the haters out there, Ole Miss is currently ranked 10 out of the 12 SEC teams on ESPNs power rankings. Since 8 teams from the SEC are ranked in preseason polls, that is far from a cellar dweller.

    But lets remember that we still haven't played ANY games yet. Ole Miss was supposed to be good last year but never showed up. They are supposed to be better this year, so we will have to wait and see. BYU finished last year very well, but it was against weak competition. They should be better this year, but who knows by how much? We will have to wait and see.

    It is a statement game because right now there is so much unknown about the team. If Heaps and Doman are hot, our Oline is strong and our defense really is improved from a good unit I wouldn't be surprised with a blowout victory. If all the improvement last year was the competition and Doman can't call plays well and Heaps can't get up for big games then I wouldn't be surprised with a blowout loss, especially in the heat and humidity.

    Go Cougs!

  • Serenity Now American Fork, UT
    Aug. 29, 2011 3:31 p.m.

    Having read some of the Texas A&M commentary and their desire to move out of the long shadow cast by Texas, I am now better able to understand the obsession of the Ute trolls with BYU football/basketball. It's not that Utah lacks a great football team, or great students, or great administrators---it has all of the above. And no one can fault the U for opting to graze in the greener pastures of the Pac 10.2 when the invitation came. A smart move on all accounts.

    But Texas A&M's reasons for leaving the Big 12? They give up 90% of their last 2 years of league membership (estimated at $28M) to move to a league where they won't break even for years and will have trouble ever getting to a BCS bowl...their reasons appear more connected to leaving behind the long shadow of Texas and the Longhorn Network than the upside of joining the SEC. Utah's reasons for packing up were objectively reasonable, but in the comments of Hedgehog, Chris B and other Ute trolls, the BYU-envy is revealed. Thankfully for these trolls, ESPN and BYUtv will be there every step...

  • WHAT NOW? Saint George, UT
    Aug. 29, 2011 3:16 p.m.

    BYU/Miss..

    Statement Game?

    The UTEP game was also referred to as the "Statement Game".

    This game will be another slaughter, just like the other "Statement Game".

  • CougarBlue Heber City, UT
    Aug. 29, 2011 2:42 p.m.

    Chris B you predict 90% of the time BYU will lose and 90% of the time you are wrong over the past 6 years.

  • Dr Rosenrosen Gilbert, AZ
    Aug. 29, 2011 2:41 p.m.

    My question is, does Chris B have the courage to come on here after a BYU win and admit he was wrong. My gut says no. I recall someone promising last year if BYU beat SDSU @ SDSU (bball) that he would retire from posting. Clearly not a man of his word.

  • WhatsInItForMe Orem, Utah
    Aug. 29, 2011 2:29 p.m.

    Maybe BYU won't be in the Big 12 after it's all said and done...

    NEW IDEA: With the current count of 68 BCS teams (considering TCU is BCS), it'd only take elevating one to three mid-majors to BCS status to get 5 geographically convenient 14-team BCS superconferences established:

    West Region
    -Arizona
    -Arizona State
    -BYU (or a mid-major if BYU remains independent)
    -California
    -Colorado
    -Oregon
    -Oregon State
    -Stanford
    -UCLA
    -USC
    -Utah
    -Washington
    -Washington State
    -undetermined mid-major from MWC or WAC

    Midwest Region
    -Arkansas
    -Baylor
    -Iowa
    -Iowa St
    -Kansas
    -Kansas St
    -LSU
    -Missouri
    -Oklahoma
    -Oklahoma State
    -TCU
    -Texas
    -Texas A&M
    -Texas Tech

    Great Lakes Region
    -Cincinnati
    -Illinois
    -Indiana
    -Kentucky
    -Louisville
    -Michigan
    -Michigan State
    -Minnesota
    -Nebraska
    -Northwestern
    -Notre Dame (or a mid-major if ND remains independent)
    -Ohio State
    -Purdue
    -Wisconsin

    Northeast Region
    -Boston College
    -Clemson
    -Connecticut
    -Maryland
    -North Carolina
    -North Carolina State
    -Penn State
    -Pittsburgh
    -Rutgers
    -Syracuse
    -Tennessee
    -Virginia
    -Virginia Tech
    -West Virginia

    South Region
    -Alabama
    -Auburn
    -Duke
    -Florida
    -Florida State
    -Georgia
    -Georgia Tech
    -Miami (FL)
    -Mississippi
    -Mississippi State
    -South Carolina
    -South Florida
    -Vanderbilt
    -Wake Forest

    Maybe teams here or there could switch, but it'd work out numerically.

  • gb13 Herriman, Utah
    Aug. 29, 2011 2:23 p.m.

    ChrisB is "one-in-a-million." (With "correct" predictions running at about the same rate/percentage).

    MY POINT BEING: BYU Wins!!! Big.

    The thing I really can't understand, however, is the "I can't wait" statement. Especially since the predictions are so violently wrong (most of the time). It is one thing to make a wrong prediction, but certainly another to attempt embarrassment to oneself by saying, "I can't wait." Apparently self-respect is a trait that is not that important to some people.

    GO COUGARS!!

  • Alpine Coug Alpine, UT
    Aug. 29, 2011 1:57 p.m.

    They're baaaaack! And the appearances of Chrissie B and Naval Vet bode well for the Cougs upcoming football season. Their forecasts were used by Cougar fans everywhere as an inverse barometer of the Cougar basketball teams fortunes this past season.

    No doubt that old Hedgie will shortly come out of hibernation as well to provide us with some amusement in their eternal quest to rag on the Cougs!!

    Going to be a great year and lay the foundation for an even greater year in 2012.

    Go Cougs!!!

  • WhatsInItForMe Orem, Utah
    Aug. 29, 2011 1:55 p.m.

    @ carabaoU,

    I think your subjective predictions will be subjugated by the end of September.

    BYU 4-0 start, Utah 1-3 start.

    Utah's team has way more unanswered questions than BYU's team. That'll be the difference.

  • Marked it Down Park City, UT
    Aug. 29, 2011 1:55 p.m.

    carabaoU

    You got the numbers right, you just mixed up the names.

    BYU starts 4-0, Utah starts 1-3.

    The Utes are fortunate that they open the season at home against a Big Sky team, otherwise they'd be starting 0-4.

  • UU32 Bountiful, UT
    Aug. 29, 2011 1:47 p.m.

    The Ole Miss game is not a statement game. It is a must win / will win game. The Texas game is the only statement game on the schedule this year. Utah, UCF, Oregon State, TCU, Hawaii -- all good games against good teams. Those are the kind of games BYU should win - if they are setting their goals and aspirations where they have stated. They should also then turn around and cheer for those teams to have great seasons to show that they were games worthy of noting.

    Otherwise, the Texas game sits as the lone "statement" game this year. A stellar showing in Austin is a must.

  • carabaoU Moab, UT
    Aug. 29, 2011 1:32 p.m.

    Runner | 11:44 a.m. Aug. 29, 2011
    Chandler, AZ

    Looking at it objectively,...
    -----

    Objectively? There is no objectivity right now at the start of a season. All stats were from last year where so many players are not on the teams anymore. You are looking at it SUBJECTIVELY...

    Oh forgot it, I've had enough arguing with clueless cougars this summer. No more. I've got 3 more days then college football kicks off. Then reality plays out before our colored glasses.

    My predictions (predictions are completely subjective!):
    BYU loses to Ole Miss. Close game, but by 4th quarter Ole Miss pulls away for a win.

    BYU loses to Texas. Not even close. Texas runs through the swiss cheese BYU defense.

    BYU loses to Utah. Norm Chow shows up again to haunt BYU.

    BYU wins against Central Florida. Finally a win. The cold and altitude doom Central Florida by 4th quarter.

    BYU starts 1-3, Utah starts 4-0.

  • RSLJAZZBYUUTAH Syracuse, UT
    Aug. 29, 2011 1:18 p.m.

    UtahUtesSports | 12:33 p.m. Aug. 29, 2011
    Salt Lake City, UT

    Thanks for being a classy Ute fan, there are sour apples in both fan bases, and this is one reason why some people don't want the rivalry anymore, I enjoy the game and atmosphere for a BYU vs Utah game, but most of the fans annoy me like no other. I am not a huge fan of Utah, but I to want them to succeed except for that one loss down south, but other than that its great to have football season starting again.

  • Mildred in Fillmore Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 29, 2011 1:15 p.m.

    Don't understand why this is a statement game. BYU is a legendary program and we are playing arguably the worst team in the SEC. This is going to be a slaughter.

  • Marked it Down Park City, UT
    Aug. 29, 2011 1:06 p.m.

    Chris B

    "Curious you don't mention my FOOTBALL predictions from last year.

    They were scary close."

    Yes, we particularly liked this football prediction:

    hedgehog | 12:03 p.m. Sept. 28, 2010

    "The Utes have at least 50% chance of going undefeated and reaching a BCS bowl game this year."

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 29, 2011 1:05 p.m.

    Cougarnate,

    byu 17
    Ole Miss 30

    Utah 45
    Montana State 10

    Here it comes...

    Mark it Down!

  • COUGARNATE Lyman, WY
    Aug. 29, 2011 1:00 p.m.

    Chrissy B predicts another BYU loss. Makes me feel good about BYU's chances.
    Thanks Chrissy.

    BYU 38
    ole miss 20

    Montana St. 21
    utah 30
    Utah is going to be down this year, and this game is going to show how bad their offense will be this year.

  • CaptainL PROVO, UT
    Aug. 29, 2011 12:38 p.m.

    I really don't see BYU accepting an invitation to the big 10/12 even if one comes. It is too soon to abandon the independent move. Belonging to a BCS conf. makes things easier but not necessarily better. I hope we stay independent and make it work.

  • UtahUtesSports Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 29, 2011 12:33 p.m.

    Chris B in no way represents the University of Utah's fan base... Cougar fans just ignore his comments.
    BYU is going to be a very good team this year and I don't see them losing very many games at all, actually I hope that the only game that they lose this year is against Utah. Everyone always talks about how when you beat a team the win is diminished if that team doesn't end up with a good record....
    So why on earth would you want to beat BYU and then watch that win slowly fade in relevance if they were to lose more games.
    Most Utah fans would agree with this. The others are too busy hiding in their mothers basements to understand this concept.
    I wish the best for BYU in their game against Ole Miss and I wish the Utes the best in their game against Montana State.
    Every single game is a must win game now days so every game is the most important one that you will play!
    Go UTES!!!

  • Pete in Texas Copperas Cove, TX
    Aug. 29, 2011 12:33 p.m.

    As a BYU fan deep in Texas country, I'm looking forward to the BYU-UT game. If the game were played in Lavell Edwards Stadium this year, I'd make the call right now that BYU wins. However, the Longhorns have an electric atmosphere and that will undoubtedly help their team. However, Ole Miss is an easy call- BYU.

    As for the question as to whether or not BYU should consider joining in the same conference as the Longhorns, that's an obvious no brainer: no way. The Longhorns are running the Big 10 and only need another team to keep their number at 10. A&M is trying to leave because of the inequality in the conference and I believe it won't be long before OU and OSU head down the road as well. BYU certainly qualifies as a legitimate team for the conference on their own merits and everything they bring to the table, but I firmly belive that independence will be in the best interests of their entire program..... for the time being.

  • Starfarer Mesa, AZ
    Aug. 29, 2011 12:24 p.m.

    Chris

    You always talk about "Athletes."

    Please define "athletes" for us.

    Please regal us with why a 315 lb BYU player is not an "athlete" and a 315 lb So miss players is? Why their receivers are "Athletes" and our are not. Why their quarterback is and ours is not?

    Man up. What are you really saying?

  • truthsandwich RANDOLPH, UT
    Aug. 29, 2011 12:22 p.m.

    ESPN power rankings have ole miss ranked 8 out of 12. Maybe not a huge statement, but nothing wrong with calling this a respectable win. Good luck to the cougs- this Ute fan would prefer to see them do well with their independent status. Keeps things fun.

    Also, does anyone else feel like the D-News randomly censors harmless comments?

  • flynn is the coolest Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 29, 2011 12:17 p.m.

    @The Rock

    I'm with you- Independence is probably the safest road for now- and I don't think BYU want the WCC to be left at the altar after just 1 season- especially since they've done us a huge favor for 2011 non FB sports.

    If it's possible, it would be cool if the big 12 gave BYU a transitional period- where they had 3 FB and 6 BB game a year against Big 12 teams over the next 3-5 years. This would show that the Big XX is actually stable, and genuinely interested in BYU. BYU would not draw on the conference revenue over that period, and could also help the Big XX establish its brand by helping institutions set up their own broadcasting networks. Just a thought.

  • Rational Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 29, 2011 12:17 p.m.

    "rely on cheat sheets and cliff notes." Sorry.

  • Rational Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 29, 2011 12:14 p.m.

    Chris B

    Curious you don't mention my FOOTBALL predictions from last year.

    They were scary close.
    ----------

    As far from accurate as that statement is, I hope that is selective memory and not a mild form of mental illness.

  • GoodGuyGary Houston, TX
    Aug. 29, 2011 12:13 p.m.

    Montana 99
    utah 0

    I got the inspiration from Chris B.

  • Rational Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 29, 2011 12:12 p.m.

    It isn't that hard to figure out what "statement" means, at least for those older than 12, with IQs above 100, and with decent educations:

    Losing big says one thing
    Barely losing says another

    Winning says one thing
    Winning big says another

    We will see what statement is made.

    Sound waves cannot travel in a vacuum, because sound requires a medium and the Mtn. was like playing in a vacuum. Now that BYU football has a sufficient "medium" (ESPN) to "conduct" (broadcast) its games, the "statement," whatever it is, will be heard.

    Now even those who rely and cheat sheets and cliff notes can understand what a "statement" game is.

  • TJ Eagle Mountain, UT
    Aug. 29, 2011 12:10 p.m.

    BlueCoug;
    Too funny, but you waste your breath. crisb does not care about Utah. She lives to disrespect BYU and the LDS standards. The good thing is that BYU almost always wins games where she predicts losses.

    Thank you crisb. I am feeling better about the Old Miss and Texas games.

  • Eliot Santaquin, UT
    Aug. 29, 2011 12:03 p.m.

    I just looked at the standings and I see that Ole Miss is tied for first in the SEC. This should be a tough game.

  • BlueSaint South Jordan, UT
    Aug. 29, 2011 12:03 p.m.

    One thing for sure, BYU will never be out of Utah fans minds. Their obsession with all things BYU, even with their own Community college up north in the PAC-10 is really hilarious. Almost everyone of BYU'S games are on ESPN. More than any other program in the country! That is about as relevant as a program can get.

    How many Utah games on ESPN so far?....ONE! What a coincidence, it's against BYU. Now you want to talk irrelevant?

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 29, 2011 11:53 a.m.

    cougfaninTexas,

    You're right. With basketball I was off a lot, Jimmer carried the team.

    Curious you don't mention my FOOTBALL predictions from last year.

    They were scary close.

    I'll remind you next week that I was right and you were wrong.

    But hey cougars, a 17-30 loss will seem like a win after a 42-14 beatdown at the hands of Texas

  • Tom in CA Vallejo, CA
    Aug. 29, 2011 11:50 a.m.

    Naval Vet:

    Why are you so obsessed with BYU? It's difficult to stay away, isn't it.

    The truth of the matter is, utah was just an afterthought when the PAC came looking. BYU actually was the pick of the litter, but bigotry ruled the day.

    How many conference championships for BYU v. utah in the MWC??

  • CougFaninTX Frisco, TX
    Aug. 29, 2011 11:46 a.m.

    @Naval Vet
    The worst team in the SEC West (Ole Miss) would probably be picked to win the Big East. They would be in the upper half of the PAC12. The lost to 5 teams last year who finished in the Top 15. Don't dis them because they play in the toughest conference in all of college football.

    Ole Miss is probably not a Top 25 team, but they are in that next tier. They are not Washington St, Iowa St, Rutgers or Louisville.

    BYU plays Ole Miss, U play Montana State in Week 1. Go back and read Whit's and Wynn's comments about Montana State. Their comments were almost identical to Heaps' comments about Ole Miss. Their comments almost made me think they got mixed up and were talking about Week 2 against USC they were predicting such a hard fought battle.

    @Chris B
    Your assessment of Ole Miss is right on. I look forward to reading your post on Saturday night after a Cougar win. You predicted wrong on every BYU basketball game, and you are wrong again on this one. Unless you meant BYU 30, Ole Miss 17?

  • CRB Woods Cross, UT
    Aug. 29, 2011 11:45 a.m.

    Its a sad statement made when your statement game is against the last place team in a BCS conference. Either that is silly hype or the program is lower than we thought. However, when a team is an independant with a weak schedule (average ranking of opponent at 78th) then you must make the most out of it. It is a tired horse to beat but all I hear is the ESPN TV deal. Of course it is much better than the mountain contract which was the worst in college football. But BYU's deal is a Wac deal. They have exactly the same # of games and positioning (ESPN2, weekday games and ESPNU) as other Wac teams. However, the Wac TV deal is huge compared to the Mtn. so BYU is better off. Also remember the road games would have been on the SEC, Pac12 and Big 12 networks anyway so that's no change. Independance is great until you lose your first game. It is like being on NCAA probation and only haveing the AP poll to focus on. Its going to be a long season with a terrible schedule it maybe ole Miss is their statement game after all.

  • Runner Chandler, AZ
    Aug. 29, 2011 11:44 a.m.

    Here come all of the naysayers, all of the haters. Any informed, intelligent football fan knows that BYU will be very good this year. Their defense is going to be very good and if Heaps can continue to improve at the rate he showed last year, the offense will be good as well.

    Looking at it objectively, their first four games look like this:

    @ Ole Miss -- They should roll the Rebels. Ole Miss will be lucky to score. The only thing Mississippi has going for it is their offensive line and that it's a home game. Other than that...BYU out matches them and should outplay them in every way.

    @ Texas -- Tough game in a tough environment. Texas is always loaded with talent, although this year they have questions at QB. Should be a close game and could go either way.

    Utah -- Face it, the Utes are in trouble. Their overrated QB will probably be hurt by this game, they have no RBs and their O-line has fallen apart. Their Defense is good, but not good enough...BYU wins this by 10+

    UCF -- A good game against a good team. BYU should win this one at home.

  • Johnny Triumph American Fork, UT
    Aug. 29, 2011 11:41 a.m.

    And BYU would limit their brand if they joined the Big12 so quickly. There's no way the Big12 will bow to BYU's demands and BYU will only stand to strengthen their position with a few years, at least, of success. Then conferences will be begging to have them join. As far as I see it, BYU has 8 years (ESPN contract length) to make it work. Give it time and if it's still not working then make a change. Either way you're not out anything.

  • Johnny Triumph American Fork, UT
    Aug. 29, 2011 11:38 a.m.

    Seems like every game from here on out is a statement game for BYU, just like every game for Utah will be too. Any loss by either team will be viewed as a problem for either school.

  • The Rock Federal Way, WA
    Aug. 29, 2011 11:32 a.m.

    I would find it slightly dishonest to leave the WCC this soon after the "marriage". I hope BYU is not that fickle.

    I am of the opinion that independence is the best route for BYU at present. If they can make it work it will be a major boost to the program. There is nothing like controlling your own destiny.

    As for Chris B: Please, get a life.

  • BluCoug Provo, UT
    Aug. 29, 2011 11:32 a.m.

    Montana 31

    utes 17

    Even a Division II schools can generate great athletes.

    It will be like Southern Baptist all over again.

    I agree Chris, I can't wait.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    Aug. 29, 2011 11:18 a.m.

    ESPNs Andrea Adelson recognized the irrelevancy of the Y when she said, A win in Oxford, Miss., on Saturday would go a long way toward showing the college football nation what BYU is all aboutand wins against [Mississippi, Texas, and Utah] would most certainly land the Cougars back into the national spotlight."

    Thats right. The Y has to landback into the national conscience, as at present, they are not there now.

    QB Jake Heaps echoed Ms. Adelsons thoughts when he said, Its a huge statement game for us. This game means a lot to us...But its going to be a hard fought battle. If playing the worst team in the SEC West is huge, and expected to be a hard fought battle, its obvious they dont feel up to task when facing AQ teams not at the bottom of their league. And the cougars' pathetic sub-.500 record in facing AQ schools further supports that.

  • IDC Boise, ID
    Aug. 29, 2011 11:12 a.m.

    Yes, I read the article but enough already. Football season, please get here soon. Go Cougs!

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 29, 2011 11:06 a.m.

    Ole Miss 30
    byu 17

    Even a mediocre ole miss team is filled with "athletes."

    This will be like the Florida State series all over again.

    I can't wait!