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Published: Saturday, Aug. 20 2011 5:11 p.m. MDT

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George
Bronx, NY

you cant take back what was not yours.

JoCo Ute
Grants Pass, OR

As a condition of statehood Utah agreed that these so called public lands are National Lands and not state lands. They belong to citizens of the USA, whether they live in Blanding or Salt Lake or even in Boston, New York, Miami or Portland. At least Bishop knows that "half the acreage in the west". Hatch can't get "your land back" because it's not yours to begin with.

Anyone who's spent even a little time in the public lands of the west has seen the destruction of trails and roads caused by ORV's, mining and irresponsible farming and ranching.

Idahoan138
Pocatello, ID

Mr. Bishop's number is not quite right. The federal government owns 85% of the State of Utah. Idaho is similarly shackled.

The civil war was not about slavery - it was about the destruction of the 10th amendment. Only after the civil war did you see the federal government blackmailing territories by demanding deeding-over of most of the land in exchange for statehood. The populations of any territory which was in political disfavor (e.g. the territory of Deseret) watched in frustration while their territory was slowly carved up and turned into states willing to be blackmailed - - and what choice did they have?

Welcome to Tho. Jefferson & Geo. Washington's Bane.

For full disclosure, I was born & raised in Utah.

MyChildrensKeeper
Kearns, UT

Well said by JoCo and george. That's why the native americans can't get their land back either, it all belongs to the white man, black man, Mexicans, Asians, China, Nevada, oil companies, kennecott, etc.

This rally was a wasted effort for special interest to think they own public land and should have free reign over its use and destruction. Public means you have access, not homesteading or property rights.

JimLynch
King George, VA

What is it with Utahns? Are their state lands managed so well? Can we see a study that shows how well they're doing with their own lands? Federal lands belong to us all, not just the residents of the state they happen to be in.

KDave
Moab, UT

If Public Land is not ours, who's is it? That is the question.

Mountanman
Hayden, ID

That's right! The land belongs to the bureaucrats in D.C. Even your home, your life, your freedoms belongs to them. Don't believe it? Just don't pay your taxes and you will find out who owns you.

poindex
EAGLE MOUNTAIN, UT

This rally had only one objective, to help a bunch of guys not feel buyers remorse for purchasing expensive, silly motorized toys.

Mountanman
Hayden, ID

Can you sell your share of the public lands? No, then they don't belong to you.

George
Bronx, NY

@kdave
It belongs to everyone in the nation not just utahn's. It became federal land because no one wanted it at the time and long before the Mormons arrived. Now if Utah wants to buy the land........
@mountain man
@8:56 I am sorry mountain man did you forget to vote? we are the government if its screwed up its because we made it that way.
@9:13
ah doesn't this kind of contradict your previous post? your right the land belongs to all Americans not just Utahans.

JoCo Ute
Grants Pass, OR

RE Mountanman (not my spelling) Who's private army, navy, and air force do you have signed up to defend you in Hayden, Idaho after you don't pay taxes? Are they going to get to your "mountan" to defend you on your own private road? Were you home skooled? What about doctors, police, and firemen? Don't pay taxes - you're just kidding? Right.

county mom
Monroe, UT

Do any of you ever want to visit Utah? Would you like a trail to hike on? or maybe a road to drive on, that is not paved? Maybe you just might want to go into the mountains?
Well soon that will no longer be an option. You will have to stay on the paved roads and groomed trails, or ride a bused tour like Zoins Natioal Park. Daily the Federal Forest Service is closing trails. When they are closed they are closed to EVERYONE. Wilderness is closed land, no one has access. Controled wildlands are permit only access. Not a trace wilderness is just that, no human can EVER go there. I have been in every state in the lower 48 and parts of Canada. Why is New York, Oregon, Virgina pointing fingers at Utah? Have you even been here? I have been where you live, I have seen the mess your cities are.

county mom
Monroe, UT

New York, you are so wrong about the land. The land was the Utes, Piautes, Goshutes, Hopis, Havsupi, Navajo and a few others it belonged to them. There are tribes among us now. They had Utah first. My family had a large cattle ranch, with the Piautes before the turn of the 20th century, that land was taken when the government decided that it was to much for one family. The Piautes were thrown off their land as was my family. Claimed land was confiscated for taxes demanded that were to much for dirt poor people to pay. The entire town of Kimberly Utah was a mining town the government decided was Forest Land. Some of the land that is still privately own is now being cut off by road closures.

Redrider07
Kearns,UT, UT

Thank you county mom, When I was a truck driver. We called East of the Mississippi, the dirty side. Like you I would expect people to look to there own backyard before commenting on mine. The Sierra club in California gives the SUWA almost $2.0 million a year to work on Utah projects (read: wilderness areas).I don't know for sure how much "Take back Utah" gets in donations but have heard it is less than $20,000. The Sierra Club should give the money to the state of California for there welfare system. It would be nice if they would take the Old Broads (there name for themselves,not mine)down in Blanding, and pay for there move back to California. TKS

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