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Published: Monday, Aug. 15 2011 10:38 a.m. MDT

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Johnny Triumph
American Fork, UT

Depressing that the PAC10 wanted to expand and was 'stuck' with mid-tier schools like Utah and Colorado. No wonder they still want to expand...they understand that their future is just as cloudy as the BIG12's...

Pac12Utes
Up on the Hill, UT

@Johnny Triumph

sour grapes are never good, no matter how you eat them. spit them out and move on with life bro.

NightOwlAmerica
SALEM, OR

Nope Johnny Triumph.
What schools have left the Pac 12? None.

motorbike
Cottonwood Heights, UT

Johnny Triumph -

Regarding - "Depressing that the PAC10 wanted to expand and was 'stuck' with mid-tier schools like Utah and Colorado. No wonder they still want to expand...they understand that their future is just as cloudy as the BIG12's."

With all Larry Scott has accomplished for the Pac-12 in the past year did you seriously expect anyone to read that comment and think yeah, that guy really knows what he's talking about?

carabaoU
Moab, UT

My prediction is that once A&M leaves the BIG12, OU/OSU join PACxx, and Texas will announce independence. No conference is willing to allow Texas their own network without equal revenue sharing. The question then becomes which other two teams will join to make the PAC16?

RSLJAZZBYUUTAH
Syracuse, UT

No one has left the pac 12 because nobody wants them.

Portland Trail Blazers
Sandy, UT

I think if the Pac 12 were to expand, they should seriosuly look at Hawaii, San Diego State, Fresno State, Air Force and maybe even BYU.

NightOwlAmerica
SALEM, OR

RSLJAZZBYUUTAH said:

"No one has left the pac 12 because nobody wants them."

Can you give one example of a Pac 12 school wanting to leave and being rejected by another conference? You won't find it.

Its more proper to say that nobody wants BYU. The past four decades prove it.

9er4life
Provo, UT

Yep, 4 super conferences will happen sooner than later. Even KWhit mentioned that in a article over the weekend in the sltrib. I love how the tds fans are downplaying everything.

@RSLjazz,
You implying no BCS conferences would want Oregon or USC? Or where you MUST be referring to the tds. Never a BCS invite...forever mid-major!

che loco
Springville, UT

The only way the Pac expands is if they can any combo of Texas/Okla/Okla State. If they get Texas they have to give up the Longhorn network or share their revenues from it. I don't see it happening with Texas, but it's a possibility with the Ok schools.

Moderate
Salt Lake City, UT

"Depressing that the PAC10 wanted to expand and was 'stuck' with mid-tier schools like Utah and Colorado."

What hurts more, Johnny Triumph? That BYU wasn't considered when the PAC settled on mid-tier teams? Or that BYU won't be considered when the PAC goes to 16?

Looks to me like the decision was based on the modern resume.
2 BCS games - Utah
1 BCS game - Colorado
0 BCS games - BYU, but more than happy to take the BCS money 4 times.

motorbike
Cottonwood Heights, UT

RSLJAZZBYUUTAH -

"No one has left the pac 12 because nobody wants them."

Yet another super knowledge-filled comment by a BYU fan. I'll bet you had everyone thinking, yeah, no one wants USC. No one wants Nike U - I mean Oregon. Who would want Stanford linked in conversations with them? Thank you so much for your insightful comment, it really made me think.

motorbike
Cottonwood Heights, UT

Portland Trail Blazers -

Regarding: "I think if the Pac 12 were to expand, they should seriosuly look at Hawaii, San Diego State, Fresno State, Air Force and maybe even BYU."

I wish the same. I'd love to see the Pac-XX add all those with exception of either AFA or Fresno.

The reason it will never happen is because of the almighty TV dollar. No need for the San Diego Market when you have So Cal covered. No need for AFA when you have Colorado covered.

Conference officials would tell us the same about the SLC market in regards to not needing BYU which is probably true (because BYU fans will tune into Utah games vs Pac-12 teams - we all know they will.) However the argument there is BYU does pretty well nationally because of the LDS church, that would be the best argument of that entire group of schools.

But again and unfortunately, it won't happen for that list of schools. Maybe BYU one day. Here's a Ute fan that would welcome it, I hate seeing the rivalry split by conference expansion.

gchris
rock springs, wy

motorbike: You're right. BYU fans will tune in to watch Utah games. I'm a college football junky and will watch any game, but I must admit, my two favorite teams are BYU and anybody playing Utah.

1984 for life
Salt Lake City, UT

RSLJAZZBYUUTAH | 12:46 p.m. Aug. 15, 2011
Syracuse, UT

Come on now soccermom.

MUSSing with U
Baltimore, MD

When the four super conferences are created, they'll take the cream of the crop of the current conferences and independents, and jettison the flotsom.

Programs like Indiana, Baylor, Iowa State, Washington State, Utah, and Colorado will be left on the outside looking in.

phoenix
Gilbert, AZ

There's no reason for the new super conferences to be stuck with the dead weight. Just start one new major conference and divide it into four divisions:

East, Southeast, Midwest, and West

Then, only invite programs that have been proven that they're an elite program by being a perennial Top 25 team for at least the last 30 years.

motorbike
Cottonwood Heights, UT

gchris -

You said: "motorbike: You're right. BYU fans will tune in to watch Utah games. I'm a college football junky and will watch any game, but I must admit, my two favorite teams are BYU and anybody playing Utah."

Touche my friend. I feel the same as you with the teams reversed. Nothing wrong with that in my book. That's exactly why I wish BYU was actually in the Pac-whatever. I wish the game would have more riding on it.

ClassyUte
SOUTH JORDAN, UT

Phoenix

"Then, only invite programs that have been proven that they're an elite program by being a perennial Top 25 team for at least the last 30 years."

...Is this the only way you can think of that would make the BCS include BYU but exclude Utah? Ha ha. You are really trying hard to hide the fact that Utah has has found much more success on the national level recently than BYU has. Good luck with that buddy. BYU is nothing more than a jealous has-been.

CG
Orem, UT

ClassyUte

"Utah has has found much more success on the national level recently than BYU"

Top 15 Finishes in the Last Five Years
BYU - 3
Utah - 1

"BYU is nothing more than a jealous has-been."

AP Top 25 Finishes in the Last Five Years
BYU - 4
Utah - 2

BYU has almost as many AP Top 25 Finishes in the LAST FIVE YEARS(4), as Utah has in its ENTIRE HISTORY(5)!

Kyle has lost to every bottom dweller in the MWC at least once.

Bronco is undefeated against Wyoming, Colorado State, New Mexico, and UNLV.

Utah has never won a national championship, had a Heisman Trophy winner, had a national individual award winner, or had a single player inducted into the college football hall of fame.

In other words, except for a couple of BCS wins, Utah's football history is bereft of any significant accomplishments on a national level.

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